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dis astranagant
Dec 14, 2006

I don't remember any limb damage in Kengo but the blood is entirely restricted to the occasional tournament match, as all other fights are with wooden swords. You have to parry enemy attacks just right in order to learn them, which is neat for a while but there's a lot of attacks that the ai doesn't like using and has the the weirdest timing when they do use them. The combat gets stale fast once you figure out a couple good combos, as it's not hard to find one the ai won't block very often that instakills most anyone.

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SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

This thread is not archived only because the archive is busted. Shame, too. It made me add a bunch of cheap used games to a long wishlist.

Don't see much about Shinobido: Way of the Ninja. Japan and PAL only.
Non-linear ninja stealth action from the makers of PS1 Tenchu and the publisher of Way of the Samurai.

Things you can do:
- Die falling into a well.
- Pick any of the three rival lords and secretly help them to undermine their opponents. Or switch sides on a daily basis.
- Kill, steal, cut off money and food supply of the lords.
- Collect mushrooms and alchemize brews that explode or cause amnesia.
- Throw sushi laced with explosives onto the patrol routes of hungry guards.
- Defend your shack in the forest against eagerly adapting AI by using traps and a 3d terrain editor.
- Send out explosive wind-up ducks.
- Pick a fight with a wild bear.
- Kidnap people in New Game Plus to use them as playable characters with different stats. I believe, that includes power armour ninjas with flamethrowers.
- Use the map/mission editor and export your stuff to the PSP Shinobido game.

Now, what I was actually wanted is ask is whether any of the Koei PS2 Classics on PSN have the insane customization and unlockables of Warship Gunner 2? Regardless of genre. Can you go crazy in PTO IV? How silly and overpowered can your army grow in Kessen 2/3?

By the way Seek and Destroy in the EU PSN Classics section (when it had a classics section) is something special in that regard. You fight your way through a war in a literal world of tanks, as in every character is a tank. You make money in battles to unlock more tank bodies from ultralight poo poo to heavy and slow turtles. Then you count your cash in the store picking between sticking a chainsaw onto your cannon or installing a launcher that fires heavy bouncing barrels that temporarily flatten any vehicle they hit.

Saoshyant
Oct 26, 2010

:hmmorks: :orks:


VG-Robot posted:

Heroes of Might and Magic: Quest for the Dragonbone Staff.

It is actually a remake of Kings Bounty, the game that inspired Heroes of Might and Magic! It is a very strange, simplified strategy game, but really interesting for fans of old-rear end PC games.

Oh, I remember this one. People used to say to go play Kessen instead of this because it was garbage. Can't imagine a King's Bounty game being fun on a console, anyway.

Speaking of Kessen, the third one is the best version of it. No idea how rare it is these days, though.

Not on the underrated list because it would make no sense, but I'm wondering if the best PS2 Ace Combat (if not in general) was 5. A correct assumption?

WraithMind
Jan 26, 2011
I think that's the general consensus, 4 and Zero are amazing games too though.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008
They all have the same basic gameplay so if you like one you'll probably like them all.

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

I've found Zero to offer the best combination of the "kill them all" maps of 4 and the tightly scripted runs of 5.

Saoshyant posted:

Speaking of Kessen, the third one is the best version of it. No idea how rare it is these days, though.
$10 if you have a PS3 and a US PSN account. The download size is huge, though. The store reports it at 8GB.
Does Kessen II have anything that 3 doesn't? Besides the setting.

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



Yeah, Zero is the best Ace Combat game, for PS2 or otherwise. I hated the way plane unlocks worked in AC5, and the Ace style stuff in Zero added a lot of replay value.

4 was also cool for the time, but it had the worst mission in the whole series, and the sheer increase in how many planes there were in 5 and Zero makes it hard to go back to 4.

Mr E
Sep 18, 2007

My Zero disk is too scratched to play and even though I ripped the ISO even with the scratches to my computer it's not currently emulatable on PCSX2 and I don't want to hook up my PS2 and rip it to its HDD. :saddowns:

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

Death before dishonor?
Your terms are accepted.


peeNamaste posted:

So one of my friends and I remembered the name of a game we've been trying to remember for a few months, and it's Kengo: Master of Bushido. I ordered it but it's not here yet. Has anyone else played it?



It's a samurai combat game, with lots of blood and limb damage if I remember correctly. We played it a lot when we were younger but I'm worried that it won't live up to how we remember. There was a similar incident with Chaos Legion. We remembered that game being awesome, ordered it, and it wasn't.

I don't have the PS2 version of this, but the Xbox version was nothing like the Bushido Blade games that preceeded it. Bushido Blade was much faster and more lethal, Kengo was more of a fighting game. You had to learn a bunch of specific attacks (and unlock them, and do training minigames and other such bullshit).

It was a disappointment. That said, pick up the PS1 Bushido Blade games, they run just fine on the PS2 and are incredible fun.

Celery Face
Feb 18, 2012
Someone mentioned Everblue 2 a while back and I'm totally with them that it rules. I played it a lot when I was 9 and 10 years old. Traded it in when I was 11 but now I've ordered it online and waiting for it to ship because I miss it. It's made by the same company who made the Endless Ocean games for the Wii and while Everblue 2 isn't as good as they are, it's still a fun, interesting game. You play as a diver who gets washed ashore on an island full of weirdos. There's the ocean and a cruise ship, an airplane and lots of other things to explore. Salvaging is a huge part of the game too. The land scenes have pretty outdated graphics even for 2003 but the underwater parts look great. Unlike Endless Ocean, you can't move up and down, you just stay at the bottom of the ocean and everything, aside from certain landmarks, pops up randomly. You can also die, fish are cataloged by taking pictures of them and there's no music aside from the ominous theme that plays whenever a shark is near.

If you liked the really unsettling parts of Endless Ocean, don't worry, those have got nothing on Everblue 2. It's easily the scariest game I've ever played. The atmosphere made me so drat tense at times. As someone mentioned earlier, this game is really bad if you're claustrophobic. Often, I would get lost in something (usually the submarine) and then I'd be moving around the tight corridors trying to find the exit as the diver's breathing and heartbeat got faster.

You can also pick up a car from the parking lot section of a sunken cruise ship. It's kind of a weird game.

dis astranagant
Dec 14, 2006

Zaodai posted:

I don't have the PS2 version of this, but the Xbox version was nothing like the Bushido Blade games that preceeded it. Bushido Blade was much faster and more lethal, Kengo was more of a fighting game. You had to learn a bunch of specific attacks (and unlock them, and do training minigames and other such bullshit).

It was a disappointment. That said, pick up the PS1 Bushido Blade games, they run just fine on the PS2 and are incredible fun.

Kengo is insanely lethal once you get some basic moves figured out and some training done. There's so many instakill combos.

Clever Spambot
Sep 16, 2009

You've lost that lovin' feeling,
Now it's gone...gone...
GONE....
Kengo does not play like bushido blade, but it is a pretty fun game.

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

Celery Face posted:

Someone mentioned Everblue 2 a while back and I'm totally with them that it rules.
It's a fun little game indeed, although the timers in my save file show I spent only a third of the total game time underwater. The rest is talking to snotty kids, pawning off poisons and fencing the same painting over and over again.
Alas, you can't go diving in a hooded tux as you could in Everblue 1.

I've seen Steambot Chronicles mentioned, and it can be an awesome ride, if you can bear a game that has no focus whatsoever. You get dialogue options between nice and rear end in a top hat, but the plot only really branches at a couple of points. You get robot customization, but there's very little to do for the majority of the game, outside of slapping on a new arm. You can exploit the stock market but the pay off is minimal. There are randomised dungeons but they are piss easy. You can try yourself in bus driving or commodity trade but the travel speed is very low, and mining for the museum pays better.

The most developed part is the dinosaur skeleton assembly, and that's because you can put them together wrong. Skull-on-the-pelvis wrong :magical:

SelenicMartian fucked around with this message at 08:22 on Oct 13, 2014

Kazvall
Mar 20, 2009

Someone want to try and play some Culdcept? Hit me up on steam, same username.

amanasleep
May 21, 2008

SelenicMartian posted:

This thread is not archived only because the archive is busted. Shame, too. It made me add a bunch of cheap used games to a long wishlist.

Don't see much about Shinobido: Way of the Ninja. Japan and PAL only.
Non-linear ninja stealth action from the makers of PS1 Tenchu and the publisher of Way of the Samurai.

Things you can do:
- Die falling into a well.
- Pick any of the three rival lords and secretly help them to undermine their opponents. Or switch sides on a daily basis.
- Kill, steal, cut off money and food supply of the lords.
- Collect mushrooms and alchemize brews that explode or cause amnesia.
- Throw sushi laced with explosives onto the patrol routes of hungry guards.
- Defend your shack in the forest against eagerly adapting AI by using traps and a 3d terrain editor.
- Send out explosive wind-up ducks.
- Pick a fight with a wild bear.
- Kidnap people in New Game Plus to use them as playable characters with different stats. I believe, that includes power armour ninjas with flamethrowers.
- Use the map/mission editor and export your stuff to the PSP Shinobido game.

Now, what I was actually wanted is ask is whether any of the Koei PS2 Classics on PSN have the insane customization and unlockables of Warship Gunner 2? Regardless of genre. Can you go crazy in PTO IV? How silly and overpowered can your army grow in Kessen 2/3?

By the way Seek and Destroy in the EU PSN Classics section (when it had a classics section) is something special in that regard. You fight your way through a war in a literal world of tanks, as in every character is a tank. You make money in battles to unlock more tank bodies from ultralight poo poo to heavy and slow turtles. Then you count your cash in the store picking between sticking a chainsaw onto your cannon or installing a launcher that fires heavy bouncing barrels that temporarily flatten any vehicle they hit.

drat, I would love to play this. PS1 Tenchu is possibly my favorite game.

Saoshyant
Oct 26, 2010

:hmmorks: :orks:


Man, what I remember from Shinobido was pretty awful. PSX-like graphics in certain places and a game unfun to the extreme. I have no idea if the sequel on the Vita turned out to be good, but I do suggest keeping away from the PS2 version.

Celery Face
Feb 18, 2012
Thanks to this thread, I ordered a bunch of PS2 games (Drakan, Primal, Okage Shadow King, Dark Cloud 2, Summoner 2, Magic Pengel: The Quest For Colour, Fatal Frame 2, Dragon Quest VII and Echo Night Beyond). Decided to start with Drakan and wow, this game is way more fun than I expected. I wish I had known about it when I was going through a dragon phase in elementary school. Only complaint I have is that the enemy AI is pretty bad but everything else about it is just awesome. If you haven't played it, you really should. It's only around :10bux:

I don't think Magic Pengel: The Quest For Colour has been mentioned here yet. It's an RPG where you can draw anything and it'll turn 3D and fight for you. Studio Ghibli also had some involvement in the development. The game might be a bit too kiddy for a lot of people, the battle system is basically rock-paper-scissors and if you're like me and suck at drawing, it will take a while to figure things out. The novelty of drawing a big multicoloured (the colours you use determine the creation's stats) penis and having it basically be your Pokemon is pretty cool though.

rodney mullenkamp
Nov 5, 2010

Graffiti Kingdom is the sequel to Magic Pengel, it's a 3D platformer and is a bit more flexible with what you can draw.

Ostentatious
Sep 29, 2010

Resident Evil: Outbreak isn't what a lot of people would consider a great game but some of my first online games as a kid were spent playing that with friends.

It was great to me, drat it.

blue font
Feb 28, 2011

Zeether posted:

Did anyone bring up Culdcept? I've heard praise for it and it's like some weird mixture of Monopoly and Magic: The Gathering.



Culcept is amazing if you can get a buddy or two to play it with. It's a lot of fun, though I recommend playing on smaller maps so the games don't drag on for eternity. Also, I'd recommend jumping in blind and coming up with decks and strategies of your own, rather than looking online. Just make sure other players aren't prone to gettin' mad at games, because some of the cards can really gently caress someone over.

It has really great art, really great music, and hilarious voice acting. It takes everything great about Monopoly and adds another layer of strategy to it. I really recommend it.

There's an XBOX Live Arcade version, too, but I only tried the demo. To me, the PS2 seemed like a more complete package, and the card artwork was better on PS2 as well.

Celery Face
Feb 18, 2012
Finally got to play Everblue 2 for the first time since I was 11. Glad to see that this game is just as awesome as I remembered.

King Kong is another game that doesn't get enough attention. Best movie game I've played after Spider Man 2. You play as Adrien Brody's character from the 2005 movie and of course, as Kong. The actors all reprise their roles here and they do a great job. When you're Adrien Brody, you chuck spears at giant bugs, bats and dinosaurs. There are guns but ammo is pretty limited and you can only carry one at a time. When you're Kong, you pummel the poo poo out of anything in your path while keeping Ann safe. The sound effects are also fantastic and the music and atmosphere is great too. Only complaints I have is that the game is rather short and the New York section at the end is terrible.

Celery Face fucked around with this message at 00:49 on Dec 11, 2014

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

Celery Face posted:

Thanks to this thread, I ordered a bunch of PS2 games
Same here. If only getting poo poo from the UK to Russia didn't take at least a month...

Bloody hell, Chaos Legion can be brutal. Spent two hours on stage 5, didn't beat it, had to come back with half the exp. At least you get that on Normal. loving boss tentacles.
Is it true that the Japanese versions are easier?

SelenicMartian fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Jan 13, 2015

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:
Shinobido's bad graphics were justifiable on the Japanese version at least because it had a full scenario/level creation kit and expansion disks and stuff so there was a ton of content to make up for it.

joshtothemaxx
Nov 17, 2008

I will have a whole army of zombies! A zombie Marine Corps, a zombie Navy Corps, zombie Space Cadets...
Want to chime in and give props to the game Champions of Norrath, a sequel to Baldurs Gate Dark Alliance. I'm guessing the EQ branding probably didn't help much, but it's a fun little unpolished gem.

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Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house
I love going to pawn shops since there's usually a loving ton of PS2 era games that you can pick up for cheap and there may be a few hidden gems in there sometimes. The one nearest to me has MGS2 and MGS3 (the regular editions, not the special re-issues, sadly)

I sort of lament the death of the PS2 since it was probably the last console where you can pick up 'hidden gems'. I guess licensing restrictions and cost of developing stuff for consoles later on meant that you don't really get the influx of weird and wonderful games that you got on the PS2 where pretty much anyone could make a game and publish it somewhere.

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