|
Lum_ posted:Just popping in to remind everyone that despite everyone saying it's "launching", the only thing that is launching is a promise we won't wipe your characters. The game isn't yet content complete at all and will not be for some time. If you want to hop on and mess around with the done parts such as the sandbox aspects, community, and building a trailer park, that's great! But calling it "launched" makes me drink heavily, and my liver would appreciate you not doing that. Thanks, you're swell! Yes. By avoiding the word "launch", you're technically able to stay in pre-alpha forever. Even though this is the actual final character advancement. Lum, you're better than this.
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2016 06:07
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 24, 2024 18:19 |
|
|
Boo Boo Glass posted:Short (and misleading) answer? No, there's no release date yet. Lum, nobody tried to claim that this game is done (i.e. "Launched"). You and yours have made it clear that it will never be launched. Feeling the need to hide behind that nuance is what I mock: it's apparently launched enough for final character wipe, but not launched enough to critique.
|
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2016 06:15
|
|
|
I hope the gay devs are ok
|
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2016 09:11
|
|
|
Lum_ posted:Just popping in to remind everyone that despite everyone saying it's "launching", the only thing that is launching is a promise we won't wipe your characters. The game isn't yet content complete at all and will not be for some time. If you want to hop on and mess around with the done parts such as the sandbox aspects, community, and building a trailer park, that's great! But calling it "launched" makes me drink heavily, and my liver would appreciate you not doing that. Thanks, you're swell! 
|
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2016 09:26
|
|
|
I don't mind soft launches with persistent progression a year or so before the actual launch to get people to actually test the game, but there are a couple problems with this game that make me feel like even now was too early for a soft launch. There's a ton of content but it's very unpolished and nothing is explained well, even for a cRPG with very little "hand holding by design". I mean, it has only been 3 years so waiting 6 months or a year wouldn't be too much of a problem.
|
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2016 10:10
|
|
|
Thursday Next posted:Yes. By avoiding the word "launch", you're technically able to stay in pre-alpha forever. Even though this is the actual final character advancement. Wait, this is pre-alpha? I thought it was alpha.  Node, the same thing happened to me when i tried to first went Moria.The game crashed and i got confused thinking this was an area i wasn't expose to goto (cause the whole screen going dark thing.)Also: maybe it's just me but the loading screens take a while to load. After figuring out how to initiate combat, I can honestly say the combat is pretty much terrible. for the first few swings im standing in front of the enemy npc then when i hit my thrust im standing 2 feet behind him and still swinging. The whole process is awkward and boring. Crafting looks interesting. I'd like a house so i can make tables etc to put it in, but i really don't have an extra $575 dollars laying around to buy one. Since this game will most likely by pre-alpha for quite some time, maybe it'll get better.
|
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2016 11:46
|
|
|
iminers posted:Wait, this is pre-alpha? I thought it was alpha. It didn't crash the third time. Now, I'm not sure what to do. I like the idea of a social and crafting MMOG (although combat definitely needs improving by a lot, and by a lot I mean A LOT) but I am at a loss as to what to do right now. Do I stay at Resolute? Do I go to Brittany? Where does everyone hang out? What do people do?? As for the launch/not a launch business, I do agree that this game is not in launch condition and isn't advertising itself as so. However, when you have a pseudo MMOG and have a "final wipe" a LOT of people will understandably read that as a game that is ready. Why wouldn't you wipe the characters when you reach version 1.0? When the game is actually launched, there will be a whole bunch of powerful players, instead of everyone starting at a blank slate (bonus points if you get that reference.) Maybe that isn't a bad thing? I'll keep trying this game bit by bit. I'll give the new player's guide a good read.
|
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2016 12:01
|
|
|
I'm positively surprised by the current state of the game. Hopefully they have implemented some kind of anti-cheat system. 
|
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2016 16:31
|
|
|
This Game owns. Went into the Tower of the Shuttered Eye with some friends, killed all the undead on the tower + boss at the top of the tower. Found locked door, had to check all the dead skeletons for key, read several books in the bookcases of the tower and several notes. On one of the notes it says the location of the key. The key is located behind the statue to the right as you enter the tower, there will be a loose stone with a different texture than the rest of the stone, you press it and it gives you the key to the room upstairs. The treasure room contains armor, weapons and 5 chests with gold. Among other loose treasure I found a Custom Book. If you store a txt file at c:\Users\<your account>\AppData\Roaming\Portalarium\Shroud of the Avatar\Custom Books you can import the content into a book. The Book can be sold on the auction house. I sold one for 15,000g.  This game just paid itself.
|
|
#
?
Jul 30, 2016 23:57
|
|
|
Hahaha. You could write custom books in UO too. I always wrote something stupid and left them in random places in town in hopes that, by some random chance, someone read it and I made their day better or worse.
|
|
#
?
Jul 31, 2016 05:27
|
|
|
Once I get a house, I have a printing press where I can produce books for free http://sotawiki.net/sota/Magic_Printing_Press
|
|
#
?
Jul 31, 2016 05:31
|
|
|
Scam of the Day... Run Tower of the Shuttered Eye with pubbies and while they are busy fighting the leech go ahead and take the 6 chests on top...
|
|
#
?
Jul 31, 2016 09:22
|
|
|
Tempus Thales posted:Scam of the Day... Where is all this happening? What town/city/metropolis should I go to?
|
|
#
?
Jul 31, 2016 11:33
|
|
|
Node posted:Where is all this happening? What town/city/metropolis should I go to? I'd like to know this as well. Right now im in Highvale getting my skills up.
|
|
#
?
Jul 31, 2016 12:14
|
|
|
Come to Ardoris. Everyone is here. Add me (Alexander DeLarge) and Tempus Thales. We're going to do some of the tower runs today. Join the SA discord. Ideally I'd like to get the text chat and VOIP channels going around the clock. Once my land selection begins, we'll hopefully be past the gates and into mainland near Britanny. http://discordgoons.com Alexander DeLarge fucked around with this message at 16:25 on Jul 31, 2016 |
|
#
?
Jul 31, 2016 16:20
|
|
|
I think it owns to see goons giving this game another shot in the non launched alpha release, but isn't Tempus Thalus the guy who robbed the goon bank of that other 'Ultima inspired' MMO that is now dead?
|
|
#
?
Jul 31, 2016 18:02
|
|
|
From what I remember he picked a fight with some pubbies, the leader freaked out and had a meltdown but at that point nobody was playing anymore anyway. Unless you still mean another game but either way it was dumb drama.
|
|
#
?
Jul 31, 2016 18:57
|
|
|
Node posted:Where is all this happening? What town/city/metropolis should I go to? its near Soltown
|
|
#
?
Jul 31, 2016 21:40
|
|
|
extra stout posted:I think it owns to see goons giving this game another shot in the non launched alpha release, but isn't Tempus Thalus the guy who robbed the goon bank of that other 'Ultima inspired' MMO that is now dead? Game was dead at that point and it was a poor attempt to reboot the franchise. 
|
|
#
?
Jul 31, 2016 21:47
|
|
|
The Soltown area is a good starting point, it really dosent take too long to get round the map anyway apart from having to do crazy death runs through the midzone passes
|
|
#
?
Jul 31, 2016 21:47
|
|
|
Sourpuss posted:The Soltown area is a good starting point, it really dosent take too long to get round the map anyway apart from having to do crazy death runs through the midzone passes I don't understand why they have multiple starting places. Soltown is ideal based on my experience with the releases.
|
|
#
?
Jul 31, 2016 21:49
|
|
|
Sourpuss posted:The Soltown area is a good starting point, it really dosent take too long to get round the map anyway apart from having to do crazy death runs through the midzone passes Well the place I'm talking about, Tower of the Shuttered Eye we need a group to run it and farm it, lots of gold and XP in that run... it resets 15 minutes after rinse and repeat.
|
|
#
?
Jul 31, 2016 21:50
|
|
|
Tempus Thales posted:Game was dead at that point and it was a poor attempt to reboot the franchise. This post feels like you're basically clarifying that you'll absolutely be robbing this guild bank too
|
|
#
?
Jul 31, 2016 22:27
|
|
|
extra stout posted:This post feels like you're basically clarifying that you'll absolutely be robbing this guild bank too ok
|
|
#
?
Jul 31, 2016 23:33
|
|
|
Thursday Next posted:Yes. By avoiding the word "launch", you're technically able to stay in pre-alpha forever. Even though this is the actual final character advancement. Apparently you didn't get the memo. No games are finished anymore and everything gets patched and updated eternally. Thursday Next posted:Lum, nobody tried to claim that this game is done (i.e. "Launched"). You and yours have made it clear that it will never be launched. Feeling the need to hide behind that nuance is what I mock: it's apparently launched enough for final character wipe, but not launched enough to critique. "Nobody is trying to claim this game is launched except me while I try to make a comparison!" You might be trying to make a good point but I'm not sure you wrote it like that.
|
|
#
?
Jul 31, 2016 23:58
|
|
|
DancingShade posted:Apparently you didn't get the memo. No games are finished anymore and everything gets patched and updated eternally. With Early Access games, they are only in that state so long as the dev is hitting marketing and financial goals. Once that stops their game suddenly goes full release on Steam.
|
|
#
?
Aug 1, 2016 00:34
|
|
|
I said come in! posted:With Early Access games, they are only in that state so long as the dev is hitting marketing and financial goals. Once that stops their game suddenly goes full release on Steam. Testify! You have spoken in the tongues of angels and we know them to be true. (although on some occasions games finally go full release with more features, hello Starbound)
|
|
#
?
Aug 1, 2016 02:31
|
|
|
DancingShade posted:Testify! You have spoken in the tongues of angels and we know them to be true. Why are you angry about sota?
|
|
#
?
Aug 1, 2016 04:44
|
|
|
So, apparently at a point where I had more money than sense, I backed this as a "2nd Responder." I see that it has just final wiped. The OP looks like it hasn't been updated or anything, and the last couple of pages of the thread apparently have drama...? What's the deal? Is there a Goon guild yet? I just started downloading the game over Steam. Can someone point me to a good starter guide? Maybe start up a new thread with useful info in the OP?
|
|
#
?
Aug 1, 2016 05:37
|
|
|
Thanatosian posted:So, apparently at a point where I had more money than sense, I backed this as a "2nd Responder." No.
|
|
#
?
Aug 1, 2016 05:52
|
|
|
iminers posted:Why are you angry about sota? Look to the left of this post. Thanatosian posted:So, apparently at a point where I had more money than sense, I backed this as a "2nd Responder." At this point I think goons are pretty burned out on the idea of goon guilds. We know exactly how they all end up. Most recently: the fantastic success story that was Black Desert. DancingShade fucked around with this message at 06:19 on Aug 1, 2016 |
|
#
?
Aug 1, 2016 06:16
|
|
|
DancingShade posted:Most recently: the fantastic success story that was Black Desert. What did happen, anyway? The PGS thread is nothing but people posting guest codes while the MMO thread just says "they all died".
|
|
#
?
Aug 1, 2016 06:53
|
|
|
Good Dumplings posted:What did happen, anyway? The PGS thread is nothing but people posting guest codes while the MMO thread just says "they all died". The short, short version is that a goon rush these days draws less and less people and post launch fortnight player retention is always in the toilet. So after a couple weeks/month you only have the most hardcore  personalities which always includes a certain degree of toxicity and friction. The more sane ones jump ship or leave altogether because they see the writing on the wall and/or know people by name/voice over mumble anyway.In BDO this was exacerbated by endgame content requiring large group participation, co-ordination and good leadership. Goons have none of these things. In the absence of any success on the horizon (especially with node wars coming soon, at the time) people quit to join larger and more co-ordinated pubbie guilds. Basically off the radar altogether and trying to carry along as many goons as possible. This would repeat for multiple guilds and people drop out altogether along the way. Your typical failure spiral. In every MMO goon rush we have the same specific core group of goons turning up nearly every time. One half loathes the other half and fun ensues. TL;DR goon rush guilds are basically an unmoderated D&D thread about politics and abortion. Edit - spelling is hard. DancingShade fucked around with this message at 08:32 on Aug 1, 2016 |
|
#
?
Aug 1, 2016 07:19
|
|
|
My time with the WoW goons during Wrath of the Lich King was good and fun, no complaints.
|
|
#
?
Aug 1, 2016 07:21
|
|
|
I've had good times with Starfleet Dental in STO and Goon Squad in GW2. I think it helps that there is absolutely gently caress-nothing at stake in either game, and that you can't swing a guy playing a catgirl without hitting a griefable pubbie.
|
|
#
?
Aug 1, 2016 16:16
|
|
|
The thing with SA is that each sub-forum attracts a different kind of person, so if you're not a "gamer" and just shitpost in D&D or GBS, joining a goon guild may be not the experience you expected in the first place. Like, half the people I met in goon guilds are the kind of posters who SA used to ridicule in Weekend Web and other threads. Also the smug "we're better than the pubbies" attitude is weird and doesn't make you less broken.
|
|
#
?
Aug 1, 2016 18:02
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 24, 2024 18:19 |
|
|
Closing this thread so a brand new wonderful one can spring up in its place thanks to lovely dedicated forum users!
|
|
#
?
Aug 2, 2016 11:50
|
|
