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Argue posted:This is Tribulation with Gary Busey and it was the first time I learned about the Rapture; I was still Catholicish at the time and actually thought the movie was some ghastly caricature of Christianity made by people who weren't Christian, since early on in the movie a character says "it's called The Rapture and every Christian in the world believes it". By his standards of who's a true Christian and who's papist reptilian Devil-worshiper, they do.
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cptn_dr posted:Isn't one part of fundamentalist dogma that nobody knows when the rapture will arrive? So the old lady would have had to spend her life with a note pinned to her chest, just in case, so that whenever the Rapture arrived she would be prepared. The Rapture goes by time zones, so she could have seen reports on TV of all the people in Europe spontaneously combusting and been forewarned.
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DStecks posted:Is it this? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2188907/ Lol, under "did you know" "The film takes place in 2030." that's it I love all these movies about the evil atheist government persecuting Christians considering how many government positions and states have laws which pretty much exclude atheists from holding office. SocketWrench fucked around with this message at 16:21 on Jan 23, 2017 |
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This isn't completely within the scope of the thread, but I just want to highlight the Trapped trilogy of Newgrounds games, which are very overtly Christian while still being relentlessly immoral. And I don't mean in the sense that the characters in God's Not Dead are behaving immorally if you don't accept their worldview, I mean that the games are about terrible people being nasty to each other, with rampant murder and revenge. The trilogy ends with the heroine locking the villain in a safe and throwing it in the ocean, not out of self-defense, but purely as an act of cold-blooded murder. Nonetheless, in the first game, a character mentions that he isn't a christian and this is foreshadowing that he's the eventual villain. It's just so demented, like, I can only imagine it's the kind of stuff you'd make if you were raised in a strongly Subculture Christian environment, but still really liked mainstream media and wanted to make some of your own.
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DStecks posted:This isn't completely within the scope of the thread, but I just want to highlight the Trapped trilogy of Newgrounds games, which are very overtly Christian while still being relentlessly immoral. Hahaha these games are loving bonkers and the Retsupurae of them is beautiful. (I'm on mobile, not sure if that's what you linked.)
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DStecks posted:This isn't completely within the scope of the thread, but I just want to highlight the Trapped trilogy of Newgrounds games, which are very overtly Christian while still being relentlessly immoral. It's really not. People i knew who didn't run screaming from secular things tended to be insanely averse to violence on a fundamental level that i couldn't begin appreciate as a later in life convert. It was actually more offputting than the sex aversion when you have people wanting to walk out of a tense scene with a gun in loving north central Texas
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:Hahaha these games are loving bonkers and the Retsupurae of them is beautiful. (I'm on mobile, not sure if that's what you linked.) It is.
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Feb 22, 2017 20:46
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basic hitler posted:It's really not. People i knew who didn't run screaming from secular things tended to be insanely averse to violence on a fundamental level that i couldn't begin appreciate as a later in life convert. It was actually more offputting than the sex aversion when you have people wanting to walk out of a tense scene with a gun in loving north central Texas You are going to have to rewrite some of that because I can barely parse it.
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Feb 22, 2017 23:32
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He's saying that the Newgrounds games DStecks linked aren't very representative of American Christianity because your average middle-class church goer has a strong aversion to violent media, even if they are otherwise fine with secular fiction.
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Feb 22, 2017 23:58
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Sorry there, samuel clemens is right in my experiences and i had a spiritual crisis that saw me stop and meet people from charity thrift shop churches in Dallas to WASP dens in west plano to weird freaky pentecostals that gave me a crisis of faith in North Carolina. Cool black Baptist churches in Texas and Mississippii. I still know lots of people and those who dont totally denounce non-Christian oriented media, are very much extremely sin averse and thats not just sexual portrayals but portrayals of acts of violence
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Feb 23, 2017 02:48
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and here I thought pantsuits were the devil
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Samuel Clemens posted:He's saying that the Newgrounds games DStecks linked aren't very representative of American Christianity because your average middle-class church goer has a strong aversion to violent media, even if they are otherwise fine with secular fiction. And I can't disagree because that's the point I was trying to make, that Trapped for some reason chooses to belong to a culture whose values it doesn't really buy into. I'm trying to put into words just why it's so weird. It's like, subculture Christian media exists because of certain values that subculture Christians want their media to have or not have, and Trapped has the additional signifiers that identify it as belonging to subculture Christianity, but it doesn't seem aware of the unstated values that are the actual reason why that media exists. To give a concrete example of what I'm trying to get at, in the Left Behind books, all of the main characters are adult converts to Christianity, because everyone who isn't has been raptured. Nonetheless, the two main characters have still lived nearly spotless lives, and not because the point is that they were good people who just weren't Christian, but because the idea of the protagonists having been morally compromised wouldn't be palatable to Left Behind's primary audience. They can't handle the notion of fiction not being morally instructive in the most simplistic ways (much like they can't handle the idea of the Bible not being morally instructive in the most simplistic ways), which is why they create media where they don't have to think about whether the characters' actions are good, they can simply Know that the hero is good and therefore everything he does is good. Trapped throws this, possibly the single most defining element of subculture Christian media, right out the window.
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