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Gravitee
Nov 20, 2003

I just put money in the Magic Fingers!
I wouldn't want to live in Houston either, lol.

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wilfredmerriweathr
Jul 11, 2005
Yeah you should be aware that the US is extremely diverse and you might fit in a lot more in some non-lovely part of the country. I am willing to bet you would like Montana.

But there is indeed a lot to dislike about the US, especially coming from Russia, and it looks like Siberia is a beautiful place to live (with insanely cheap internet!)

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
Yeah, with the U.S. Around 320 million people and as large as it is, it's very easy to hate one location and love another. It also helps that such an enormous portion of the continental US is easily inhabitable compared to other large countries with huge arctic or subarctic areas or deserts. Looking at China's population density map is pretty alarming compared to how much space is just empty.

Houston is pretty bad, climate wise. A humid, swampy area full of oil industry. Yuck.

utjkju
Feb 3, 2014

I told it: "leave" But To me answered: "rrrrrrrrrrrr".
Of course, I know that in the USA is a lot of states, at states have different climatic zones, laws can differ...
But immigration is not tourism. One thing - to arrive to the country for 2 weeks, another thing - to live in the country during 2-3 years or all life.
I very much appreciate financial independence: opportunity to live without the credits, to have pecuniary accumulations. I very much appreciate a freedom of choice. As it appeared, in the USA I have less freedom of choice, than in Russia. It concerns housing, schools, kindergartens, medicine etc.
Very important point - medicine. I don't accept system of medical care in the USA.
To me the life in the USA is not comfortably.

utjkju
Feb 3, 2014

I told it: "leave" But To me answered: "rrrrrrrrrrrr".

mlmp08 posted:

Houston is pretty bad, climate wise. A humid, swampy area full of oil industry. Yuck.

In the Tomsk region there is a part of Vasyugan Swamp. (one of the biggest swamps in the world.)))))))))))
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasyugan_Swamp

Vasyugan Swamp
(http://www.liveinternet.ru/community/geo_club/post117164026/)










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Lumius
Nov 24, 2004
Superior Awesome Sucks
I love the photos.

Dusty Baker 2
Jul 8, 2011

Keyboard Inghimasi

utjkju posted:

I have not visited in the USA. (2013)
But I have visited in the Czech Republic and Germany.(2014)
My husband has visited in the USA (Texas, Houston).
The husband works in the international company. The company provides training in the different countries. For example, company invite people from Russia, Finland, Germany and other countries, and conduct the training courses in the United Arab Emirates. There are training courses in Scotland, in the USA, in Germany, in Russia, etc.
There was a question of moving because of work to the USA, but we refused after husband's visit to Houston.
After a trip to the Czech Republic and Germany, we refused the offer on work in Germany.
At the moment we don't plan trips to the USA.

Hahaha, I don't blame you for not wanting to go back to Houston. I am sorry that it was your experience with the US, I hope you get a chance to visit again and see better parts of the country. :)

wilfredmerriweathr posted:

Yeah you should be aware that the US is extremely diverse and you might fit in a lot more in some non-lovely part of the country. I am willing to bet you would like Montana.

But there is indeed a lot to dislike about the US, especially coming from Russia, and it looks like Siberia is a beautiful place to live (with insanely cheap internet!)


^^ this, you would really like Montana.

Kidney Stone
Dec 28, 2008

The worst pain ever!

utjkju posted:

In the Tomsk region there is a part of Vasyugan Swamp. (one of the biggest swamps in the world.)))))))))))

Whoa! Very very nice pictures - love them :)

One thing, I'd love to do one day, is to go somewhere around Tomsk and do a bit of kayaking (if that's possible?).

Are there any kayaking clubs in the Tomsk region?

HoratioRash
Nov 20, 2012

I've a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore, Toto
Mind if I answer that? Clubs? Certainly, kayaking in tomsk though... not really? Altai is popular, so is Sayani. Kamchatka, some caucasus regions, Baikal lake, Karelia(My personal favourite) etc.

utjkju
Feb 3, 2014

I told it: "leave" But To me answered: "rrrrrrrrrrrr".

Kidney Stone posted:

Whoa! Very very nice pictures - love them :)

One thing, I'd love to do one day, is to go somewhere around Tomsk and do a bit of kayaking (if that's possible?).

Are there any kayaking clubs in the Tomsk region?

In Tomsk there are clubs which are engaged water activities (rafting).
My husband swam on (какой предлог тут будет правильным?) bidarka in the Tomsk region when was at the age of 14 years.
I swam in Kuznetsk Alatau on (?) a catamaran (at the age of 15 years), and the doctor, who worked in camp, swam on (?) a kayak.

bidarka



catamaran


kayak


(photo from Yandex)

utjkju fucked around with this message at 15:06 on Mar 26, 2015

utjkju
Feb 3, 2014

I told it: "leave" But To me answered: "rrrrrrrrrrrr".

HoratioRash posted:

Mind if I answer that? Clubs? Certainly, kayaking in tomsk though... not really? Altai is popular, so is Sayani. Kamchatka, some caucasus regions, Baikal lake, Karelia(My personal favourite) etc.

Karelia is very beautiful.)

Patrick Spens
Jul 21, 2006

"Every quarterback says they've got guts, But how many have actually seen 'em?"
Pillbug

utjkju posted:

In Tomsk there are clubs which are engaged water activities (rafting).
My husband swam on (какой предлог тут будет правильным?) bidarka in the Tomsk region when was at the age of 14 years.
I swam in Kuznetsk Alatau on (?) a catamaran (at the age of 15 years), and the doctor, who worked in camp, swam on (?) a kayak.


In English you would say "in" for smaller boats like kayak's or canoes, and "on" for larger boats like yachts or cruise ships. You can also use the nous as a verb. So you can say "I kayaked in Kuznetsk Alatu." Swimming is only for when you are in the water without any raft or boat.

utjkju
Feb 3, 2014

I told it: "leave" But To me answered: "rrrrrrrrrrrr".

Patrick Spens posted:

In English you would say "in" for smaller boats like kayak's or canoes, and "on" for larger boats like yachts or cruise ships. You can also use the nous as a verb. So you can say "I kayaked in Kuznetsk Alatu." Swimming is only for when you are in the water without any raft or boat.

Thanks
In what cases I can use the word "rafting"?

I kayaked in a catamaran in Kuznetskiy Alatu. (correctly?)

Is it rafting? (Kuznetskiy Alatu, Kyzyr river).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9m4MrrdM24U

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

utjkju posted:

Thanks
In what cases I can use the word "rafting"?

I kayaked in a catamaran in Kuznetskiy Alatu. (correctly?)

Is it rafting? (Kuznetskiy Alatu, Kyzyr river).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9m4MrrdM24U

"rafting" would be used to show you were riding on a raft. A raft is usually a fairly large, flat-bottomed boat either made of wood or inflatable generally holding four or more people at once. Often something like this:



Rafting is also used in a more general sense of just being on the river in some sort of boat. People will say they're going "white water rafting" and might actually use a raft, or catamarans or even canoes or kayaks.

Anticheese
Feb 13, 2008

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Thanks for an amazing thread, op. Its been a fascinating read, and the photos are all absolutely wonderful.

jyrka
Jan 21, 2005


Potato Count: 2 small potatoes

utjkju posted:

After a trip to the Czech Republic and Germany, we refused the offer on work in Germany.

Why did you refuse Germany?

utjkju
Feb 3, 2014

I told it: "leave" But To me answered: "rrrrrrrrrrrr".

jyrka posted:

Why did you refuse Germany?

The main reason - a balance of the income and expenses. The employer offered a salary more, than in Russia. The contract for 2 years.
We started considering offer, communicated with people who worked in Germany under the same contracts.
It appeared that expenses in Germany it is much more, than in Russia (later, during travel we saw this).
Despite a big salary it is impossible to make financial accumulation because of heavy expenses.
In Russia I have financial accumulation.
The system of medical care in Germany is much better, than in the USA. This is plus for Germany.

Still I very much love heat. For comfortable life I need +22 +23 degrees (air temperature) Celsius to the apartment. And in Germany very expensive heating. I don't want to live at +17 +18 degrees Celsius.)))

Besides, when price of oil fell, in Germany to engineers lowered a salary twice. In Russia the salary wasn't lowered.

utjkju
Feb 3, 2014

I told it: "leave" But To me answered: "rrrrrrrrrrrr".

Anticheese posted:

Thanks for an amazing thread, op. Its been a fascinating read, and the photos are all absolutely wonderful.

Thanks.)


Deteriorata posted:

"rafting" would be used to show you were riding on a raft. A raft is usually a fairly large, flat-bottomed boat either made of wood or inflatable generally holding four or more people at once. Often something like this:



Rafting is also used in a more general sense of just being on the river in some sort of boat. People will say they're going "white water rafting" and might actually use a raft, or catamarans or even canoes or kayaks.

Thanks.)

Mightypeon
Oct 10, 2013

Putin apologist- assume all uncited claims are from Russia Today or directly from FSB.

key phrases: Poor plucky little Russia, Spheres of influence, The West is Worse, they was asking for it.

utjkju posted:

The main reason - a balance of the income and expenses. The employer offered a salary more, than in Russia. The contract for 2 years.
We started considering offer, communicated with people who worked in Germany under the same contracts.
It appeared that expenses in Germany it is much more, than in Russia (later, during travel we saw this).
Despite a big salary it is impossible to make financial accumulation because of heavy expenses.
In Russia I have financial accumulation.
The system of medical care in Germany is much better, than in the USA. This is plus for Germany.

Still I very much love heat. For comfortable life I need +22 +23 degrees (air temperature) Celsius to the apartment. And in Germany very expensive heating. I don't want to live at +17 +18 degrees Celsius.)))

Besides, when price of oil fell, in Germany to engineers lowered a salary twice. In Russia the salary wasn't lowered.

Germany has some very major price fluctuation between different parts of it. The East, outside of Berlin, is cheap. Even in Berlin, I found some things to be less expensive then in Moscow. Far more expensive then in Cheljabinsk (my other point of reference) though. Munich is very expensive. so is Frankfurt am Main and most of the South West. Ruhr Area can be pretty cheap, Hamburg is nearly as expensive as Munich.

Salaries also fluctuate. Having a "Berlin Salary" in Munich is hilariously bad, if that was your offer, you were very wise to reject it.

Do you own your flat or are you on one of these "like renting, but you actually gradually buy your appartment instead" things that are pretty drat cool about Russia?

utjkju
Feb 3, 2014

I told it: "leave" But To me answered: "rrrrrrrrrrrr".
The Red Bull team in the Formula 1 have sponsor from Tomsk.))))))
http://sergeydolya.livejournal.com/946597.html#comments



Exness
https://www.exness.com/about_us/

Mightypeon
Oct 10, 2013

Putin apologist- assume all uncited claims are from Russia Today or directly from FSB.

key phrases: Poor plucky little Russia, Spheres of influence, The West is Worse, they was asking for it.
The salary of engineers getting lowered due to Oil price would probably be illegal under German law btw., unless the engineers are under some hilariously bad "Werkverträge" which are like pretty crappy contracts.

I have never seen any kind of onctract in which the salary is tied to oil, now what does indeed happen is boni being denied due to external factors.

utjkju
Feb 3, 2014

I told it: "leave" But To me answered: "rrrrrrrrrrrr".

Mightypeon posted:

The salary of engineers getting lowered due to Oil price would probably be illegal under German law btw., unless the engineers are under some hilariously bad "Werkverträge" which are like pretty crappy contracts.

I have never seen any kind of onctract in which the salary is tied to oil, now what does indeed happen is boni being denied due to external factors.

The salary isn't tied with price of oil. But the employer can always tell: "Or we change the contract, or we dismiss you." It is always possible to make the additional agreement to the contract.)


Mightypeon posted:

Do you own your flat or are you on one of these "like renting, but you actually gradually buy your appartment instead" things that are pretty drat cool about Russia?

I can't understand this question. I understood that about the apartment and property... But what exactly?

Mightypeon
Oct 10, 2013

Putin apologist- assume all uncited claims are from Russia Today or directly from FSB.

key phrases: Poor plucky little Russia, Spheres of influence, The West is Worse, they was asking for it.
As far as I am aware, in Russia there are many schemes were you rent a house/flat/appartment, but the rent is not only rent but also starts to gradually buy the house/flat/appartment, instead of just renting it.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





In the US that is called Rent to Own. More common on furniture and stuff, and less common now since you just get a mortgage, but the concept was the same.

HoratioRash
Nov 20, 2012

I've a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore, Toto

utjkju posted:



I can't understand this question. I understood that about the apartment and property... But what exactly?

Вопрос по собственности жилья лично вам. Типа вы живете на ипотечной квартире, снимаете, или "рент ту овн" которое, как я понял, квартира снимается но какбе этими платежами выкупаете квартиру

So what's the diffrence between that "rent to own" and just... mortgage?

Mightypeon
Oct 10, 2013

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HoratioRash posted:

Вопрос по собственности жилья лично вам. Типа вы живете на ипотечной квартире, снимаете, или "рент ту овн" которое, как я понял, квартира снимается но какбе этими платежами выкупаете квартиру

So what's the diffrence between that "rent to own" and just... mortgage?

As I understand, Mortgage means you buy the house, move in, and then start paying it down. If you can no longer pay, you still have the debt unless you can sell the house to somebody else. This also makes it tricky to relocate I guess.
Rent to own is more like, you move into the house, and start gradually buying instead of renting it. You can stop at any moment without being addled by the house or by the debt.

Note that real estate is not my area of expertise, but this is how I understand the difference.

utjkju
Feb 3, 2014

I told it: "leave" But To me answered: "rrrrrrrrrrrr".

Mightypeon posted:

As far as I am aware, in Russia there are many schemes were you rent a house/flat/appartment, but the rent is not only rent but also starts to gradually buy the house/flat/appartment, instead of just renting it.

This is рассрочка.)
This is a little widespread way of purchase of housing in Russia.
People take a mortgage.
The mortgage in Russia is the credit for 20-30 years (it is possible for 3, 5, 10 years, etc.) under about 13,5-16% per annum. Thus it is possible to extinguish the credit ahead of schedule without penalties. Payments can be differential or annuity. A bank register encumbrance of the apartment - you can't make the transaction on property sale without the permission of bank.
The most widespread plan:
People make out the credit for 20 years. Payments is annuity. Monthly payment is minimum possible from all options. People extinguish credit ahead of schedule (people make payment large, than are determined by the schedule of payments). Monthly payment is recalculated for the rest of a principal debt. Thus the mortgage is paid in 3-5 years. It is more favorable than rent of housing.
I have a mortgage. In April we will make the last payment and bank will remove encumbrance of apartment (flat). We paid the credit for 3 years.
I don't want to take the credit more. The income of my family increased. Now we can buy other apartment without the credit.

Annuity payments



Differential payments.

utjkju fucked around with this message at 01:58 on Mar 30, 2015

ImPureAwesome
Sep 6, 2007

the king of the beach
What's your house/apartment like? Is it a house? Do you have a lot of space? Does it look like a Soviet concrete block tenement out is it more fancy? Do you have a backyard? Is it similar to others in the area?

utjkju
Feb 3, 2014

I told it: "leave" But To me answered: "rrrrrrrrrrrr".

ImPureAwesome posted:

What's your house/apartment like? Is it a house? Do you have a lot of space? Does it look like a Soviet concrete block tenement out is it more fancy? Do you have a backyard? Is it similar to others in the area?

It isn't a lot of fancy in my apartment. It is standard building, with the improved planning.
One of the most important criteria of the apartment is a liquidity, but not the fancy. ))) Liquidity is influenced by the housing cost, the area of the apartment and the district of the city.
When you buy the apartment it is necessary to think how you will sell it.
We have very liquid apartments have of 40-60 square meters. Big apartments are on sale very badly. Very small apartments are also on sale badly.
During life people can often change a residence. Therefore it is always necessary to think of liquidity of the apartment.
Similar houses are and in other cities of Russia.

And here by an old age we want to build the house. (At the age of 50-60 years)

View from a loggia of my apartment



utjkju
Feb 3, 2014

I told it: "leave" But To me answered: "rrrrrrrrrrrr".
http://art-links.livejournal.com/2549850.html
Ostad Mahmoud Farshchian from Iran

It's very beautiful



















TerryLennox
Oct 12, 2009

There is nothing tougher than a tough Mexican, just as there is nothing gentler than a gentle Mexican, nothing more honest than an honest Mexican, and above all nothing sadder than a sad Mexican. -R. Chandler.
Thats amazing, I would love to hang one of these in my home.

ImPureAwesome
Sep 6, 2007

the king of the beach

utjkju posted:

One of the most important criteria of the apartment is a liquidity, but not the fancy. ))) Liquidity is influenced by the housing cost, the area of the apartment and the district of the city.
When you buy the apartment it is necessary to think how you will sell it.
We have very liquid apartments have of 40-60 square meters. Big apartments are on sale very badly. Very small apartments are also on sale badly.
During life people can often change a residence. Therefore it is always necessary to think of liquidity of the apartment.

Have you wanted/needed to move often? Would it be easy to move if you wanted to live somewhere else? I vaguely remember someone telling me you have to do a lot of paperwork to move around in Russia, but I might be mis-remembering Thanks again!

utjkju
Feb 3, 2014

I told it: "leave" But To me answered: "rrrrrrrrrrrr".

ImPureAwesome posted:

Have you wanted/needed to move often? Would it be easy to move if you wanted to live somewhere else? I vaguely remember someone telling me you have to do a lot of paperwork to move around in Russia, but I might be mis-remembering Thanks again!

We often move - we travel, work, etc.
To move easily everywhere, in any city, between the cities (move around in Russia) , between the countries. Restrictions can be connected only with a visa regime of other country. For example, if I want to go to America, I need to receive the visa of America.
I take in travel the passport, the health insurance, the driver's license. It everything that can be necessary.

utjkju
Feb 3, 2014

I told it: "leave" But To me answered: "rrrrrrrrrrrr".
Photos of the district of the city in which I live.
The company which built this district: http://tdsk.tomsk.ru/customers/microraions/?id=7



My house second in the photo





In this photo. The house at the left - a house in which I live.

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

Thank you for a great thread!

It is very easy to think about people in distant countries and imagine that they must be very different, but a lot of the things you've said resonate with me as a Canadian. We may smile too much (you must think we are idiots?) and we say things about our own leaders and the leaders of other countries that you might find disrespectful, but in many other ways we are similar people. I especially like the Russian perspective on history: You've said several times in this thread that there is no good history or bad history, there is only history, and I think that's pretty enlightened. Maybe we aren't that mature yet because our history is very short, so people take it personally instead of trying to see it as the steps that have taken us to where we are now.

You should visit us sometime. The pictures you've posted make me think of what British Columbia (our westernmost province) would look like if it were cold. Seeing at least some of Russia (probably outside of the common tourist locations, to get the chance to meet some people who aren't already sick to death of westerners and their stupid cameras) is definitely on my list of things to do. I just have to get the pronunciation and basic grammar down first.

utjkju posted:

As it appeared, in the USA I have less freedom of choice, than in Russia. It concerns housing, schools, kindergartens, medicine etc.
Very important point - medicine. I don't accept system of medical care in the USA.

Not many people accept that system :)

Can you tell me more about the freedom of housing and schools where you are? In Canada, our young children go to either a public secular school (they are okay), a public Catholic school (better quality but they insist on religious teachings) or a private school that you pay for yourself. After your twelfth year of school, you may try to start unskilled work right away, go to a community college to learn a trade like welding or fixing machines, or go to university to finish a degree so you can get a job that "requires a degree" that is probably not at all related to your field of study.

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ImPureAwesome
Sep 6, 2007

the king of the beach

utjkju posted:

We often move - we travel, work, etc.
To move easily everywhere, in any city, between the cities (move around in Russia) , between the countries. Restrictions can be connected only with a visa regime of other country. For example, if I want to go to America, I need to receive the visa of America.
I take in travel the passport, the health insurance, the driver's license. It everything that can be necessary.

Sorry, I was confusing, I used two different definitions of 'move' in my post. For the first question I more meant have you lived in a lot of different apartments/cities? In America, if you change where you live you can said to have 'moved'. For example: I used to live in New York but it was to expensive so I moved to Chicago

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