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agarjogger posted:You know he says that. And then I have absolutely no way to view my iCloud textedit docs on iphone. Like, hah, what (...even through from the screenshots it looked like it'd be through a separate sandboxed file browser to get out of their own app storage sandbox)
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agarjogger posted:Wish you could just remote in to your iphone from Mac and do whatever from there. Why the hell not. I actually did that for a while with a jailbreak VNC server. Complete overkill but it did work perfectly fine. With hardware accelerated AirPlay Mirroring it could have been even better.
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Justaddwater posted:So no dark mode for iOS? The toolbar in iOS already does it and in general behaves way different from the one in OS X
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Jun 4, 2014 13:49
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I'm enjoying everyone complaining about Safari 8 including EME/MSE support for HTML5 video. As much as I hate DRM, I'd also like to get rid of Flash more.
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TinTower posted:I'm enjoying everyone complaining about Safari 8 including EME/MSE support for HTML5 video. As much as I hate DRM, I'd also like to get rid of Flash more. I don't like how poo poo(colors from page) blends into my goddamn tabs and top of window.
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Justaddwater posted:So no dark mode for iOS?
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Abel Wingnut posted:Man, I was really hoping iCloud Drive would be priced closer to CrashPlan. Guess I'll stick with that for now. It would certainly be great if I could pay $5/month for unlimited iCloud space, but these two things are not really solving the same problem. iCloud Drive is much cheaper than Dropbox, for now, anyway.
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I'm assuming that Yosemite's UI is no longer "Aqua"?
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z06ck posted:I don't like how poo poo(colors from page) blends into my goddamn tabs and top of window. System Preferences -> Accessibility -> Display -> Reduce Transparency Effects Or something similarly worded, this is off the top of my head, but it turns off all of the transparency.
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Jun 4, 2014 20:20
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Shin-chan posted:System Preferences -> Accessibility -> Display -> Reduce Transparency Effects Thank you, I was looking for that.
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Jun 4, 2014 20:22
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I signed up for the beta on Monday night when I found out about it. It told me information would be emailed to me when the beta was available. Is there any hope at all I was in the first million, or is Apple just being lovely and not telling people they didn't make it? I'm guessing I'll just never get an email.
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zergstain posted:I signed up for the beta on Monday night when I found out about it. It told me information would be emailed to me when the beta was available. I don't think anyone has received an email yet. Probably won't for at least a month or two.
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zergstain posted:I signed up for the beta on Monday night when I found out about it. It told me information would be emailed to me when the beta was available. You'll be lucky to wait. iOS 8 ain't bad but 10.10 isn't something you'll feel fortunate to get to use.
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I've been using 10.10 since the afternoon of the announcement and I'm about to switch back. I have used previous betas and never had anywhere near the issues I'm having currently. Really poor video performance when using the HD4000 graphics, random kernel panics, and constant crashes of previously stable applications. Give it a month or two and I'm sure it'll be in a much more stable state.
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LASER BEAM DREAM posted:I've been using 10.10 since the afternoon of the announcement and I'm about to switch back. I have used previous betas and never had anywhere near the issues I'm having currently. Really poor video performance when using the HD4000 graphics, random kernel panics, and constant crashes of previously stable applications. Give it a month or two and I'm sure it'll be in a much more stable state. This happens every year. It's always this unstable, albeit on different computers and for different people. Never install the first beta release on anything you use frequently.
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benisntfunny posted:You'll be lucky to wait. iOS 8 ain't bad but 10.10 isn't something you'll feel fortunate to get to use. It's not that I was expecting to get my download right away, but that I would be drat surprised if I was in the first million people. But I would think they could say if public beta slots are full.
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Shin-chan posted:System Preferences -> Accessibility -> Display -> Reduce Transparency Effects Thank god. I was slightly worried that we would have a System 10.5 again where for a year or whatever it was impossible to turn off the transparency.
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LASER BEAM DREAM posted:I've been using 10.10 since the afternoon of the announcement and I'm about to switch back. I have used previous betas and never had anywhere near the issues I'm having currently. Really poor video performance when using the HD4000 graphics, random kernel panics, and constant crashes of previously stable applications. Give it a month or two and I'm sure it'll be in a much more stable state.
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Whirlwind Jones posted:File bugs. It's not a "cool fun preview version". It's a beta. It's not meant to be used like your regular OS. I really like the "bug reporter" software on iPhone. I wish they had it for osx and iPad. Makes reporting bugs so much easier.
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benisntfunny posted:I really like the "bug reporter" software on iPhone. I wish they had it for osx and iPad. Makes reporting bugs so much easier. iPad has it, it's always in Notification Center.
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benisntfunny posted:I really like the "bug reporter" software on iPhone. I wish they had it for osx and iPad. Makes reporting bugs so much easier. OS X has Feedback Assistant if you're running a beta seed.
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BobHoward posted:OS X has Feedback Assistant if you're running a beta seed. Oh, has that always been there? Feel like they should add that to the dock automatically. Thanks!
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What are folks' experience with iOS8 like so far? At least, the generalities you can talk about without making GBS threads on your NDA. vvv I refuse to stop saying it. NDA NDA NDA. Flash Gordon Ramsay fucked around with this message at 14:21 on Jun 5, 2014 |
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Flash Gordon Ramsay posted:At least, the generalities you can talk about without making GBS threads on your NDA. Can we just stop saying this already? No one gives a poo poo about the nda. Every tech site is doing their best to publicly post screens from ios8. If Apple actually cared they would be taking down articles left and right.
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Even if Apple seriously enforced the NDA, its supposedly worded a lot less strictly this year anyway. Apparently you don't even need to sign in with a dev account to watch the WWDC session videos through the WWDC app this year.
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Flash Gordon Ramsay posted:What are folks' experience with iOS8 like so far? At least, the generalities you can talk about without making GBS threads on your NDA. This first beta release of iOS 8 is better than the last beta released for iOS 7 in terms of bugs and stability. It's got hiccups but they're minor. I haven't really found anything that messes up pre-existing functionality just some of the new things that are quirky. And that's fine, because that's what beta entails. iOS 7 betas had core defects -- not being able to use iTunes Match, App Store page being "missing" sort of, unable to turn iMessage on. With iOS8 the last bug I filed was because I couldn't reply by text while watching Netflix due to the keyboard not displaying. edit: actually the last bug I filed was on Bug Reporter itself :P
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benisntfunny posted:This first beta release of iOS 8 is better than the last beta released for iOS 7 in terms of bugs and stability. It's got hiccups but they're minor. I haven't really found anything that messes up pre-existing functionality just some of the new things that are quirky. And that's fine, because that's what beta entails. My boss said his ios8 beta had a crazy amount of bugs that were rather annoying, but he never got specific with me. He said worse than last iOSes, I know that statement doesn't really carry any validation though. Another developer at work installed it and his phone basically bricked. It was stuck at the network activation, we're not sure what the exact error there was or who was really to blame.
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Diabolik900 posted:Even if Apple seriously enforced the NDA, its supposedly worded a lot less strictly this year anyway. Apparently you don't even need to sign in with a dev account to watch the WWDC session videos through the WWDC app this year. http://oleb.net/blog/2014/06/apple-lifted-beta-nda/ quote:Further, Apple agrees that You will not be bound by the foregoing confidentiality terms with regard to technical information about pre-release Apple Software and services disclosed by Apple at WWDC (Apple’s Worldwide Developers Conference), except that You may not post screen shots, write public reviews or redistribute any pre-release Apple Software or services Makes sense, since the SDK docs are all public this year. No dev logon required.
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The Dave posted:Another developer at work installed it and his phone basically bricked. It was stuck at the network activation, we're not sure what the exact error there was or who was really to blame. My phone did at one point reboot and tell me I had to "reactivate" and the first attempt failed. Next attempt worked and my phone has been fine since. Also running on iPad Air with even less issues.
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The biggest problem I've run into with the beta is app compatibility, which is to be expected. This will vary depending on which apps you use. The system itself is surprisingly stable for me with Beta 1.
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BobHoward posted:OS X has Feedback Assistant if you're running a beta seed. Guess what I found out when that first appeared during the 10.9.3 beta and automatically pinned itself to my dock? It's only for the customer seeding program, and will tell you that if you're using a developer seed, to report to the bug reporting web page instead. Slightly off topic, my favorite part about the bug tracking is that you're not entitled to check on bugs which you did not file. Even if one of your bugs is closed as a duplicate of another bug, all you'll be able to do is periodically refresh the bug status page to see if the duplicate line reports the actual bug as still open or closed. Which was relevant to a bug that one of the 10.9.3 betas introduced, which caused the Heaven benchmark to outright crash the AMD 7xxx graphics drivers, with results ranging from safe graphics restart to full on kernel panic and instant reboot. Thankfully, the bug my bug was a duplicate of, which was identified only by its number, was closed within two weeks and fixed in the following betas. Actually, I really only jumped on the beta updates because 10.9.2 beta introduced the newer AMD graphics drivers, which rendered Bioshock Infinite actually playable on my R9 270X, as opposed to unplayably slow if I look in any direction but straight down. Is it NDA jumping to report issues in betas preceding a current stable release? kode54 fucked around with this message at 08:47 on Jun 6, 2014 |
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I installed iOS 8 to my 5S to give it a try, it seemed stable so I made the bad choice of keeping it installed... within a day it randomly rebooted, went into the pre-activation state and absolutely refused to activate no matter what I did. It was basically bricked till I got to a computer, put it in recovery mode and restored - to 7, because it's my personal phone and I can't risk it dying on me like that again. On my Mac I gave 10.10 a try too but I couldn't get the phone/texting thing I was really pumped about to work, it ran like poo poo on my (top of the line) early '13 rMBP, and almost every app I rely on was glitching out (Parallels, Dropbox, Skype, etc...) so I played around with it for an hour and then just restored back to my last snapshot of 10.9 with Time Machine.
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NOTinuyasha posted:I installed iOS 8 to my 5S to give it a try, it seemed stable so I made the bad choice of keeping it installed... within a day it randomly rebooted, went into the pre-activation state and absolutely refused to activate no matter what I did. It was basically bricked till I got to a computer, put it in recovery mode and restored - to 7, because it's my personal phone and I can't risk it dying on me like that again. I mean, I assume your device is registered at the developer portal? Mine did a similar thing and actually failed activation the first time but I just did it one more time immediately after and it was fine. Actually iPad did the same thing this morning.
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Mine's registered through the developer portal thanks to my employer. I tried activation over wifi, wireless data, iTunes, it just wasn't working.
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kode54 posted:Slightly off topic, my favorite part about the bug tracking is that you're not entitled to check on bugs which you did not file. Even if one of your bugs is closed as a duplicate of another bug, all you'll be able to do is periodically refresh the bug status page to see if the duplicate line reports the actual bug as still open or closed. Developers may expose their own proprietary information (code, contents of crash reports, etc.) in the details of their bug reports, and this must remain confidential to Apple.
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Yup, I imagine booting back to activation was a side effect of apple fixing the loophole where you could install the beta without registering.
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Well my UDID is listed under 'Certificates, Identifiers & Profiles' on my company's dev account, I have the 'Developer' menu in Settings, and I got the IPSW straight from the iOS Dev Center. There's no reason it should've locked me out unless their process is hosed.
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