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Eternal Sunshine of a Spotless Mind, Moon, Her, District 9 are all better sci-fi films than Inception.
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 07:25 |
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Eternal Sunshine of a Spotless Mind, Moon, Her, District 9 are all better sci-fi films than Inception.
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 07:26 |
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Namedropping some lesser-known sci-fi worth looking into La Jetée (supposed inspiration for 12 Monkeys, old and french and slow) Stalker (eh you know what this is) The Girl Who Leapt Through Time (romantic, time travel, exactly what the title says, tw: anime) Fantastic Planet (Weird and French and trippy, animated) Beyond the Black Rainbow (Canadian and trippy, not very deep but amazing unique ambiance on a budget) Controller (Taiwanese cast and location, UK/US production, soundtrack, other stuff) http://vimeo.com/71495477
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 07:33 |
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Eternal Sunshine of a Spotless Mind, Moon, Her, District 9 are all better sci-fi films than Inception. Inception is basically a joyless unquotable heist movie.
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 07:35 |
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People say that Last Year at Marienbad was an influence on Inception but I don't really see the link. It's a good film if you're in the mood for weird b&w 60s french arthouse stuff though.
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 07:36 |
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Sabel posted:Namedropping some lesser-known sci-fi worth looking into Edge of Tomorrow was pretty decent if not god tier
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 07:41 |
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everyone talked it up like it was the smartest poo poo to ever exist, then i see it and it's just another action flick, except set in some really surprisingly mundane "dreams". oh great a longass scene where indistinguishable people in ski masks shoot guns at each other. great for me to fall asleep to
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 07:41 |
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Controller has an interesting premise, a few plot holes which is kind of shameful for a 10 minute long film, but great atmosphere, music, and amazing fight choreography. Could potentially be a great feature film in the hands of a *little* bit more competent writer, and budget
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 07:46 |
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Vargs posted:everyone talked it up like it was the smartest poo poo to ever exist, then i see it and it's just another action flick, except set in some really surprisingly mundane "dreams". oh great a longass scene where indistinguishable people in ski masks shoot guns at each other. great for me to fall asleep to i mean it was ok summer blockbluster action flick with surprisingly not a lot of action. some of the action that was there was p. cool at least. but there was a lot of dumb explaining poo poo to ellen page for idiot americans and some plot holes and just general boring psuedo-intellect writing. woulda been better if it was people running around in dreams shooting up poo poo for 2 hours with explosions
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 07:50 |
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Sabel posted:Namedropping some lesser-known sci-fi worth looking into I'm gonna have to look into a few of these
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 07:55 |
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inception felt like an exercise in plate spinning; nolan wanted to show off how many rules he could build on top of each other and keep everything going memento's the polar opposite: everything that happens is built off one simple rule about leonard's ability to form memories I disagree about the action being bad though; this is loving impressive https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6XkEEzjVFA the bad guys in the snow scenes have black beanies on, the good guys have white ones on. it's literally colour coded
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 07:56 |
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Posting in a thread where goons, who are notoriously bad at picking good movies, call a good movie bad. I don't even have to defend that the movie was good. Jesus himself could literally explode from an atheists brain and prove that he was real, and that the only reason mankind was created was to spend thousands of years preparing for how awesome Inception would be... and goons, especially SMG, would still say it sucked. Guess what: Nobody gives a poo poo about goons opinions. Deal with it.
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 08:59 |
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all the criticisms in this thread are pretty fair actually
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 09:02 |
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I liked it the first time i saw it because I thought the scene with the japanse dude at the beginning was the same as the one at the end and that the guy recreated the entire universe in limbo as it existed shortly before the movie began and got himself trapped in an infinite recursion, but when I rewatched I'm pretty sure that's not what happened at all and the real ending is actually kind of dull
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 09:02 |
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ThaGrandCow posted:Posting in a thread where goons, who are notoriously bad at picking good movies, call a good movie bad. nobody gives a poo poo
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 09:02 |
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Inception (2010) is probably the most recent big-budget blockbuster to inspire mass confusion amongst it audience. The key to understanding it, and particularly its somewhat frustrating ending, is to consider Inception to be a movie about movies. Inception ending Let me backtrack a bit. Obviously, in talking about the ending of the movie, I’m going to spoil things. Inception is of course not “literally” about movies. No character talks about movies during the film’s running time. Taken at face value, it’s just a thriller about dreams, and people who can go inside them. Each of these people has a totem, a small object which only they know the specific properties of, which cannot be replicated in a dream (thereby allowing its possessor to discover whether the space they are in is real or not). Cobb (Leonardo DiCaprio) chooses a little spinning top to be his totem - the idea therefore being that if the top falls down after being spun, he is in the real world, but still in the dream world if it continues to spin. Following this, the last shot of the movie is the top continuing to spin (though we don’t see whether it falls or not). This of course lead to many debates coming out of the theater, and onto the message-boards, as to the true answer to the movie. One camp pointed out that the top’s continued spinning, as well as other clues meant that Cobb was still dreaming. Another noticed a slight faltering of the top’s speed just before the movie ends, and argued vehemently that what is depicted is reality. As with any contentious issue, there were also fence-sitters, who suggested; “it’s ambigious, it’s up to your interpretation”. So is there a real answer? Or is it just ambiguous? Leo and Marion The answer is that Cobb is not in reality. But he isn’t in a dream either. The answer is that Cobb is in a movie. No, I’m not trolling. I know this is obvious. But is it? If we knew this, why would we have spent so long trying to figure out what really happened at the end? Nothing happens after Inception's ending. There is no sequel. The film reel ends. That's it. Now, you could tell me I’m being lazy, that I could say the same thing about any movie with an ambiguous ending. What’s different about Inception is that the plot of the film is about ‘incepting’ a false idea into a target’s mind through the use of a created, imaginary space. There is a slight difference as to what that space is; in the story of the movie it’s through dreams whereas in reality, Inception is convincing you that there is a truth to the movie being depicted through the movie itself. Now that’s layers. Cityscape I am not trolling you. Christopher Nolan is. The really funny thing is that I don’t think ‘dreams’ are a major theme of Inception at all. Reality, consciousness, and illusion are, but not dreams. If you want a movie about dreams, watch A Nightmare on Elm Street (1984). Freddie is able to effectively stalk his victims because the teenage cast are able to confuse his appearance with the surreal insanity that can happen in nightmares. Nothing is all that surreal in Inception. We do get manipulations of physics and physical space, but I’m certain nothing in the movie rivals the weirdest dream you’ve ever had. But they might rival images seen in other movies - and movies often do strive to look like your reality. The dreams in the movie are all constructed carefully to match reality - which dreams actually don’t. That’s why the biggest themes of the movie are not dreams, but creation and obsession. Thus, most of the cast in Inception do not play dream-weavers; they play movie-makers. You could, if you wanted, connect every character in the film to that of a crew-member commonly found on a movie; cobb and nolan The main character, Cobb, would of course be the director. He even looks the bloody same as the movie’s director, Christopher Nolan, doesn’t he? Eames (Tom Hardy), with the ability to impersonate others, represents the actors. Ariadne (Ellen Page), the architect of the dreamscapes, would be the set designer. I could keep going, but most importantly, Fischer (Cillian Murphy) is the audience stand-in. The heist of the film revolves around trying to alter his ideas as to what he should invest in. Inception is trying to make you make an investment as well; you are investing your time to watch it, if you saw in in a cinema or bought or rented it, you invest your money, and in order for you to suspend your disbelief and the film as real-world heist to work, it needs you to invest your emotion into it. It’s interesting that Inception has two major plot threads; the first is about the heist, the second about Cobb’s obsessions and the way his own creations corrupt him. If we take the film to be about films themselves, than the first storyline is about the magic of cinema, and how film-makers create an illusion for us to be entranced in. The second is more sinister, and I think more self-reflective on Nolan’s part; obsession has been the driving force of all of his films, from the Batman trilogy to Memento (2000) and The Prestige (2006), though this is one of his first films not based on prior source material; and also the one where the obsessor most clearly corresponds with himself. That is the true genius of Inception.
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 09:55 |
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ThaGrandCow posted:Posting in a thread where goons, who are notoriously bad at picking good movies, call a good movie bad. I actually liked it, but don;' t let that spoil your weird frustration.
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 10:42 |
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Inception was really fun the first time I watched it and was then less fun each subsequent viewing, but I really don't hold that against it. Like pretty much every Nolan movie, it's the kind of movie that's made to be watched once.
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 11:27 |
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before Inception came out I thought the way people circlejerked about Primer had been bad. little did i know...
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 17:01 |
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Heartbroken 2Twice posted:before Inception came out I thought the way people circlejerked about Primer had been bad. little did i know... Regardless of the plot and stuff, Primer is legit impressive given the complete lack of resources involved, especially given it wasn't shot on digital. Same goes for Following.
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 17:04 |
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op you bitch, you hosed up another goku poll. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXLDv-fUINM
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 17:10 |
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ThaGrandCow posted:Posting in a thread where goons, who are notoriously bad at picking good movies, call a good movie bad.
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 17:15 |
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Remember how Ken Watanabe impressed Leo and his bud into service? They had to work for him or else. And then in the end they're like bros for life because they shared a very intense dream?
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 18:12 |
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redshirt posted:
maybe you should try killing yourself? no offense, i'm just trying to help
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 19:01 |
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Interstellar's gonna be good, right? The trailer sucks.
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 22:43 |
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MondayHotDog posted:Interstellar's gonna be good, right? The trailer sucks. nope
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 22:49 |
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BOAT SHOWBOAT posted:Inception (2010) is probably the most recent big-budget blockbuster to inspire mass confusion amongst it audience. Thanks for this. I was looking for some deep spin on the movie, and this is pretty good. I'll have to re-watch it sometime later with this in mind. Not in a rush though cuz to be honest I was kinda bored the first time. Also, what was up with the Bane guy? Who the hell was he and why is he a super ninja and also able to look like other people? Can everyone in a dream do that?
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