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RAGE HOLE posted:Apparently Star Wars was entirely saved by its editing, done in large part by George Lucas's wife. She divorced him in 1983 and her last movie was Return of the Jedi. Which might explain a lot about how the rest of George Lucas's career went when it came to his own projects. it's hard to say it was "entirely saved" by its editing, because a movie doesn't really exist before it's edited into something. it's not like george lucas stitched every bit of raw footage together and tried to pass it off as a rough cut. what really happened is he started off with a lovely editor who didn't know what he was doing, who he then fired and replaced with his wife and two other editors. marcia lucas did a lot, perhaps most importantly reordering the death star battle to make it more suspenseful. but george lucas himself was, by all accounts, also heavily involved in the editing, which a lot of people on the internet (maybe intentionally) overlook these days. basically marcia lucas deserves a LOT of credit, and modern official accounts tend not to give her her full due because of the divorce and estrangement, but that doesn't mean she did literally everything and paul hirsch, richard chew, and george lucas did nothing. not that you were trying to say that, but a lot of nerds with an axe to grind like to imply that. so yeah, it WAS saved by editing, but so is every movie. it's just that star wars also happened to be butchered by editing before it was saved by editing, thanks to an incompetent original editor.
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Maybe the show is more about character building, relationships, and life? Just because hes a comedian doesnt mean everything has to be knee slapping hilarious. I thought the story arc with the Hungarian chick was really sweet and it led into something nicer. 
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Accretionist posted:Louis CK must've been watching cartoons with his kids and thought, "Why don't shows for adults have little lessons in them?" im cool with the morals, he had that in the funny stuff too, but the drama kind of overwhelmed the comedy this season. that said there is still some amazing stuff. the scene with his daughter and the violin was amazing. the younger daughter is great
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:im cool with the morals, he had that in the funny stuff too, but the drama kind of overwhelmed the comedy this season. I prefer the Violin scene when shes playing very nicely and then Louie comes in and yells at her. "ITS NOT TIME FOR THAT NOW! DO YOUR HOMEWORK!"
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Jun 29, 2014 09:21
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Benedick Cuckold posted:it's hard to say it was "entirely saved" by its editing, because a movie doesn't really exist before it's edited into something. it's not like george lucas stitched every bit of raw footage together and tried to pass it off as a rough cut. what really happened is he started off with a lovely editor who didn't know what he was doing, who he then fired and replaced with his wife and two other editors. marcia lucas did a lot, perhaps most importantly reordering the death star battle to make it more suspenseful. but george lucas himself was, by all accounts, also heavily involved in the editing, which a lot of people on the internet (maybe intentionally) overlook these days. basically marcia lucas deserves a LOT of credit, and modern official accounts tend not to give her her full due because of the divorce and estrangement, but that doesn't mean she did literally everything and paul hirsch, richard chew, and george lucas did nothing. not that you were trying to say that, but a lot of nerds with an axe to grind like to imply that. That is fair enough, and I don't mean to take away from the other editors. My main point was just that it is an important and underappreciated job that has a big impact on how well a story works. Blah blah here is a dog and a wallaby kissing. 
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Jun 29, 2014 09:57
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"hello i enjoy television comgedy 'louis" -people you don't enjoy talking to at parties
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Heartbroken 2Twice posted:"hello i enjoy television comgedy 'louis" which, y'know, guilty
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Jun 29, 2014 10:02
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That episode where he catches his daughter smoking weed went on forever. I was drunk and it was like 3 AM and I was like holy poo poo this is longer than 30 minutes wtf. Louie CK is really loving funny though and if you will yourself into not liking him because of internet people or whatever I don't know what can be done for you.
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Jun 29, 2014 11:33
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It was good in the last season when he tried to rape his friend and that made her fall in love with him and they lived happily ever after.
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Jun 29, 2014 11:39
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Louie totally jumped the shark man who needs Louie when we have comedy shows like the one with the real funny nerd guy who yells Bazooper or the one where Charlie Sheen plays a walking corpse man gently caress that fat ginger Louie
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Jun 29, 2014 12:13
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Tortuga posted:It was good in the last season when he tried to rape his friend and that made her fall in love with him and they lived happily ever after. You're loving stupid, dog.
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Jun 29, 2014 12:14
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Palpatine MD posted:Louie totally jumped the shark man who needs Louie when we have comedy shows like the one with the real funny nerd guy who yells Bazooper or the one where Charlie Sheen plays a walking corpse man gently caress that fat ginger Louie Bazinga. Also, I wish it was the mid oughts again and I could watch Reno 911 w/out knowing the jokes.
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Jun 29, 2014 12:16
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Where did he ever say he was trying to make a funny show? I'm not trying to goon hard here but I've watched a lot of interviews and listened to every podcast LCK has ever been on and he just always talks about how he wants his show to be different from what he thinks TV has become and he really wants it to evoke how he thinks life really feels (sometimes so funny its ridiculous, sometimes so sad it is funny, sometimes so funny that it is sad, sometimes its just lovely and boring). If you tune in to Louis for a guaranteed 30 mins of laughs (more like 20 minutes of set-up, 2 minutes of stand-up and some fantastic punchlines) then you are maybe missing the point? Some people are really just into Sad Bastard Media. people are straight up listening to Modest Mouse and Radiohead, watching movies like "Love, Liza" and "Push Me" (lovely humans with lovely lives get poo poo on, learn nothing, credits roll). The scene in S2 or S3 where Louie and the TV/Film exec is talking him up and he pitches the idea of a guy who sucks and is sad and poo poo just keeps happening to him and the exec just bails halfway through the pitch to a different table in the same restaurant is almost certainly a real story from his career. I can't fault you for watching a show that has historically been very funny and then being mad when it isn't funny, but you really cannot be mad at something for it not being what you wanted.
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Jun 29, 2014 16:03
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I liked it when it was a comedy show, whatever he's been doing this season sucks poo poo
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Jun 29, 2014 16:06
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yeah art that examines the human condition is great but when I want that I'll look to dostoyevsky or something not louis loving ck
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Jun 29, 2014 16:14
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i didnt finish the season yet i dont think but i really liked the drug dealer guy also i think that episode is sposed to take place in my town which is p baller also who did you piss off to get that title
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Jun 29, 2014 16:16
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psyopmonkey posted:The show Louie is really good. get the gently caress out already
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Jun 29, 2014 16:17
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Bust Rodd posted:Where did he ever say he was trying to make a funny show? I'm not trying to goon hard here but I've watched a lot of interviews and listened to every podcast LCK has ever been on and he just always talks about how he wants his show to be different from what he thinks TV has become and he really wants it to evoke how he thinks life really feels (sometimes so funny its ridiculous, sometimes so sad it is funny, sometimes so funny that it is sad, sometimes its just lovely and boring). except every season of the show before the latest one WAS pretty much straight intelligent comedy with occasional poignant moments. that worked and was good. he reversed the formula and it was not as good.
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Jun 29, 2014 16:18
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its basically a different show now but whether its good or not is subjective, i think its still good however. tbh i never was a huge fan of it to begin with though. one thing that i will say is that its kind of depressing to watch a show about such a miserable goony failure
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Jun 29, 2014 16:20
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louis ck is not a comedian. hes philosopher. walking around like a modern day socrates not giving a shot how he looks, looking at the way things hav turned out and going like "wow, hosed up"
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Jun 29, 2014 16:37
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Ramsus posted:this isn't something i like this is the only bit of this show I have ever seen. is it supposed to be a comedy because I dont see any humor just tragedy
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Jun 29, 2014 16:39
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psyopmonkey posted:Maybe the show is more about character building, relationships, and life? He's got a fat girl moaning about being fat lol, im sorry its not good.
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Jun 29, 2014 16:39
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Raip posted:this is the only bit of this show I have ever seen. watch the third season its p good. that scene is not indicative of it at all
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Jun 29, 2014 16:39
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louis ck: iiiiiiiiiiiii.... am really fat. [laughter] and its not OK to be this fat [laughter]. Its gotten to the point where like ..... i dont even care anymore. [laughter] im just going with it [laughter] and it's not OK to come up to me and tell me, that im fat [laughter]. thats actually rude, what youre doing. [laugheter]. you're a human being telling a nother human being, that hes eatne too much. thats basically it. [laughter] the suns gonna explode one day.... [laughter].... and you're telling me that im fat. [laughter] great.
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Jun 29, 2014 16:42
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Ponce de Le0n posted:He's got a fat girl moaning about being fat lol, im sorry its not good. actually when you put it that way it sounds a lot funnier than it actually was in the show it was still a thought provoking scene though bc that tublord nailed it when she was complaining about how a guy would gently caress her but not hold her hand its sad but true but if youre a fat female youre probably going to be valued less as a person
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I used to watch Louie and I liked it but then some ugly, fat internet women (the same internet women who complained about the fat episode) said I shouldn't watch it anymore because Louie is a rapist and it's triggering so I don't watch it any more but that's because the season finished.
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Jun 29, 2014 16:51
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life is.... beautiful and dark and weird. you know. relationships. human connection. people getting born, dying. having kids. loneliness. but then theres those pockets of joy where you meet some person who doesnt speak english and you celebrate life together and acknowledge a shared humanity thats beyond language. its a bizarre universe. *jazz plays*
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Jun 29, 2014 16:52
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Fetus Tree posted:actually when you put it that way it sounds a lot funnier than it actually was in the show Does this mean that when you're defending your favourite pedophiles, you're more likely to defend the ones that gently caress skinny kids?
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Jun 29, 2014 16:53
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Kirk Johnson posted:Does this mean that when you're defending your favourite pedophiles, you're more likely to defend the ones that gently caress skinny kids? if SA keeps it up, at this rate, i wont have any pedophiles left to defend  Kirk Johnson posted:I used to watch Louie and I liked it but then some ugly, fat internet women (the same internet women who complained about the fat episode) said I shouldn't watch it anymore because Louie is a rapist and it's triggering so I don't watch it any more but that's because the season finished. also if it makes you feel better, some goon linked a tumblr or something where another fat girl on the internet was saying that its also rape to exclude the possibility of a woman being raped in a tv show so theres always that rape by omission or some poo poo
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Jun 29, 2014 16:55
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Fetus Tree posted:
If only there were a ton of different ways to change this with dedicated routines and lifestyle choices to prevent being fat.
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Jun 29, 2014 16:57
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Fetus Tree posted:i didnt finish the season yet i dont think but i really liked the drug dealer guy he's a really insufferable tranny who craves endless attention
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He's a big rapey mexican, and that is funny in itself
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