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Tiberius Thyben
Feb 7, 2013

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Artificial Idiocy
Jul 11, 2008
Everything posted in this thread so far is true.

Restaurant owners are dysfunctional human scum. Restaurant employees are alcoholic night owls who inevitably lose their social circles due to working evenings and weekends. Smoking is pretty much mandatory. You will make good money serving, better than any other job which requires no education (with the exception of certain unionized jobs in certain places - in most of Canada, postal workers and garbage collectors make >$25/hr with benefits). You will make more in a 25-30 hour week than many jobs pay for 40+, but you get no benefits and most of your income is not counting towards pension nor accepted by banks for mortgage eligibility.

You will gradually become bitter and hateful towards humanity.

Serving for a time-limited period is fine, but it is also a difficult-to-escape trap for many; it's easy to get accustomed to having lots of cash in hand, and entry-level positions in most other fields would be a pay cut at first. That said, I have met two (out of dozens and dozens) waiters who lived disciplined, frugal lives while saving and investing their money. One is now a retired millionaire, and the other still serves to keep busy but owns over $700,000 of real estate he rents out. Both are in their 40s.

I bussed tables for a year at a casino restaurant, and served for 4 years at a steakhouse plus a summer at an upscale hotel restaurant, and made great money, but it almost destroyed my soul. I have so many ridiculous unbelievable stories about the people who worked or ate at the steakhouse, and despite actually making less money now I am thankful I got out and got a real job.

My advice would be that serving is a great job to pay your way through school with, but you should either get a degree in a STEM subject or pick up a trade if you really want a future.

Design Spots
Jan 24, 2009

by XyloJW

gagelion posted:

How exactly does this work/break down

all tips are put in a pot, and split

if a lovely server is a lovely server, they steal your tips.

Artificial Idiocy
Jul 11, 2008
Tip pooling policies vary widely between restaurants and places. The places I worked required us to tip out support staff (bussers, hosts, bartenders) based on a percentage of our tips or a percentage of total sales, but we only ever pooled on large groups which were served collectively.

Pththya-lyi
Nov 8, 2009

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2020

Artificial Idiocy posted:

Tip pooling policies vary widely between restaurants and places. The places I worked required us to tip out support staff (bussers, hosts, bartenders) based on a percentage of our tips or a percentage of total sales, but we only ever pooled on large groups which were served collectively.

If the support staff isn't being paid tip wages, they shouldn't be getting a share of the tips. Period.

VVV And that's not right! VVV

Pththya-lyi fucked around with this message at 09:09 on Jul 14, 2014

Design Spots
Jan 24, 2009

by XyloJW

Pththya-lyi posted:

If the support staff isn't being paid tip wages, they shouldn't be getting a share of the tips. Period.

yet they are.

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RonMexicosPitbull
Feb 28, 2012

by Ralp
if you were making so little in tips that management had to pay you up to minimum wage either you get caught cropdusting customers or the restaurant is 3 weeks way from closing.

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