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he is a bad president and tortured some folks imo
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# ? Aug 5, 2014 05:44 |
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# ? Apr 25, 2024 17:33 |
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just fyi i voted clinton
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# ? Aug 5, 2014 05:45 |
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"Tortured some folks" would have actually been awesome if Biden had said it. But Obama did, and I hate him for it.
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# ? Aug 5, 2014 05:55 |
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He's a great President - ended the Iraq and Afghani wars. Ended torture. Ended black renditions. He's a total hippy President, worthy of his Nobel prize.
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# ? Aug 5, 2014 05:58 |
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Ross Perot 2016
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# ? Aug 5, 2014 05:59 |
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nobel peace prize recipient
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# ? Aug 5, 2014 05:59 |
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shouldnt obama have prosecuted ppl who literally tortured ppl, under international law and general decency
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# ? Aug 5, 2014 06:00 |
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impeach him for speaking like a total nerd tho
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# ? Aug 5, 2014 06:00 |
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THS posted:just fyi i voted clinton
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# ? Aug 5, 2014 06:03 |
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Whirlwind Jones posted:clinton is the best on that list you idiot nah. if NAFTA had happened under a republican president lmao neoliberals are how the nation moves to the right centrist, reasonable, retarded the tony blair of america
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# ? Aug 5, 2014 06:05 |
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THS posted:shouldnt obama have prosecuted ppl who literally tortured ppl, under international law and general decency Those folks knew that they did wrong and probably feel really bad about it. Isn't that enough?
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# ? Aug 5, 2014 06:05 |
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If he had said "we tortured some people", it would have had an air of contrition and actual remorse to it. But to say "we tortured some folks" keeps it in the political buzzword mill of false levity and conveys a refusal to take responsibility for ethical missteps in any meaningful way. As in, they'd do it again if they had a reason and a venue. Obama got rid of all the wars, so now we can look ethical by default.
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# ? Aug 5, 2014 06:22 |
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who is your favorite black president?
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# ? Aug 5, 2014 06:57 |
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i am not a crock
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# ? Aug 5, 2014 07:14 |
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everything i know about american politics i learned through reading mad magazine
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# ? Aug 5, 2014 07:14 |
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ObamaCaresHugSquad posted:If he had said "we tortured some people", it would have had an air of contrition and actual remorse to it. But to say "we tortured some folks" keeps it in the political buzzword mill of false levity and conveys a refusal to take responsibility for ethical missteps in any meaningful way. As in, they'd do it again if they had a reason and a venue. Obama got rid of all the wars, so now we can look ethical by default. Actually things like leaving Iraq were due to Iraq not wanting to sign the status of forces agreement. Basically it gives US soldiers judicial immunity for any crimes they commit on iraqi soil. The iraqi government helped Obama live up to at least one campaign trail promise.
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# ? Aug 5, 2014 07:24 |
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Well I know how I voted.
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# ? Aug 5, 2014 07:34 |
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# ? Aug 5, 2014 07:35 |
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Carter was the worst because of him losing in 1980 the democrats have been moving farther and farther right chasing after the republicans not realizing that the republicans orchestrated the Iran Hostage Crisis gently caress YOU REAGAN
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# ? Aug 5, 2014 07:35 |
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etalian posted:Actually things like leaving Iraq were due to Iraq not wanting to sign the status of forces agreement. Basically it gives US soldiers judicial immunity for any crimes they commit on iraqi soil. Well they were going to leave like 10-30k, instead they left like 450 to just guard the embassy after negotiations went south. Look how that all worked out for everyone. Now Baghdad is a city-state. But either way, there was going to be a significant pull-out, probably even if McCain won. It's hard to accomplish a mission if the mission is "drive around indefinitely and try not to get blown up". And everyone probably realized that by 2009. But I don't believe the different parties actually want different things (especially when it comes to da wars), so maybe I'm just cynical.
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# ? Aug 5, 2014 07:43 |
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its nice to have a fuckable president for once. i mean i would have hosed bush but only in his younger years. Free Palestine.
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# ? Aug 5, 2014 07:45 |
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9goats dead posted:its nice to have a fuckable president for once. i mean i would have hosed bush but only in his younger years. Free Palestine. I'll bet Michelle whips his rear end wearing leather What a bad president you are aren't you Yes my approval ratings are down
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# ? Aug 5, 2014 07:47 |
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WHAT A GOOD DOG posted:who is your favorite black president? david palmer
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# ? Aug 5, 2014 07:50 |
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Kelfeftaf posted:"Tortured some folks" would have actually been awesome if Biden had said it. But Obama did, and I hate him for it. More awesome still if bush had said it over a hip hop beat
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# ? Aug 5, 2014 09:21 |
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black omaha
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# ? Aug 5, 2014 09:46 |
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# ? Apr 25, 2024 17:33 |
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They are all bad.
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# ? Aug 5, 2014 09:54 |