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The D-line is a rotating cast of high draft picks that haven't lived up to their billing, and none of the linebackers can cover. Quarterbacks  -Safe Nick Foles Mark Sanchez Matt Barkley -Cut GJ Kinne QB1 is Foles' job to lose. Sanchez has looked not-awful in preseason play but are you loving kidding me? In his limited snaps, it looks like Barkley has gone from completely awful to just mostly awful, but I don't see the team giving up on a 4th-round pick this quickly. GJ Kinne is a camp body. Has some scrambling ability but completely abhors the pocket and will run outside even without pressure. He's gone, but was on the practice squad last year and could end up there again. Runningbacks -Safe LeSean McCoy Darren Sproles Chris Polk -Cut Henry Josey Matthew Tucker Kenjon Barner Lesan McCoy is LeSean McCoy.  Sproles is not McCoy but can do some of the same things re: receptions out of the backfield. I have no reason to believe that Polk would be cut, but he didn't see much use last year so it's not out of the question if they like any of the other RBs they brought into camp. Fluellen, Josey and Tucker have managed to not embarrass themselves thus far and have even looked good at times against 3rd and 4th-team defenses, but haven't exactly wowed either. Well, now Fluellen was traded. Kenjon Barner was picked up from the Panthers for a conditional 7th, probably just to kick the tires. Wide Receiver Wideout is a bit of a mess. DeSean Jackson was cut. A very slow but still steady-handed Jason Avant ended up with Carolina. -Safe Jeremy Maclin Riley Cooper Jordan Matthews Josh Huff Maclin is coming off of an ACL tear but might be the closest thing the team has to a deep threat. Cooper was just given an extension and can be presumed safe, though he had a lot of trouble getting separation last year and I'm still not convinced he's worth a god drat. Matthews and Huff are 2014 2nd and 3rd round picks, respectively, and aren't going anywhere. Matthews has and will probably end up in the slot most of the time. No clue what they plan to do with Huff, but he has also seen some time as a kick returner. -On the Bubble Damaris Johnson Ifeanyi Momah Brad Smith Arrelious Benn Johnson and Benn and Smith are all special teamers, which could provide a bit of security WRT their making the roster, but it's not like this team needs four returners and one or more of them is bound to be cut. On the other hand, the Eagles aren't going into this season with only 4 wideouts so at least one of these guys isn't getting cut. I really, really want to see Ifeanyi Momah make it. A 6'7, 239 lb receiver who runs a 4.4 40? Uh, yes please.   Didn't look all that great in preseason last year but later reports were that he was playing injured. Looks faster this year, and seems to have decent hands but has a bit of trouble securing the ball (two fumbles in the Pats game). He's a big guy and does pretty well run blocking, which is a point in his favor. Not perfect, but has improved enough that it might not be possible to sneak him onto the practice squad. -Cut Jeff Maehl Quron Pratt BJ Cunningham Kadron Boone Will Murphy Camp bodies. Maehl is currently listed as a #2 on the depth chart but has done nothing to distinguish himself. Cunningham was a PSer last year. ---TE -Safe Brent Celek Zach Ertz James Casey Celek and Ertz might be more of a 1A/1B duo, while Casey provides depth. -Cut Blake Annen Trey Burton Emil Igwenagu Igwenagu is a converted FB and was on the practice squad last year. Haven't heard much about any of these guys. Offensive Line Everything past the starters is a bit blurry here. Tackle -Safe Allen Barbre Jason Peters Lane Johnson Dennis Kelly Matt Tobin Peters and Johnson are the starters, while Barbre was recently given an extension, IIRC, and is depth at both guard and tackle. I'm not saying he's spectacular but I don't think he's as bad now as he was on the Packers. Both Kelly and Tobin made the roster last year but I don't believe either saw a lot of playing time. Neither are a big drat deal but there's reason to expect that either will be gone while Lane Johnson is serving his suspension. -Cut Michael Bamiro Andrew Gardner Kevin Graf Bamiro was a 2013 PSer and could end up back there. Guard -Safe Todd Herremans Evan Mathis -Cut Josh Andrews Karim Barton Donald Hawkins It's possible that any one of these guys could make the final 53 with Johnson suspended. Barbre served as the backup guard last year but he's going to be starting at RT for at least 4 games. Not sure what the depth here is going to look like. Center -Safe Jason Kelce Julian Vandervelde Kelce is the starter. Vandervelde has played at both guard and center and was on the team last year. -Cut David Molk Molk's been decent against 3rd and 4th stringers in the preseason, but I doubt it'll be enough for him to hang on. Defensive Line D-line is a little weird here because there are a few players who get moved around on the line, and you could make an argument for them at a couple of positions. Defensive Tackle -Safe Bennie Logan Damion Square Beau Allen Logan started at NT last year after the team traded away Isaac Sopoaga but didn't really stand out. Square is a DE/DT and doesn't have the size to play NT effectively. Beau Allen (  ) was the Eagles 7th-round pick this year and has looked pretty good even against other teams' 1st stringers. He was getting good push against the Pats starting and 2nd-string O-lines and was still able to get a hand on the ball carrier despite being tied up. He's bigger than either Logan or Square and the fact that they gave him first team reps bodes well.-Cut Wade Keliikipi Defensive End -Safe Cedric Thornton Fletcher Cox Vinny Curry Thornton and Cox are the starters. Curry is a 2012 2nd-rounder who shows flashes and isn't going anywhere. -On the Bubble Taylor Hart Brandon Bair Hart's a 5th-round pick and could end up on the practice squad. Bair was on the PS last year and is currently occupying a 2nd-string DE slot. -Cut Francis Mays Alejandro Villanueva Joe Kruger Villanueva and Mays are both 6'9 monster giants but Villanueva was an army ranger and has the edge in PR. Joe Kruger is brother to Paul Kruger and was on IR all of last year. Outside Linebacker -Safe Connor Barwin Trent Cole Brandon Graham Marcus Smith II Barwin and Cole are starting, though Barwin is not much of a pass rusher and Cole has lost a step or two. Graham is alright. Smith was the team's 1st-round pick this year and has good speed, but isn't particularly strong and is still a bit of a project. This team is not going to have much of a pass rush this year.  -Cut Bryan Braman Travis Long Long has also had some experience at longsnapper. Could be back in the unlikely event of an injury to Jon Dorenbos. Middle Linebacker -Safe Mychel Kendricks DeMeco Ryans -On the Bubble Casey Matthews Emmanuel Acho Listed as dual 2nd-string LBs. Both kinda  . Matthews is a special teamer and I can only assume it's some combination of that and his stupid family name that keeps him employed.-Cut Jason Phillips Najee Goode Jake Knott Josh Kaddu Cornerback -Safe Brandon Boykin Nolan Carroll II Bradley Fletcher Cary Williams Jaylen Watkins Fletcher and Williams are currently the #1s on the depth chart, but IIRC Carroll was brought on to start. Boykin looks decent in the slot and had a good year last year. Watkins is a 4th-rounder this year and it's not unthinkable that he'll beat out someone else for a roster spot. -Cut Curtis Marsh Roc Carmichael Marsh is loving awful. Safety Nate Allen Malcom Jenkins Chris Maragos Earl Wolff Allen and Jenkins are the projected starters, although Earl Wolff is about as good/bad as Allen and did see some playing time last year. Maragaos will probably make the team as a depth/STer. -On the Bubble Ed Reynolds 6th round pick this year. Not likely to see playing time. -Cut Davone Morgan Daytowain Lowe Keelan Johnson Special Teams -Safe K: Alex Henery P: Donnie Jones LS: Jon Dorenbos No competition here except for... -Cut Carey Spear Cody Parkey I don't think they're seriously going to cut Henery but it's interesting that they've brought in multiple kickers in camp. Quiet Feet fucked around with this message at 23:24 on Aug 21, 2014 |
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Indianapolis Colts Quarterbacks Safe Andrew Luck Matt Hasselbeck Duh. Runningbacks Safe Trent Richardson Ahmad Bradshaw Dan Herron On the Bubble Zurlon Tipton The top three are locks, and whether Tipton makes the roster is entirely dependent on whether the team keeps 4 RBs. Fullback On the Bubble Stanley Havili Mario Harvey Cameron White This is a battle that is pretty wide open. Havili had the job last year but has been dealing with injury and is on PUP. Harvey has played pretty well after converting from LB, but struggles as a receiver. White looked like the best option in the last preseason game, and is probably more complete than Harvey. Wide Receiver Safe Reggie Wayne TY Hilton Hakeem Nicks Donte Moncrief Griff Whalen On the Bubble Da’Rick Rogers As above, it depends on how many WRs the Colts plan to keep. If they only keep 5 I think Whalen has the inside track over Rogers. Tight End Safe Dwayne Allen Coby Fleener On the Bubble Weslye Saunders Jack Doyle Top two are locks, the other two are interchangeable depth. I’d give the edge to Saunders. Offensive Line Safe Anthony Castonzo Jack Mewhort Khaled Holmes Hugh Thornton Gosder Cherilus Xavier Nixon Joe Reitz Jonotthan Harrison On the Bubble Lance Louis Josh Walker The starters are pretty much set. Harrison has shown enough (and Holmes has shown enough propensity for injury) that he’ll almost certainly make the roster as backup center. Reitz and Nixon are both versatile backups. If the team wants more depth Louis and Walker could both compete for a spot, but Walker likely ends up on the PS. Defensive Line Safe Cory Redding Josh Chapman Arthur Jones Ricky Jean Francois Montori Hughes On the Bubble Zach Kerr Redding, Chapman, and Jones have played well enough to lock up their starting spots. Hughes and Francois are quality depth. Kerr looked good last week, and if he does well in the next two games I can see them making room for him Linebacker Safe Robert Mathis Bjoern Werner Jerrell Freeman D’Qwell Jackson Erik Walden Andy Studebaker Jonathan Newsome Henoc Muamba Josh McNary On the Bubble Kelvin Sheppard Andrew Jackson Cam Johnson Until Mathis comes back from suspension I think Sheppard and Johnson both make the roster. After he’s back I expect the roster opening to come from this list, likely Johnson. I think Andrew Jackson makes the PS. Cornerbacks Safe Vontae Davis Greg Toler Darius Butler Josh Gordy Loucheiz Purifoy On the Bubble Marcus Burley Purifoy has solidified his roster spot with his preseason defensive and special teams play. Burley has looked good as well and makes the roster if they decide to keep six. Safeties Safe LaRon Landry Mike Adams Sergio Brown Delano Howell On the Bubble Colt Anderson Dewey McDonald Howell may be done with a neck injury, and if he is then the already-open starting competition gets even wider. I actually expect them to add someone in FA, but the top 4 (or 3, really) are locks. McDonald is a very likely PS candidate. Special Teams K: Adam Vinatieri P: Pat McAfee LS: Matt Overton Stone cold lock of the century.
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Oakland Raiders Quarterbacks (3): Matt Schaub, Derek Carr, Matt McGloin. Runningbacks/Fullbacks (5): Maurice Jones-Drew, Darren McFadden, Latavius Murray, Jeremy Stewart; Marcel Reece. Wide Receivers (6): Rod Streater, James Jones, Denarius Moore, Andre Holmes, Greg Little, Mike Davis. Tight Ends (3): Mychal Rivera, David Ausberry, Brian Leonhardt. Offensive Linemen (8): Donald Penn, Gabe Jackson, Stefan Wisniewski, Austin Howard, Menelik Watson; Khalif Barnes, Kevin Boothe, Matt McCants. Defensive Linemen (8): LaMarr Woodley, Pat Sims, Antonio Smith, Justin Tuck; Stacy McGee, Justin Ellis, C.J Wilson, Ryan Robinson. Linebackers (6): Khalil Mack, Nick Roach, Sio Moore; Miles Burris, Kaluka Maiava, Carlos Fields. Cornerbacks (7): D.J Hayden{PUP}, Tarell Brown, Carlos Rogers; Taiwan Jones, Keith McGill, T.J Carrie. Safeties (4): Charles Woodson, Tyvon Branch, Usama Young, Jonathan Dowling. Special Teams (3): Sebastian Janikowski, Marquette King, Jon Condo. That tight end position is a wasteland. Italics indicate the ones I could be wrong about. If DJ Hayden starts the year on PUP we'll stash another player somewhere
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 We have a new coaching staff in Detroit, so I don't have much history to go on. Plus I don't always pay a ton of attention on the offseason. But here are my guesses for the Detroit Football Lions. Quarterbacks Safe QB Matthew Stafford QB Dan Orlovsky Cut QB Kellen Moore QB James Franklin It's dumb, but I'm sure we'll keep Orlovsky over Moore. I don't think any fans anywhere will be happy about it, but Dano has some history with Caldwell, despite Moore looking better in pre-season. (if it was my call, Orlovsky would be cut) Running Back Safe Reggie Bush Joique Bell Theo Riddick George Winn Cut Mikel Leshoure Steven Miller Hoping Winn stays, anyway. He's looked good in the pre-season, including on special teams, so I'm thinking he's made a place for himself. Tired of Leshoure, he needs to go. Bush, Bell, and Riddick will all see plenty of touches, obviously with Riddick getting the least of them. But supposedly Bush and Riddick are lining up in the slot a lot at practice? So there's that. Fullback Safe Jed Collins Cut Montell Owens We're gonna have a fullback this season, but I think it would be insane to keep more than one. Jed Collins is that one. I'll be surprised if it's the other way around, but I hear Owens is the better of the two on special teams.  Wide Receiver Safe Calvin Johnson Golden Tate Ryan Broyles Jeremy Ross Bubble Kris Durham Kevin Ogletree Cut Corey Fuller Pat Edwards Andrew Peacock Conner Vernon TJ Jones is on the PUP list, or he'd be safe. Johnson and Tate are as safe as can be. Broyles is really good, it's just that his tendons like to get ripped. Jeremy Ross is gonna be our return guy, so he's in. I think only one of Durham and Ogletree make it. If I had to guess it'd be Durham. Fuller and Peacock have looked great, but we're too stacked at WR. With Ebron/Bush/Riddick taking time in the slot, even 5 WRs seems like it might be one too many for the 53-man roster. Would love to see Fuller or Peacock get a chance, but they won't. Tight End Safe Eric Ebron Brandon Pettigew Joseph Fauria Cut Jordan Thompson Jacob Maxwell Ebron is a first round pick, Pettigrew just got (over)paid, and Fauria was hot to trot in the red zone last season. They're all safe, simple as that. No room for more than 3. Offensive Tackle Safe Riley Reiff LaAdrian Waddle Corey Hilliard Cornelius Lucas Cut Michael Williams AJ Dalton Reiff and Waddle should start as long as they're healthy. Hilliard is a good backup, and Lucas is just the next guy up. Offensive Guard Safe Rob Sims Larry Warford Rodney Austin Cut Garrett Reynolds Darren Keyton Alex bullard Bryce Quigley Sims and Warford to start. Warford is awesome, Sims has a thousand years of experience. Center Safe Dominic Raiola Travis Swanson Raiola to start, last year he was better than ever. Swanson's been terrible in pre-season, but we still need a backup center. Defensive End Safe Ziggy Ansah Jason Jones Devin Tayolor Larry Webster George Johnson Cut Darryl Tapp Kris Redding Big questions at this position around George Johnson and Darryl Tap. Lots of talk about Tapp and his versatility (he plays some OB), but honestly, haven't heard a peep about him in camp or preseason games. But I hear about Johnson kicking rear end in camp, and have seen several huge plays in preseason. I think Johnson eats Tapp's roster spot. Defensive Tackle Safe Ndamukong Suh CJ Mosley Nick Fairley Caraun Reid Cut Andre Fluellen Jimmy Saddler-McQueen Xavier Proctor Gregory Hickman Much ado about Fairley's weight and motivation this offseason. I'll be baffled if we re-sign him after this season, considering he hasn't been taking reps with the 1st team for the last couple of weeks. Reid seems good. We'll re-sign Fluellen at the first d-line injury -- that guy has a way of staying on the Lions payroll (I'm not complaining, he's a good enough backup) Linebacker Safe DeAndre Levy Stephen Tulloch Kyle Van Noy Ashlee Palmer Tahir Whitehead Travis Lewis Cut Julian Stanford Brandon Hepburn Shamari Benton Levy, Tulloch, Van Noy to start. Palmer and Whitehead are serviceable backups, Lewis makes his living on special teams. Cornerback Safe Darius Slay Rashean Mathis Bill Bentley Cassius Vaughn Chris Greenwood Nevin Lawson Cut Jonte Green Aaron Hester Mohammed Seisay I definitely see us keeping 6 CBs. Slay and Mathis to start with Bentley on nickel duties. There's still probably competition between Green and Greenwood, but I think this is how it shakes out. Safety Safe Glover Quin James Ihedigbo Don Carey Isa Abdul-Quddus Bubble DeJon Gomes Jerome Couplin Cut Nate Ness Quin and Ihedigbo to start. Don Carey stays because he's a good special teamer, just have to hope we don't see him on the field much. IAQ has been awesome in the pre-season, so here's hoping he makes the team. I like Couplin at SS, but I feel like the team is more likely to keep Gomes of those two. 11 DBs seems like too many, but hey -- I'm just a guy sitting at a computer desk. Very possible they drop Gomes/Couplin in favor of another running back (Owens or Leshoure). Special Teams Safe K Giorgio Tavecchio P Sam Martin LS Don "Muhldozer" Muhlbach Cut K Nate Freese P Drew Butler Freese is losing our kicker battle, plain and simple. I think he's got a bigger leg than Tavecchio, but Tav is hitting field goals more regularly. Neither look great, but it's kicker. Who cares. Sam Martin and Don Muhlbach are both studs who aren't going anywhere. Think that's 53. I've never actually attempted this before, so I could be way, way off.
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And my Eagles writeup was already invalid less than 24 hours after I posted it. Kenjon Barner is coming from the Panthers for a conditional 7th. He's taking David Fluellen's spot, since Fluellen got traded to the Colts for a backup kicker. Makes me wonder if they've lost some confidence in Henery if they're bringing in even more competition.
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Here are your future 7-9 AFC South Champions Titans Quarterbacks safe -Jake Locker -Charlie Whitehurst -Zach Mettenberger Halfbacks safe -Bishop Sankey -Shonn Greene -Dexter McCluster cut -Leon Washington -Antonio Andrews -Waymon James Fullbacks safe -Jackie Battle cut -Collin Mooney Wider Receivers safe -Kendall Wright -Nate Washington -Justin Hunter -Marc Mariani -Michael Preston cut -Derek Hagan -Julian Horton -Jaz Reynolds -Rico Richarson -Brian Robiskie -Derel Walker -Isaiah Williams Tightends safe -Delanie Walker -Craig Stevens -Taylor Thompson cut -Chase Coffman -Jason Schepler Offensive Tackles safe -Michael Roos -Michael Oher -Taylor Lewan -Will Poehls cut -Jeff Adams -Bryon Stingily Offensive Guards safe -Andy Levitre -Chance Warmack -Chris Spencer -Kevin Danser cut -Tyler Horn -Justin McCray -Eric Olsen Centers safe -Brian Schwenke -Steve Vallos cut -Gabe Ikard Defensive Ends safe -Karl Klug -Ropati Pitoitua -Al Woods cut -Lavar Edwards -Marcus Dixon Defensive Tackles safe -Jurrell Casey -Sammie Hill -DaQuan Jones -Antonio Johnson cut -Mike Martin -Chigbo Anunoby -Lanier Coleman Linebackers safe -Zach Brown -Akeem Ayers -Moise Fokou -Colin McCarthy -Derrick Morgan -Shaun Phillips -Avery Williamson -Kamerion Wimbley -Wesley Woodyard cut -Kendrick Adams -Patrick Bailey -Brandon Copeland -Zavier Gooden -David Hinds -Jonathan Williard Cornerbacks safe -Jason McCourty -Coty Sensabaugh -Blidi Wreh-Wilson -Tommie Campbell -Marqueston Huff cut -Ri'Shard Anderson -Marc Anthony -Micah Pellerin -Khalid Wooten -Winston Wright Safeties safe -Michael Griffin -Bernard Pollard -George Wilson -Hakeen Smith cut -Daimion Stafford Special Teams safe -K Travis Coons -P Brett Kern -Ls Beau Brinkley cut -K Maikon Bonani WRs outside the top 3 are not so good, no good cornerback depth, two of the hbs on the team i hate (green, mccluster) and they are converting to a 3-4. It is going to be a great year Metapod fucked around with this message at 05:22 on Aug 22, 2014 |
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Seattle Seahawks Quarterbacks Safe QB Russell Wilson QB Tavaris Jackson On the bubble QB Terrelle Pryor Cut QB BJ Daniels RW is obviously safe, and Jackson is fine as a backup. If the Seahawks decide to use Pryor's insane athleticism in plays then they could definitely make room for him. Running Back / Fullback Safe RB Marshawn Lynch RB Robert Turbin RB Christine Michael FB Derrick Coleman On the bubble Spencer Ware Cut Kiero Small Demitrius Bronson The 3 RBs are a lock, and Coleman will be our FB. Spencer Ware was injured last season so it's tough to predict what he'll fit, but he'd be an okay backup to Coleman. Wide Receiver Safe Percy Harvin Doug Baldwin Jermaine Kerse Paul Richardson Bubble Ricardo Lockette Bryan Walters Cut Phil Bates Arceto Clark Chris Matthews Kevin Smith David Gilreath Lockette and Walters will probably make it on special teams alone. Kevin Norwood will start the season on the IR with his foot injury. Tight End Safe Zach Miller Luke Willson Bubble Cooper Helfet Cut Rashaun Allen Morrell Presley Miller and Willson were competent last year in their roles. If they want a 3rd TE, Helfet is probably it. Offensive Tackle Safe Russell Okung Justin Britt Alvin Bailey Eric Winston Caylin Hauptmann Cut Cory Brandon Gary Gilliam Wade Smith Okung and Britt will be starters. Alvin Bailey can play tackle but also guard as well. Offensive Guard Safe JR Sweezy James Carpenter Stephen Schilling Cut Greg Van Roten Nate Isles CJ Davis Sweezy and Carpenter start. That's an ugly (in terms of performance) guard rotation. Center Safe Max Unger Lemuel Jeanpierre Unger starts, and Jeanpierre is a backup. He played the games Unger was out last season, he's not great and was part of that awful O-line performance of that MNF game against the Rams  Defensive End Safe Cliff Avril Michael Bennett Cassius Marsh O'Brien Schofield Cut Benson Mayowa Jackson Jeffcoat Michael Brooks Benson is more of a bubble guy, but will likely be asked. He'll probably get picked up by another team. Defensive Tackle Safe Brandon Mebane Tony McDaniel Jordan Hill D'Anthony Smith Greg Scruggs Cut Andru Pulu Jimmy Staten This is pretty self explanatory. Linebacker Safe Bobby Wagner KJ Wright Malcom Smith Brock Morgan Kevin Pierre-Louis Cut Heath Farwell Horace Miller Marcus Dowtin Bruce Irvin is on PUP right now, so he could displace either Morgan or Pierre-Louis. Same with Korey Toomer Cornerback Safe Richard Sherman Byron Maxwell Jeremy Lane Tharold Simon Cut AJ Jefferson Akeem Auguste Michael Dobson Thomas Wolfe Phillip Adams This is pretty easy. Sherman and Maxwell are the lead CBs, Lane is the nickel back, and Simon backs them up. Safety Safe Earl Thomas Kam Chancellor Jeron Johnson DeShawn Snead Cut Steven Terrell Terrance Parks Well, the two best safeties in the league right here. Johnson and Snead are solely backups. Special Teams Safe K Steven Hauschka P Jon Ryan LS Clint Gresham Seattle didn't even bring in any competition for these guys, so this is pretty much set. I think I'm a little off, but that should be about it. There's a few PUP / IR guys that'll come in shortly after too.
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Steelers QB (2) - Ben Roethlisberger, Bruce Gradkowski RB (3) - Le'Veon Bell, LeGarrette Blount, Dri Archer FB (1) - Will Johnson WR (5) - Antonio Brown, Markus Wheaton, Lance Moore, Martavis Bryant, Justin Brown TE (3) - Heath Miller, Matt Spaeth, David Paulson OL (9) - Kelvin Beachum, Ramon Foster, Maurkice Pouncey, David DeCastro, Marcus Gilbert, Mike Adams, Cody Wallace, Wes Johnson, Guy "gently caress This Gay Earth" Whimper DL (6) - Cameron Heyward, Brett Kiesel, Cam Thomas, Steve McLendon, Stephon Tuitt, Daniel McCullers OLB (5) - Jarvis Jones, Jason Worilds, Arthur Moats, Chris Carter, Howard Jones ILB (5) - Ryan Shazier, Lawrence Timmons, Sean Spence, Terrance Garvin, Vince Williams CB (5) - Ike Taylor, Cortez Allen, William Gay, Antwan Blake, Brice McCain S (5) - Troy Polamalu, Mike Mitchell, Shamarko Thomas, Will Allen, Robert Golden K (1) - Shaun Suisham P (1) - Brad Wing LS (2) - Greg Warren, Guy who fills in for Warren for two weeks and then gets cut
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jeNULOcTd8 QB (3) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvWKRSC2zDA EJ Manuel Jeff Tuel Thad Lewis Taste's hot take: hahaha loving kill me. RB (5) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tho5qpKI4kY CJ Spiller/Fred Jackson Bryce Brown Anthony Dixon Frank Summers - FB This is actually a really strong group, comfortably top-3 in the NFL imo. OL (9) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x13XZK3iYrM Cordy Glenn Chris Williams Eric Wood Erik Pears Seantrel Henderson Chris Hairston Kraig Urbik Cyril Richardson Cyrus Kouandjio A respectable group all things considered. Henderson was a great pick. TE (2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko_XrM8NH0Y Scott Chandler Lee Smith Chandler is somehow a decent TE despite not really being good at anything. WR (6) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiF7mSHsmcM Sammy Watkins Mike Williams Robert Woods Marquise Goodwin Chris Hogan Marcus Easley A lot of youth but potentially a really strong corps. Easley's on the team for his special teams contributions as gunner/blocker. ST (3) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrMZfuqjMzA Brian Moorman - P Dan Carpenter - K Garrison Sanborn - LS DL (9) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uqd4b81KEww Mario Williams Marcell Dareus Kyle Williams Jerry Hughes Manny Lawson Landon Cohen Stefan Charles Jarius Wynn Corbin Bryant Without a doubt, the team's greatest strength. Cohen's had a very strong preseason thus far. LB (6) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dM5z5MJ-2ls Brandon Spikes Keith Rivers Nigel Bradham Ty Powell Preston Brown Jimmy Gaines Kiko's injury turned what was a strong group into a passable one. CB (6) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYHu1fR1DLg Stephon Gilmore Leodis McKelvin Nickell Robey Corey Graham Ron Brooks Ross Cockrell Nickell Robey loving owns at nickel. S (4) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zlU7-SWVaI Aaron Williams Duke Williams Da'Norris Searcy Jonathan Meeks Aaron Williams played better last year than Jairus Byrd, but whoever he's with is a weakness unless Searcy shapes up.
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San Francisco 49ers: OFFENSE Quarterback Colin Kaepernick Blaine Gabbert Obviously no question who the starter is, only question is who is the backup and whether we'll keep more than two. I believe it will be Gabbert, and only Gabbert for two reasons. First, his contract is guaranteed and we are facing substantial cap difficulties in the next couple years. Cutting him would be an unmitigated fuckup, so I think we ride with a disaster at backup. Second, the team is loaded with depth and can't afford to blow a roster spot on a third QB, even if Josh Johnson or Mcleod Bethel-Thompson was good enough. Running Back Frank Gore Carlos Hyde LaMichael James Bruce Miller (Marcus Lattimore) Frank Gore has one season left in him and he will split carries with Hyde, who has looked good in pre-season. LaMichael James looked like he was on the outs and likely to be traded before camp, but then Kendall Hunter tore his ACL. So, we will keep him for another year and see if he will ever justify his second round pick. Maybe we'll finally get effective at running some screens or sweep to him out of two back sets? Bruce Miller is one of the best FBs in the league as a blocker, and adds a lot of utility as an outlet in the passing game. He was a huge loss last year. Lattimore will likely start the year on the NFI list and not count against the 53 man limit. I expect he will be activated at some point, and who knows what he will do. Wide Receivers Michael Crabtree Anquan Boldin Steve Johnson Bruce Ellington Quinton Patton Kassim Osgood Top three are obvious, and a fully healthy Crabtree will be a substantial addition. Ellington has looked great and will likely steal some return touches from LaMichael James. The biggest question is between five or six receivers and who between Patton, Osgood, and Brandin Lloyd gets a spot. I don't think they cut bait on Patton yet, as he's showed a couple flashes and spent a lot of time injured. Between Lloyd and Osgood, I think we keep Osgood for his special teams role, which is all he provides. Keeping Lloyd would either cost us a young prospect or a special teamer, to gain depth we already have. So I think Lloyd is out, potentially netting us a conditional day three pick on the basis of a very strong camp. Tight End Vernon Davis Vance McDonald Derek Carrier I believe we cut Celek in favor of Carrier on the basis of Carrier's athletic potential. McDonald looked pretty good last year and likely gets a lot of work in two TE sets again, hopefully to be a factor in the passing game. Offensive Line LT-Joe Staley LG- Mike Iupati C- Daniel Kilgore RG - Joe Looney RT- Anthony Davis Marcus Martin (backup center/guard) Adam Snyder (backup guard) Jonathan Martin (backup tackle) Basically last year's unit except for Alex Boone's holdout. If/when Boone gets back, I think we cut Martin, as he has been pushed around all preseason. Honestly, I wish we'd cut him and sign Incognito because he's a better guard than Looney/Snyder, and people would flip poo poo. DEFENSE Defensive Tackle DE-Justin Smith DT-Quinton Dial DE-Ray McDonald Ian Williams (backup DT) Tank Carradine (backup DE) Tony Jerrod Eddy (backup DL) Demarcus Dobbs (backup DL / ST) I think Dial wins the starting job at nose tackle over Williams. Otherwise, the Dorsey injury makes this an uncomplicated group. If/when Dorsey comes back, we likely lose either Williams or Dobbs. inebackers ROLB - Aldon Smith ILB - Patrick Willis ILB - Michael Wilhoite LOLB - Ahmad Brooks Corey Lemonier (backup OLB) Dan Skuta (backup OLB) Aaron Lynch (backup OLB) Chris Borland (backup ILB) Nick Moody (backup ILB) Wilhoite backed up Willis well last year and will fill in for Navarro Bowman until he returns mid-late in the season. I don't think Aldon Smith gets suspended post-Ray Rice combined with the five games last year. If he does, Lemonier will replace him. Either way, Lemonier will be in the rotation after a strong rookie season. Skuta has rotated well at OLB and is a solid special teamer. I think we keep Lynch and Moody until Bowman returns to see if Lynch performs, then cut the loser between Moody and Lynch. Cornerbacks Tremaine Brock Chris Culliver Perish Cox Chris Cook Dontae Johnson Dustin Acker I think the rookies, Johnson and Acker, look good enough Daryl Morris gets cut. Perish Cox has had a great camp competing for slot corner, primarily against rookie safety Jimmie Ward, and Chris Cook has looked great. That said, I think Ward does get the start at slot, but I list him as a safety. Safeties FS - Eric Reid SS - Antoine Bethea C.J. Spillman Jimmie Ward Reid and Bethea are no brainers, on the strength of a pro bowl rookie season and big contract to replace Whitner. I think Spillman keeps his spot on special teams ability plus spot competence. Craig Dahl is terrible and will be cut. In the event of an injury to Reid, Ward will rotate to his natural position and Cox/Cook will play slot. Bubba Ventrone loses his spot as a special teams only player. SPECIAL TEAMS K - Phil Dawson P - Andy Lee LS - somebody No changes here.
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Dammit you don't need a safety. Why did you draft Jimmie Ward?
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The Puppy Bowl posted:Dammit you don't need a safety. Why did you draft Jimmie Ward? That was a common reaction among niner fans, the pick didn't make much sense with Reid and Bethea. The team's rationale is he is well-suited to play nickel, which San Francisco runs ~55% of the time. I think some of the thinking is that as a safety he brings some physicality to the nickel package, making six in the box less soft against the run. I am not sure if I buy that. Jason Verrett and Darqueze Denard were picked only a few slots ahead of the niners', and they certainly had picks to trade to move up, and Bradley Roby was taken one pick later. So, there will be ample criticism if Ward doesn't pan out. On the other hand, it does make a certain amount of sense. Play action out of three receiver sets is effective with a good QB, and the league passes more and more. Maybe they're ahead of the curve here. The current front office has a good record on drafting defensive talent, so I'm willing to give the,m a little benefit of the doubt.
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I more meant that you should feel bad for having three starting safeties on your team while some teams don't have any. Also, give back Boldin.
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Aug 23, 2014 07:09
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Was baltimore really in so much cap trouble Boldin had to go for a sixth? That still seems like a nutso trade.
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Quick Lions one after last night's dress rehearsal (the last o-lineman are just guesses): QB - Matt Stafford, Dan Orlovsky RB - Reggie Bush, Joique Bell, Theo Riddick, George Winn FB - Jed Collins WR - Calvin Johnson, Golden Tate, Ryan Broyles, Kevin Ogletree, Jeremy Ross (KR/PR) TE - Eric Ebron, Brandon Pettigrew, Joe Fauria T - Riley Reiff, LaAdrian Waddle, Corey Hilliard, Cornelius Lucas G - Rob Sims, Larry Warford, Garrett Reynolds, Rodney Austin C - Dominic Raiola, Travis Swanson (will also play guard) DL - Ndamukong Suh, Ziggy Ansah, Nick Fairley, CJ Mosley, Devin Taylor, George Johnson, Jason Jones, Andre Fluellen LB - DeAndre Levy, Stephen Tulloch, Kyle Van Noy, Ashlee Palmer, Tahir Whitehead, Travis Lewis CB - Darius Slay, Rashean Mathis, Bill Bentley, Cassius Vaughn, Nevin Lawson, Chris Greenwood S - Glover Quin, James Ihedigbo, Don Carey, Isa Abdul-Quddus K - Nate Freese P - Sam Martin LS - Don Muhlbach Practice Squad: Kellen Moore, Mikel LeShoure, Kris Durham, Patrick Edwards, Jonte Green, Caraun Reid, DeJon Gomes, some other dudes
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QB Matt Hasselbeck Seneca Wallace RB Shaun Alexander Maurice Morris Mack Strong Leonard Weaver WR Darrel Jacksons Bobby Engram Joe Jurivicius DJ Hackett TE Jerramy Stevens Itula Mili OLine Walter Jones Steve Hutchinson Robbie Tobeck Chris Gray Sean Locklear Floyd Pork Chop Womack Dline Grant Wistrom Bryce Fisher Rocky Bernard Marcus Tubbs LBS Michael Boulware Lofa Tatupu Leroy Hill DD Lewis DBs Marcus Trufant Ken Hamlin Andre Dyson Jordan Babinuex
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Aug 23, 2014 16:39
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Good team, doubt they win a super bowl though
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Aug 23, 2014 17:46
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gently caress Jerramy Stevens
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I guess I'll do the Bucs again this year. Cuts are in Italics,Starters are in bold Offense 22-26 QB (2) Josh McCown Mike Glennon Mike Kafka Alex Tanney Its clear that McCown is going to start even though he's been mediocre to bad so far because Mike Glennon has been also mediocre to bad and Lovie doesn't know a loving thing about quarterbacks. Mike Kafka and Alex Tanney are clown shows who I doubt could play in the Arena league. RB (3-4) Doug Martin Bobby Rainey Mike James Charles Sims (IR, probably designated to return) Bubble - Jeff Demps The Bucs had great depth at RB at the beginning of the preseason but a serious injury to Sims who was looking to be the #2 back and an unknown severity injury to Mike James have depleted that. Jeff Demps continues to struggle to be more than just a fast guy and even though he says he's committed fully to football now, it might be too late for him. It will be interesting to see if the Bucs designate Sims for return, he's out at least until week 10 and I don't know if that tag is worth using on a rookie who is far from a proven quantity or even a highly regarded prospect. The injury to James is a mystery because Lovie is half Sphinx and refuses to be forthright about things like injuries and players and football. FB (1) Javorskie Lane Lonnie Pryor Lane has been good both as a blocker and as a receiving option out of the backfield and can even run a little, he's almost a lock to make the team. WR (5-6) Vincent Jackson Mike Evans Chris Owusu Robert Herron Russell Shepard Bubble: Tommy Streeter, Louis Murphy Skye Dawson Eric Page Solomon Patton Jackson and Evans are no duh starters and Chris Owusu has done enough to lock up the #3 spot barring complete meltdown again. He was a camp superstar last year too and then turned into a rancid pumpkin in real games but maybe he's gotten it together now. Herron has been mostly bad in camp but he's a rook and too fast to cut. He's not going to contribute meaningfully this season most likely but is a nice project player. Sheppard is going to make it as a special teamer and one of Murphy and Streeter (or Patton) is going to take the 6th WR slot most likely. Smart money is on Murphy but Patton has been getting some buzz lately. TE 3-4 Brandon Myers Austin Sefarian-Jenkins Tim Wright bubble: Luke Stocker Ian Thompson Cameron Brate The Bucs have surprising, if imperfect depth at TE for once. Brandon Myers is a sort of all purpose TE, competent at everything while not being especially good at anything. ASJ looks like a devastating receiving TE, but his blocking leaves a lot to be desired. Same goes for Timmy Wright (who actually had the 3rd best season for a rookie TE ever statistically last year). Stocker is the best blocker out of the bunch by some margin and as such has a chance to make the team, though he's definitely not a serious receiving option. OLine C (1) Evan Dietrich-Smith Josh Allen G (3-4) Patrick Omameh Rishaw Johnson Kadeem Edwards Bubble: Oniel Cousins Jason Foster RJ Mattes Andrew Miller T (3-4) Andrew Collins Demar Dotson Jamon Merideth Jace Daniels Bubble: Kevin Pamphile Edawn Coughman Matt Patchan JB Shugarts The line is, frankly speaking, a disaster. I think all Bucs fans expected things to be rough, I don't know we expected it to be this rough. EDS has been worse than expected but since we got rid of our versatile and good center what other choice do we have? Guards are a complete trainwreck, though they looked like a 30 mph trainwreck last week as compared to a 150 mph trainwreck in teh first week. Oniel Cousins cannot be the starter week 1 which is why I scribbled in the Chiefs guy who had one nice game last year (which is much more than Oniel Cousins has ever had). Omameh is an unknown and unproven at this point but maybe he'll at least be serviceable. Kadeem Edwards was always a project player and that has proven to be the case while Jamon Merideth will stick around because he can play any position along the line. Not well of course, but technically you can say that he's versatile. Andrew "I haven't allowed a sack since 2011" Collins has also been bad, allowing three sacks and numerous pressures. Dotson is probably the best player on the line right now and is actually good (not great) though even he's had a couple of hiccups in the preseason. Defense24 D-line DT (4) Gerald McCoy Clinton McDonald Akeem Spence Bubble: DaQuan Bowers Euclid Cummings Matthew Masifilio DE (4) Michael Johnson William Gholston Adrian Clayborn Stephen Means Larry English T. J. Fatinikun Ryne Giddins Scott Solomon Ronald Talley Chaz Sutton The defensive line is supposed to be the Bucs defensive strength this year but so far only G-Mac has showed up to play (and how!). The man is a one man wrecking crew getting pressures, sacks and TFLs like Jared Lorenzen is getting type 2 diabetes. The rest of the line can't generate pressure though and McCoy, as amazing as he is, can't do it alone. Collins has been disappointing as has McDonald and Clayborn which is why I think Gholston can beat out Adrian. The man is a freak and in limited time last year was a better pass rusher and pass defender (his arms are like 12 feet long) than any of the other ends. Clayborn is also playing out of position now thanks to Johnson's contract which stipulated he has to be played on the right side. DaQuan Bowers has been transitioned to DT and appears to be better off for it. His problem is he can't stay healthy. The media in Tampa has turned on him completely and is calling for his ouster but I don't think Lovie is dumb enough to listen. Cutting him would accomplish nothing as he's a versatile player that can play all along the line (except nose) and there's no one behind him to clear the spot for that even approaches his potential. LB 6 Lavonte David Jonathan Casillas Mason Foster Dane Fletcher Brandon Magee Nate Askew Danny Lansanah Damaso Munoz Ka'lial Glaud The Bucs have probably the best 4-3 OLB in the game in Lavonte David (don't argue with me about this, its loving true) but not much else. Mason Foster and Jonathan Casillas are serviceable starters but not much beyond that. They won't lose you games (like Sabby loving Piscatelli), and Foster manages some nice splash plays every so often but they're not pro bowl quality or anything. They're also razor thin at the position. The only other LB you could see starting from the backups is Dane Fletcher and he's not very good either. Askew is a UDFA pickup that they probably don't want to give up on but is not ready to play in the league right now and while Magee has looked pretty good in the preseason it was against 2s and 3s and now he's injured anyway. Cornerbacks 6 Alterran Verner Jonathan Banks Leonard Johnson Danny Gorrer Mike Jenkins Bubble: Quinton Pointer, Deveron Carr, Rashaan Melvin Anthony Gaitor Kip Edwards Keith Lewis Its hard to assess how the Bucs corners are going to look as a unit because Verner has been nursing a hammy all of preseason, though he should finally play some limited snaps tonight. Banks has looked improved if not exactly like a superstar and Johnson has locked down the nickel corner position which is good because the kid always had potential, but just couldn't put it together. I put him as a starter becasue Lovie considers nickel corner a seperate position and has him listed as a starter as well. There's some pretty terrible or completely inexperienced players once you get beyond Danny Gorrer though (who's not exactly spectacular either, but has his moments). Mike Jenkins?  I also think its finally time to cut Anthony Gaitor who's been hanging around doing gently caress all for three years now.Safeties 4 Mark Barron Dashon Goldson Keith Tandy Major Wright Bradley McDougald The Bucs safeties look pretty good on paper, but the problem is that none of them is a real free safety which limits the effectiveness of the position quite a bit. Barron and Goldson both underperformed last year and at least one of them needs to improve significantly this year if Lovie's system has a shot at working. Special Teams (3) Kicker - Connor Barth Punter - Michael Koenen LS - Andrew DePaola While there was some talk of shaking things up and cutting one of our overpaid footsmen it really makes no sense to do it now. We have 7 million/yr going to these three goons for not a lot of exemplary play (especially Koenen) but we also have 13 million in cap space right now so its not like we need to cut down, and without a reliable backup waiting in the wings whats the point. I also think having his job threatened has lit a fire under Koenen as his punting has looked better so far this off season, and he's a superlative kickoff specialist. If Barth can replicate his 2012 season he's worth the money and not worth cutting. Well that's a whole lot of words about a team no one really cares about except me and 2 other people, but here it is anyway.
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Kazak_Hstan posted:Was baltimore really in so much cap trouble Boldin had to go for a sixth? That still seems like a nutso trade. Nope. Though admittedly it would have been difficult to sign Dumervil without Boldin being cut. Or they could have not signed signed Michael Huff and been just fine. It was the dumbest thing this front office has done in years.
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A Pale Horse posted:
I actually like hearing about the overall state of other teams, especially ones I don't really keep tabs on. There's also a soft spot in my heart for Josh McCown since he was in the UFL (and they treated their players like crap). You made it back buddy.  Tremendous Taste posted:RB (5) Brown could be a nice pickup. He was a good downhill runner with Philly, but sometimes has trouble holding on to the ball and really, really likes to bounce it outside. I'm hoping he turns it around with the Bills as I've kinda adopted them as my AFC team. But yeah, that's a pretty awesome RB group. Just hoping Jackson doesn't suddenly get old and Spiller can find his 2012 self again.
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I think Jackson is going to get old and Brown will lead the backfield in carries by mid season. Great pickup.
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Aug 23, 2014 22:54
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Why did you guys take Alterran from me you better treat him right.
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Lord Waffle Beard posted:QB Sounds like a good team bro I got a funny feeling about your season though. I feel like you'll make it to the super bowl, but get hosed by the refs  Props to Big Walt though. Top 5 LT ever.
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Lord Waffle Beard posted:QB Michael Boulware was the backup strong safety - not a linebacker - and it's spelled Darrell Jackson. Also you're forgetting about Kevin Bentley who helped us shut down Steve Smith in the NFC Championship. Also, Isaiah Kacyvenski - special teamer extraordinaire. Also Marquand Manuel (who also was a starter in the Super Bowl). Edit: Oh yeah, I forgot - Chartric Darby started the super bowl, not Marcus Tubbs. I don't think Marcus Tubbs made it to the Super Bowl at all (other than on the sideline and injured).
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