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so goons I was reading this pretty cool article about long-term love and it struck me while reading about Patrick and Doreen (like the 5th couple in the article) that I wouldn't know what to do if I had been diagnosed with alzheimer's. i was thinking that maybe ending my life would be better than letting my friends and relatives see my personality vanish piece by piece until I was nothing but a living husk of my former self. i would indeed probably prefer to die as myself (even if "being yourself" is absolutistic bullshit) but then killing myself would also hurt those around me tremendously, but they could probably get over that. it's much harder to get over someone who is still alive, just totally unresponsive. so what would you do, goons?
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Lichy posted:so goons I was reading this pretty cool article about long-term love and it struck me while reading about Patrick and Doreen (like the 5th couple in the article) that I wouldn't know what to do if I had been diagnosed with alzheimer's. i was thinking that maybe ending my life would be better than letting my friends and relatives see my personality vanish piece by piece until I was nothing but a living husk of my former self. i would indeed probably prefer to die as myself (even if "being yourself" is absolutistic bullshit) but then killing myself would also hurt those around me tremendously, but they could probably get over that. it's much harder to get over someone who is still alive, just totally unresponsive. so what would you do, goons? Yeah I see what you mean, I would probably want you to die too OP.
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Gypsum Fantastic posted:Yeah I see what you mean, I would probably want you to die too OP. so are you for euthanising alzheimer patients to stop them being a burden on society? what is your opinion on assisted suicide? please tell
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Aug 23, 2014 19:45
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Lichy posted:so are you for euthanising alzheimer patients to stop them being a burden on society? what is your opinion on assisted suicide? please tell If I'm honest I didn't really read what you said op just the bit where you said you wanted to die and I thought yeah cool whatevs. I'm sure it's a really serious issue and I wish you luck finding a resolution to your moral dilemma.
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Aug 23, 2014 19:48
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Gypsum Fantastic posted:If I'm honest I didn't really read what you said op just the bit where you said you wanted to die and I thought yeah cool whatevs. I'm sure it's a really serious issue and I wish you luck finding a resolution to your moral dilemma. im saddened by your decision not to read a quality piece from the guardian, but thanks for your contribution, gypsum
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Aug 23, 2014 19:50
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Lichy posted:im saddened by your decision not to read a quality piece from the guardian, but thanks for your contribution, gypsum It's been a long day and it was a lot of words sorry. RIP.
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Aug 23, 2014 19:50
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p sure you'd be like "hey im just enjoying life here, who the gently caress are all these people? leave me alone so I can watch TV or stare out the window"
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Aug 23, 2014 19:51
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after i helped take care of my grandma who has alzheimer's for a while, my conclusion i if i'm ever diagnosed with that poo poo i am killing myself while i still have some humanity because jesus christ alzheimer's is a fate worse than deathwilfredmerriweathr posted:p sure you'd be like "hey im just enjoying life here, who the gently caress are all these people? leave me alone so I can watch TV or stare out the window" think more like you getting frustrated that you can't remember the people you live with, and can't think of the name of your dead husband, or get angry that you can't figure out how to do some very basic things like tying your shoes. anything you've read about alzherimer's, the reality is worse.
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Aug 23, 2014 19:51
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Every time an old person dies the family is torn up but says "thank god, its about time, they were suffering anyway," etc etc. So yeah, euthanize me.
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Aug 23, 2014 19:52
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I'd probably just try to forget about it.
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Aug 23, 2014 19:52
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It's loving egocentric, selfish, and ignorant to think that Euthanasia is worse than neural degenerative diseases like Alzheimer's.
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Aug 23, 2014 19:53
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I'd take the long walk.
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Aug 23, 2014 19:54
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I'd rig up an elaborate suciide mechanism on a dead man's switch to kill me the day I forgot I'd installed an elaborate suciide mechanism on a dead man's switch
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Aug 23, 2014 19:54
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It robs you of who you are. gently caress that poo poo.
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Aug 23, 2014 19:54
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My doctor told me I'm likely to get Alzheimer's. Sucks man.
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Aug 23, 2014 19:54
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My wife's grandma has alzheimer's but seems to have plateaued at a stage where she's basically living life as Drew Barrymore in that one Adam Sandler movie where she forgets from one day to the next. However she's otherwise happy and healthy and she's always excited to meet people again and again, it's kinda weird but she doesn't appear to be suffering to terribly. Anyway I probs won't make it that long anyway so no real worries.
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Aug 23, 2014 19:55
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gggiiimmmppp posted:I'd rig up an elaborate suciide mechanism on a dead man's switch to kill me the day I forgot I'd installed an elaborate suciide mechanism on a dead man's switch drat, 
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Aug 23, 2014 19:55
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although it could probably backfire on you if you managed to forget it, but not because of alzheimer's. would be pretty funny anyhow
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Aug 23, 2014 19:57
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GOd drat that fifth couple is loving sad.
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Aug 23, 2014 20:00
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Feel a bit bad now for wishing you dead without reading op so realpost now: Life is a pretty cool thing. Alzheimers is a loving horrible thing and really painful a lot of times for relatives to have to go through. But it's a slow progression disease and you can live a good, happy life with it for a long time before becoming a 'burden'. I agree with assisted suicide when a person is in a lot of incurable pain, but when it's more that they're just a pain in the arse to look after I don't agree with. If a person is chronically upset/confused at late stages of alzheimers then assisted suicide might be merciful. But if there's any level of care that that person can get that means they don't have to be that way and can live in relative comfort and happiness then it would be a pretty disgusting idea to have them 'put down' just because it was expensive/impractical to provide that level of care. People are not pets and shouldn't be terminated just because they are an inconvenience.
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Aug 23, 2014 20:01
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If I ever exhibit signs of forgetting that I'm gay, I want you to put me down.
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Aug 23, 2014 20:10
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I've had a few relatives get Alzheimers in their old age, and they are unaware they have it. They just forget stuff and live in the past and in fantasy a lot when they're not being introduced to their children or eating or pooping or indulging in some fun oldfolkshome singalong or whatever. I suppose forgetting so much would logically lead to living in fantasy/woolgathering/daydreaming/random memories a lot. It has seemed to me that those people who are resentful types are not at all happy once they get the condition, whereas those who had non-resentful natures before contracting the disease are cheerful and fun to associate with even after its effects. I don't know whether any studies have been done on this. So work on yourself now and you might end up happily singing 'Roll Out The Barrel' or some other funky song in your old age like an uncle of mine did while I happily pushed him round the oldfolkshome's grounds. Everyone loves happy social non-egotistical people, whether they can remember stuff well or not.
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Aug 23, 2014 20:14
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I'll be one of the ones that just steal stuff from stores because no one wants to prosecute someone's crazy old granny 
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Aug 23, 2014 20:31
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i'd take up shooting heroin instead of shooting myself.
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Aug 23, 2014 20:33
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Yeah I'll probably be the old guy that forgets to put pants on and just walks around naked with a boner staring at young women then the cops will escort me back to the old folks home and nobody will press charges because I'm just some old dude little do they know I actually never had alzheimers
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