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ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!
Lol, so many libertarians seriousposting. I have some Chilean land to sell you guys.

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TEAYCHES
Jun 23, 2002

im literally the only person arguing for libertarianism in this thread and im trolling

Harald
Jul 10, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
...very carefully

Modus Operandi
Oct 5, 2010
In Libertopia will all police and military forces be controlled by privatized as well? If so where do they plan on recruiting these people and who will pay for their upkeep without the oppression of taxes.

TEAYCHES
Jun 23, 2002

Modus Operandi posted:

In Libertopia will all police and military forces be controlled by privatized as well? If so where do they plan on recruiting these people and who will pay for their upkeep without the oppression of taxes.

real answer to your question is that few libertarians will actually argue that there shouldnt be police or a public system of justice because its the only way to enforce contracts

this is extremely important to them because if there are words on a page and people sign it libertarians can then handwave literally any complaint against it because free will and choice and trade blablabla

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc
since rand came up heres the book her books are based on:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_Is_to_Be_Done%3F_%28novel%29

Monday_
Feb 18, 2006

Worked-up silent dork without sex ability seeks oblivion and demise.
The Great Twist
The best part is according to the comments, everyone paid for their land in bitcoins, which the Chilean government doesn't recognize as a valid currency, so no one can sue to get their money back.

smg77
Apr 27, 2007

THS posted:

im literally the only person arguing for libertarianism in this thread and im trolling

Thank goodness. For a minute I was worried we still had unironic libertarians at SA.

Tubgirl Cosplay
Jan 10, 2011

by Ion Helmet

Modus Operandi posted:

In Libertopia will all police and military forces be controlled by privatized as well? If so where do they plan on recruiting these people and who will pay for their upkeep without the oppression of taxes.

You pay for a private security company to protect you, and your neighbor does likewise for himself. Now that you've combined the famously honorable fields of mercenary work and protection racket, it is strongly in both of your interests to not be the poor chump stuck with the least well-equipped security service, and since that's largely a function of who's got the most money/membership the biggest and strongest company will rapidly snowball into a monopoly enforcing and arbitrating law over all citizens that totally isn't just an autocratic government because someone else can start up their own garage security racket and get annihilated and probably killed by the entrenched major players at any time.

IOW, literally the same as how every libertarian idea for how to replace public services works.

Tubgirl Cosplay fucked around with this message at 04:03 on Aug 30, 2014

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007

smg77 posted:

Thank goodness. For a minute I was worried we still had unironic libertarians at SA.

we have but one left, kept in a carefully controlled environment over in D&D.

No. 6
Jun 30, 2002

No. 6
Jun 30, 2002

Libertarians are lost and idealistic in a childish way. The same goes for communists. These are systems are fun thought exercises that cannot ever function under human control ever.

Also, LOL.

Modus Operandi
Oct 5, 2010

Tubgirl Cosplay posted:

You pay for a private security company to protect you, and your neighbor does likewise for himself. Now that you've combined the famously honorable fields of mercenary work and protection racket, it is strongly in both of your interests to not be the poor chump stuck with the least well-equipped security service, and since that's largely a function of who's got the most money/membership the biggest and strongest company will rapidly snowball into a monopoly enforcing and arbitrating law over all citizens that totally isn't just an autocratic government because someone else can start up their own garage security racket and get annihilated and probably killed by the entrenched major players at any time.

IOW, literally the same as how every libertarian idea for how to replace public services works.

So the only way to prosper in libertopia is to become a feudal lord and have your own personal private army with serfs to farm your land and upkeep your aquaducts. Then when some competing lord rubs up against the little feifdom I guess the free market is supposed to determine who has rights or you go to war or something.

Libertarianism at its root is basically just protofeudalism.

Fruity Gordo
Aug 5, 2013

Neurotic, Impotent Rage!
At least feudalism had a little bit of noblesse oblige

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

Fruity Gordo posted:

At least feudalism had a little bit of noblesse oblige

oglige to stick their dick in your wife.

Tubgirl Cosplay
Jan 10, 2011

by Ion Helmet
Sure I'm Willy Loman right now but I bet you I'd be a pharaoh in no time if only life suddenly became 10x more brutally competitive

Ghaz
Nov 19, 2004

Fruity Gordo posted:

At least feudalism had a little bit of noblesse oblige

*creates jobs*

*impoverished state dependents too drunk/lazy to fill them*

*reluctantly ships jobs overseas where workers aren't spoiled rotten by welfare/free birth control*

hmmmm makes you think?

Stux
Nov 17, 2006

No. 6 posted:

Libertarians are lost and idealistic in a childish way. The same goes for communists. These are systems are fun thought exercises that cannot ever function under human control ever.

Also, LOL.

actuslly, communism owns

TEAYCHES
Jun 23, 2002

Stux posted:

actuslly, communism owns

same but unironically

Stux
Nov 17, 2006

i wasn't being ironic fucker

Fatkraken
Jun 23, 2005

Fun-time is over.

paranoid randroid posted:

we have but one left, kept in a carefully controlled environment over in D&D.

Much like small pox, it's necessary to keep a live sample in cold storage, since should a major outbreak occur it will give us a head start on developing a cure or vaccine.

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

paranoid randroid posted:

we have but one left, kept in a carefully controlled environment over in D&D.

Who is he? I want to read some psots

Shasta Orange Soda
Apr 25, 2007

Fatkraken posted:

Much like small pox, it's necessary to keep a live sample in cold storage, since should a major outbreak occur it will give us a head start on developing a cure or vaccine.

also like smallpox, most libertarians have really gross skin

de_dust
Jan 21, 2009

she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.
what happened to all the libertarians that used to serious post? i remember loads of them in 2003-06. Did they all get killed in iraq?

Fatkraken
Jun 23, 2005

Fun-time is over.

de_dust posted:

what happened to all the libertarians that used to serious post? i remember loads of them in 2003-06. Did they all get killed in iraq?


wikipedia posted:

In June 2005, Reddit was founded in Medford, Massachusetts by Steve Huffman and Alexis Ohanian, both 22-year-old graduates of the University of Virginia.

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TEAYCHES
Jun 23, 2002

de_dust posted:

what happened to all the libertarians that used to serious post? i remember loads of them in 2003-06. Did they all get killed in iraq?

most became socialists and the rest were driven out

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