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Kajeesus posted:
Don't forget Barriston the Bold goes down from a cheap shot in an apparent effort to advance character development and possible love story for a person who has been grown/trained to have neither a desire for love or personality.
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Kajeesus posted:Plot beat: Daenerys finds out that ruling is a lot harder than conquering, and keeps having to make sacrifices to maintain peace. And then they attack all of a sudden in the last Daenery scene, coming in waves from offscreen like videogame enemies, to give her a reason to flee on the dragon. The show version of Dany's plot was at least as bad as show Dorne, IMHO. In both cases they took something that was convoluted and boring and made it boring and nonsense. I liked what they did to Tyrion, though. gently caress Penny and those endless boat trips. Elias_Maluco fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Dec 16, 2015 |
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Dec 16, 2015 17:11
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The part when they sail through Valyria was pretty cool too, at least pre-Stone Men fight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5hmcbVJLWQ
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Dec 16, 2015 17:22
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God, I had blocked out Stannis burning his daughter alive.
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Dec 16, 2015 17:49
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As bad as Stan murdering Shireen for no good reason was it was probably the second best scene of the entire season. Us book nerds hated it for numerous justified adaptation related reasons, primarily the assassination of Stan's character that is turning him from complicated character to an irredeemable piece of poo poo but many show watchers considered it an emotionally powerful and shocking scene. Most watchers are pretty ok with Stannis being a red herring all along, Book readers obviously have somewhat different expectations.
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Dec 16, 2015 19:01
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Max posted:Like, those moments all seem like they will hopefully be interesting, but the writers of this show (including Dave Hill) have shown that they are not very good at actually doing the beat by beat storytelling that one would hope for. Same for the books, really. (In their case, if they ever do come out, I *am* planning on waiting until someone makes a wiki outline; gently caress me if I'm wading through 1000+ pages of whatever equivalent of 'where do whores go' Martin fixates on for them.)
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Dec 16, 2015 19:16
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lifts cats over head posted:Don't forget Barriston the Bold goes down from a cheap shot in an apparent effort to advance character development and possible love story for a person who has been grown/trained to have neither a desire for love or personality. I'm okay with fleshing out the Unsullied, since them continuing to be emotionless supersoldiers after Dany frees them would be kind of cheap. The romance subplot can just go away though. I also forgot about Brienne up there, because I have no idea what the point of anything she did this season was.
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Dec 16, 2015 19:54
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Kajeesus posted:I'm okay with fleshing out the Unsullied, since them continuing to be emotionless supersoldiers after Dany frees them would be kind of cheap. The romance subplot can just go away though. Dude just wanting to be cuddled was surprisingly deep for the show.
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Dec 16, 2015 19:57
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Kajeesus posted:I also forgot about Brienne up there, because I have no idea what the point of anything she did this season was. And like most of your examples, the idea sounds better than the final product, which mostly consisted of her waiting around for the choice to present itself.
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Dec 16, 2015 20:30
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AtraMorS posted:The point (I think) was about conflicting oaths and promises. Try to protect Sansa, as she had most recently promised, or avenge Renly's death? Like Jaime, she chooses to kill a king who is capable of horrible things, but unlike Jaime, she probably made her choice for the wrong reasons. That's probably what they were going for, but it's not like choosing Stannis over Sansa had any consequences. It's not clear what exactly Brienne was going to do if she saw the lit candle, but she couldn't have done it before Sansa would've been rescued by Theon anyways. I guess next season Sansa could hold it against her?
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Dec 16, 2015 20:43
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Kajeesus posted:Plot beat: Tyrion loses everything and is sold into slavery, but manages to get himself into a position where he could meet Daenerys. This one was actually way better than the books.
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Dec 16, 2015 21:10
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If you liked Book-Tyrion's ADwD storyline, you can have it. I don't want it.
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Dec 16, 2015 21:14
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TK-42-1 posted:Dude just wanting to be cuddled was surprisingly deep for the show. That was a book thing.
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Dec 16, 2015 22:49
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quote:Plot beat: Stannis is forced to sacrifice his daughter. I'm not so sure, Stannis has already killed his brother and considered sacrificing his nephew. There's constant talk of the power in King's Blood and Jon has to send Aemon and Mance Jr away in case Melisandre has any ideas. There's also a nice parallel with Agamemnon. quote:"Edric—" he started. Shireen is like Tommen, Robert Arryn and Stannis himself in that they seem doomed from the start. Her first appearance: quote:"I had bad dreams," Shireen told him. "About the dragons. They were coming to eat me." Stannis' arc is about becoming morally compromised and giving up everything he has for something he doesn't even want because of vague prophecies. It's pretty much just Macbeth even with his (show) wife killing herself. But he thinks he needs to save the world and burning Shireen might do that. He's even aware of his own self-destruction as he explains his vision of a king being burned to death by his own crown (Actually Viserys?) He still has a long way to go before that makes sense for his character since in the sample chapters he tells Massey to rally for his daughter in his place but there's still plenty of time in TWOW. In It For The Tank brought up a good point in that since Stannis is near Winterfell and Shireen is at the Wall, Stannis cannot personally burn her unless she's brought down or he defeats the Boltons and captures Winterfell, then has to sacrifice her to defeat the Others or something. Jon might be assuming Stannis' TWOW role in season 6 by taking Winterfell. It'd also make sense for Mel and Selyse to burn Shireen at the Wall without Stannis' permission, possibly to resurrect Jon but this would take a way a lot of the drama. Shireen burns no matter what happens. I wonder how bad the show Stannis arc would be if they'd cast a worse actor than Stephen Dillane. Rhllor hungers. Ague Proof fucked around with this message at 22:58 on Dec 16, 2015 |
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Dec 16, 2015 22:55
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After Season 5 effectively assassinated the characters and plots from my favorite book series, I have 0 faith in the show runners abilities to pull off this next season. I mean, I guess I'll give the premiere a shot but I highly doubt I'm going to stick through to the end of this season. I'll probably check out on the first Unsullied romance scene or when they cut out more scenes Alfie Allen could have been in.
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Dec 17, 2015 00:55
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Kajeesus posted:I also forgot about Brienne up there, because I have no idea what the point of anything she did this season was. That's OK, as in the books, though she's still looking for Sansa, her chapters don't have much of point either.
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Dec 17, 2015 01:08
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In It For The Tank posted:That was a book thing. Really? I must have missed that. But gently caress rereading that again.
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Dec 17, 2015 02:20
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Jorghnassen posted:That's OK, as in the books, though she's still looking for Sansa, her chapters don't have much of point either. They have a point, youre just incapable of noticing it.
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Dec 17, 2015 02:37
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TK-42-1 posted:Really? I must have missed that. But gently caress rereading that again. Yeah, gently caress rereading the best fantasy series since the lord of the rings. That would be an insane prospect.
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Dec 17, 2015 02:38
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Ague Proof posted:I'm not so sure, Stannis has already killed his brother and considered sacrificing his nephew. There's constant talk of the power in King's Blood and Jon has to send Aemon and Mance Jr away in case Melisandre has any ideas. There's also a nice parallel with Agamemnon. He was saying Stannis becoming willing to sacrifice his daughter seemed unearned and too abrupt, not that he actually thinks there's no way the character would ever have done that.
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Dec 17, 2015 02:46
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Austrian mook posted:Yeah, gently caress rereading the best fantasy series since the lord of the rings. That would be an insane prospect. I've done it twice already. I need to expand my horizons a little.
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Dec 17, 2015 02:48
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TK-42-1 posted:I've done it twice already. I need to expand my horizons a little. Read other books then. Or watch some tv or movies. Play some video games. All media platforma are equal ----------------
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Dec 17, 2015 04:09
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Beeez posted:He was saying Stannis becoming willing to sacrifice his daughter seemed unearned and too abrupt, not that he actually thinks there's no way the character would ever have done that. Yeah, that. Stannis is pretty clearly going to sacrifice Shireen in the books too, but it will be with much higher stakes and probably not decided overnight.
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Dec 17, 2015 05:03
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Austrian mook posted:Yeah, gently caress rereading the best fantasy series since the lord of the rings. That would be an insane prospect.
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Dec 17, 2015 05:10
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Kajeesus posted:I guess next season Sansa could hold it against her? gently caress that, Brienne tried to rescue her the tavern and was blown off. Sansa has no right to hold anything against here.
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Dec 17, 2015 05:45
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:gently caress that, Brienne tried to rescue her the tavern and was blown off. Sansa has no right to hold anything against here. Doesn't mean it can't happen though. Ellaria and the Sand Snakes have zero right to vengeance for Oberyn's death, but they still go for it.
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This season was terrible, the next will be worse. Game of Thrones Season 6 Spoiler Thread.
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