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materialism brings no joy to most who put stock in it and also is as axiomatic a belief as believing there is a god
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Cardiovorax posted:Will you ever stop pretending like there isn't a standard philosophical vocabulary and that we need to define every term we use as if everybody didn't already know exactly what it means? Just curious.
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Spanish Manlove posted:how loving dare you say I lost an argument on the internet this is slander and I will snitch on your gay rear end, bitch
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The goal is not to debate the meaning of free will, it is to investigate the development of its use to learn about ourselves and to untie an unresolvable issue ("is there free will?" and other such poorly-formed "questions," producing poorly-formed "answers"). The issue is meaningless in itself, having meaning only in relation to us and how we use it between ourselves, or misuse it. Another goal is to release ourselves from the false burden of this issue, because it has no transcendent reality.
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nomadologique posted:The goal is not to debate the meaning of free will, it is to investigate the development of its use to learn about ourselves and to untie an unresolvable issue ("is there free will?" and other such poorly-formed "questions," producing poorly-formed "answers"). The issue is meaningless in itself, having meaning only in relation to us and how we use it between ourselves, or misuse it. Another goal is to release ourselves from the false burden of this issue, because it has no transcendent reality. 
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nomadologique posted:The goal is not to debate the meaning of free will, it is to investigate the development of its use to learn about ourselves and to untie an unresolvable issue ("is there free will?" and other such poorly-formed "questions," producing poorly-formed "answers"). The issue is meaningless in itself, having meaning only in relation to us and how we use it between ourselves, or misuse it. Another goal is to release ourselves from the false burden of this issue, because it has no transcendent reality.
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Oct 27, 2014 19:40
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Picasso marks the beginning of modern human consciousness.
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free will does not exist in the capacity claimed to exist by religious liars, but that just means you're stuck as the pr middleman between your physical existence and the outside world, and you most definitely reap what you sow. please don't make terrible nihilistic decisions based on this knowledge you loving reactionary retards, your body and tribe will thank you if you do 'em good
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if you ask an adult who (since learning a language) never learned speech as a kid and was never around people who spoke, and ask them what their life was like or how they made decisions, they cannot answer, that whole memory of their life will only come up as darkness to them, and make them very confused. So I guess the answer to your question op, is consciousness comes inherently with language
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Oct 27, 2014 20:29
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when you're building a frame of reference, you first need a solid foundation or you end up with the mental equivalent of a groverhaus. you need an os to run the apps
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Oct 27, 2014 20:36
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i think when we started attempting medicine is when we truly gained consciousness. that is when we went from just accepting the world around us, to trying to change it to prolong and improve ours and others' existence
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Poetic Justice posted:i think when we started attempting medicine is when we truly gained consciousness. that is when we went from just accepting the world around us, to trying to change it to prolong and improve ours and others' existence
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Oct 27, 2014 20:50
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quakster posted:it says in this 2069 year old book that blood transfusion is satan, vaccines are liquid autism & you shouldn't disagree with god about your asthma, just let it take you
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my apologies, i was holding it upside down. it actually says 6905
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Poetic Justice posted:i think when we started attempting medicine is when we truly gained consciousness. that is when we went from just accepting the world around us, to trying to change it to prolong and improve ours and others' existence Wouldn't that be the moment we started farming?
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The moment we first drew a dong on a rock somewhere
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