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You may not wanna dig into dig for just a sociology assignment. You don't know what you could encounter
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icantfindaname posted:. The picture you have of pretentious dudes citing obscure rules and citations at each other isn't really accurate for probably 80% or more of that subforum Then the Bush years wore on and everyone realized the jobs weren't there and the board shifted leftwards. Suddenly having the most debatingest Fedora went out of style.
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icantfindaname posted:It's not really true at all IMO. Most activity in D&D happens in Nite Crew style chat threads, the idea of there being ideological purges or whatever is as far from the truth as it gets. Basically unless you actively start a fight or you're a literal nazi nobody is going to say a thing. Maybe not even if you are a literal nazi
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Actually McCaine hung around for years after that and occasionally posted newer, more flattering ball-gag nudes in lf. Yet one more reason lf owned.Josef K. Sourdust posted:Yeah, like I said, maybe all forums tend to generate common styles and collective opinions and maybe I just don't enough time on different sites to notice it. "irl" irl? Seriously? I've never been shouted down in an irl discussion. Getting someone yelling mad irl is challenging but its pretty easy to shut down the logical parts of someone's brain. Just talk about guns or healthcare or the environment. Don't make an argument just state simple facts backed up by evidence contradictory to their opinion and prepare to hear lots of arguments against whatever they will assume you believe, strawmen, etc. Small communities like DnD where the same people have known each other for years often begin converging on a consensus, in my opinion because its boring to rehash the same topics over and over. Better to find some common ground and move on to something new. This can contribute to the "suppression" of certain lines of discourse you referred to, and its certainly not a phenomena unique to Dnd, it can be observed in just about any University political club, forum or megathread.
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Scudworth posted:Hahaaa no, LF quickly became the fyad-lite version of D&D, the way YOSPOS is for SH/SC and Imp Zone is for games. Imagine YOSPOS but about politics. Nothing serious went on there, ever. Many threads were just sarcastic mirror versions of active D&D threads. LF posters were probably the most serious of all of the posters. No other subforum has produced as many offsites.
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Feb 22, 2015 20:03
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Everybody wants LF back but knows it should stay dead with a stake in it's heart.
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Feb 23, 2015 01:40
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GBS said we we need to to reachin out and tuchin junk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctcHYrOzIRY
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Feel free to take a look through the SAclopedia http://forums.somethingawful.com/dictionary.php
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Wasn't there already somebody who did a Master's paper on SA? I know there's an article about the forums by sociologist Amy Bruckman, who also wrote an article about using internet communities in into course assignments. OP, is your professor Amy Bruckman? If so, you should know that she tried posting here too, and it ended pretty much like you'd assume. We hate ourselves because we're horrible.
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BoldFrankensteinMir posted:Also there's a front page, that everybody reads! No, there isn't.
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I wrote a paper in Master class (university) with focus on the inherent discipline (and punishment) and rhetorical ethos that makes SA stand out from many other forums. I got a solid A so I was happy. You can have it, but it is in Danish, so I don't know how useful it would be. I suppose you could grasp some meaning with google translate.
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SA is a nice place to post if you want to be cyber-bullied by a bunch of mean ol' jerks.
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Hot Dog Day #82 posted:SA is a nice place to post if you want to be cyber-bullied by a bunch of mean ol' jerks. Quiet you, or we'll pound you.
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Incrediblastic posted:I think one part of the subculture of SA is (sometimes defensively ironic) self-loathing - I mean,there's a sub-forum called E/N about life issues.That says a lot about the people here. I've always wondered how some pretty serious self loathing became such an ingrained part of "forums culture".
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Honestly despite how much goons like to poo poo all over themselves, I'd rather post on SA than places like Neogaf or Facepunch.
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Sinking Ship posted:I've always wondered how some pretty serious self loathing became such an ingrained part of "forums culture". Forums, and this one in particular, have a reputation for being troll pits. It's naive to come into a place like this with your ideals hanging out and be surprised by criticism, yet people do it every day. The tricky part is when a user gets to the place where they know the criticism is coming, but they still think they can out-dance it. That super-determined ego has a classic way to try and jump ahead of the line: self deprecation. One criticizes one's self before anybody else can, and somehow this is "winning" at the criticism game. You avoided taking your licks (kind of) AND proved you could dish 'em out (kind of). But this just reinforces the idea that every edge has to be sharpened, and the troll pit reputation grows. Eventually it becomes systemic:I know people who lost their SA password and are afraid to reclaim it or make a new one, even though those systems are fully automated, just because we have "harsh" messages about logging on/out or making posts. We are known, if at all, for being snarky assholes who respect nothing, least of all ourselves. And that's simultaneously what's so ugly and beautiful about this place. I've given up trying to fully explain to others why I like SA so much, it's such a strange balance, a community you can see real value in and get fantastic input on tech/work/current events from, but also where strangers routinely tell you to kill yourself and go out of their way to make it stick. We make incredible, detailed, even groundbreaking artwork here all the time, and also have psychotic pointless wars with family photos of disfigured children and news footage of atrocities as ammunition. We regularly raise money for charities, independent companies and small artists and we do all this under the banner of a hand grenade. It's a community where the amount of internet-savvy is phenomenal, but the motto is "the internet makes you stupid". The line between "groundbreaking" and "inhumanly monstrous' doesn't even really exist here, which is... weirdly freeing, once you get past the fact that you'll have to take your turn as target of the poo poo cannon now and then. The hotshots turn it on themselves and turn it up to 11, out of a weird sort of prideful shame-off. Or shameful proud-off, it's hard to tell. We love contradictions here, because they confuse people and make giant messes and remind us how much of a clusterfuck everything really is. Self loathing is an admission of weakness used to show strength, so it fits perfectly.
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Sinking Ship posted:I've always wondered how some pretty serious self loathing became such an ingrained part of "forums culture". 90s cynicism and general GenX grunge pessimism maybe?
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FilthyImp posted:90s cynicism and general GenX grunge pessimism maybe? I think part of it too is that ten years ago, the exact opposite was the norm. There was a real "RAH RAH, GOONS ARE THE BEST AT EVERYTHING AND WE'RE ALL SMARTER THAN EVERYONE" sentiment. Now that forums goers on average are older, they kind of look back on that as ridiculous, and have a strong reaction to it vis a vis the excessive pessimism.
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:I think part of it too is that ten years ago, the exact opposite was the norm. There was a real "RAH RAH, GOONS ARE THE BEST AT EVERYTHING AND WE'RE ALL SMARTER THAN EVERYONE" sentiment. Now that forums goers on average are older, they kind of look back on that as ridiculous, and have a strong reaction to it vis a vis the excessive pessimism. Yeah. I wonder if there will be a coming culture clash between Millennials and Gen Xers. I guess it would be funny.
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Most of this site's userbase are millenials. Millenials started in 1981 remember
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icantfindaname posted:Most of this site's userbase are millenials. Millenials started in 1981 remember Except for the few of us that are almost 50.
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Scudworth posted:This is what happens when you ask goons to describe "SA culture" to outsiders who don't want to just lurk more: In dying
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icantfindaname posted:SA is a place for nerds who hate themselves and all other nerds and have made it their life's mission to show everyone how cool and totally normal they are to gather
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It's wild to think that it was ten (almost) years ago that Lowtax made a presentation at the University of Illinois. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Gvo1uWAhHc I recommend you watch it if you like horses. Or want some information about the early about the forums - your freaking eyes, your freaking call.
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Sinking Ship posted:I've always wondered how some pretty serious self loathing became such an ingrained part of "forums culture". I always like to describe SA as the place where the internet taught its self loathing.
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SA is a philosophy- use the web extensively, but never lose sight of how ignorant and lovely and purile it is.The internet makes you stupid 
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