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Shadoer
Aug 31, 2011


Zoe Quinn is one of many women targeted by the Gamergate harassment campaign.

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My Q-Face posted:

Where? The one I saw on the USS Liberty incident was on AJE, a network that is still largely shunned (and is actually the target of a vicious defamation campaign that I caught one news analyst in the military trying to propagate thanks to the diversionary site http://www.aljazeerah.info/ ). .

Really? Cause like "The Gatekeeprs" & "5 Broken Cameras" from 2013 were made by Israelis and portrayed the government there in rather unflattering ways and were even nominated for Oscars in the United States. The BBC has had a few documentaries about the Israeli lobby and the conflict which basically showed the Israeli government as pretty poo poo.

I guess you are looking for American made documentaries and shows about how Israel isn't all that great... which there's a lot of. "The Great Challenge: Israel", "APIAC: The israeli Lobby", "The Day Israel Attacked America", ect all were put out in 2014.

Heck there's even a movement call JStreet in the United States that's been gathering steam which amounts to "I like Jews, but think Israel is horrible" lobby.

My Q-Face posted:

First, there's the issue of sitting congressmen swearing allegiance to Bibi Netanyahu in defiance of our own sitting President, based on the whole "He who stands with Israel in the end times will be spared God's Wrath".

WTF are you talking about? I think the amount of tin foil you have wrapped around your head is causing you some serious issues.


My Q-Face posted:

Then there's the fact that no congressman who wants to be reelected will dare say anything critical of the nation-state of Israel, lest they lose AIPAC money and be labelled racist, Anti-semitic hate-mongers.

Err there's been a bunch of congressmen that have been critical of Israel.

My Q-Face posted:

Then, there's the great lie that California and Hollywood are some kind of great modern Sodom and Gomorrah, slagging off the rest of the country and thumbing its nose at traditional American Values, while putting out all kinds of filth in Music, TV and Movies. Nevermind that a close examination of the morality of Hollywood movies shows that's where most Americans get their concept of "Classic American Nuclear Family Values" and "Just World Theory". Never Mind that a close examination of the numbers and spread of churches in Southern California easily matches the Bible Belt, and the sheer number of Christian radio stations just within 100 miles of LA area is shockingly more than Virginia, Georgia and the Carolinas combined. Also never mind that California is our most educated, liberal, progressive, innovative, industrious, and believe it or not, most patriotic state (Los Angeles County (Not SB/Orange/etc. Just LA County) is the #1 county in the country for US Military recruits who actually complete Basic/AIT/their whole enlistment, outpacing the next highest county by 50%. California counties make up 4 of the top 10 counties for US Military recruits, and the state is home to more veterans than any other.)

Then there's the whole Zionist/Apocalypse propaganda that has painted anyone not aligned with Zionist Jew/Apocalyptic Christian as evil, and it started at least as early as Charleton Heston beating his chest as Moses in The Ten American Values, striking back against Nebulous-European-Accented Yul Brynner as the man refusing to free the freedom loving Hebrewricans. This was followed by the frequent casting of villains with British accents (The British Accent being associated with being erudite and educated, not to mention critical thinking and seeing multiple perspectives). This marked a moving away from the snooty, educated pre-cold-war English-accented heroes like Cary Grant, David Niven, Basil Rathbone, Errol Flynn, and others, and moving towards the down-homey heartland simpletons like John Wayne, Kirk Douglas, Robert Mitchum and others.

Never mind the demonification of The Arab since 1973. (It's a good thing they made Lawrence of Arabia when they did, they'd have never gotten away with it after 73)

And don't try to downplay the effect of movies, TV and control of the major news outlets on the national consciousness: Jack Bauer was cited by a Supreme Court Justice in defense of torture (Of Arab Terrorists with Nuclear Weapons)

Someone's been reading a bunch of global research bulshii.

My Q-Face posted:

Europe's a pretty big place, so where are you talking about? :belarus: or :britain: ?
:spain: or :sweden: ?
:geert: or :denmark: ?
:italy: or :eurovision: ?

Access to higher education is one of the key indicators of class mobility. Western, Central and Northern Europe offer free or very inexpensive higher education without regard to the student's family's ability to pay, while the US is trying its damnedest to move that out of reach through tuition hikes and by flooding the market with BS schools (University of Phoenix, lol!) and degrees (gender studies, lol!) to dilute the effect.

Generally in studies the top 5 countries for class mobility are Denmark, Norway, Finland, Canada & Germany for many of the reasons you've listed.

The United States comes in behind competing for the 6th spot with Sweden and Britain generally.

Then I believe comes the rest, specifically Japan, France, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Poland, Russia, and so on and so on which are crap for social mobility.

So you're right, the United States isn't #1 or in the top 5, it's just in the top 10 and still ahead of most of Europe and the industrialized world.

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Bro Dad
Mar 26, 2010


any complaining about america is just sour grapes at being a glorified imperial protectorate

which you think the people on this site would be okay with :shobon:

My Q-Face
Jul 8, 2002

A dumb racist who need to kill themselves

Shadoer posted:

Really? Cause like "The Gatekeeprs" & "5 Broken Cameras" from 2013 were made by Israelis and portrayed the government there in rather unflattering ways and were even nominated for Oscars in the United States. The BBC has had a few documentaries about the Israeli lobby and the conflict which basically showed the Israeli government as pretty poo poo.

I guess you are looking for American made documentaries and shows about how Israel isn't all that great... which there's a lot of. "The Great Challenge: Israel", "APIAC: The israeli Lobby", "The Day Israel Attacked America", ect all were put out in 2014.

The Day Israel Attacked America is the one I was talking about. It was out on Al Jazeera English, and the BBC is not Mainstream US. BBCA isn't in the habit of showing serious political documentaries. I haven't seen or heard of the others, which is why I asked where.

quote:

WTF are you talking about? I think the amount of tin foil you have wrapped around your head is causing you some serious issues.


http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/2014/12/27/senator-lindsey-graham-meeting-in-israel-with-pm-netanyahu-click-for-transcript/

Senator Lindsey Graham to Netanyahu: Congress will actively hamper the US Diplomatic effort with Iran and sabotage US Foreign Policy if you say so.

Also, while most of that was just me BSing and observing trends in movies over time -the observation about the California and Gomorrah propaganda holds, that's probably more to do with the post Civil Rights southern strategy than anything to do with Zionism- tell me that The Ten Commandments wasn't pure propaganda meant to make Americans feel 2-dimensional solidarity with the freedom loving peoples of Israel while Charlton Heston stood there as Moses spouting off Traditional American Values platitudes against Communism and socialist Europe.

Freestyle
Sep 2, 2014

by R. Guyovich

Shadoer posted:

All the Princeton study shows is that the privileges of the wealthy are entrenched and past attempts at mobilizing against these interests usually fail, hence why the United States operates like an oligarchy. However this has more to do with the power of mass media to mobilize people and the money needed to do it as opposed to legislation in the system which disenfranchises people. While this does suck, at the moment there's nothing really oppressive about it.
Look at this slick shyster trying to put some mad spin on a study which clearly concludes, with no ambiguity: "Using data drawn from over 1,800 different policy initiatives from 1981 to 2002, the two conclude that rich, well-connected individuals on the political scene now steer the direction of the country, regardless of or even against the will of the majority of voters." Basically, the rich are writing our laws, in such a way as to benefit them, to the detriment of 90% of the population.

What are you, a Republican PR firm intern or something?

RonMexicosPitbull
Feb 28, 2012

by Ralp

Freestyle posted:

Look at this slick shyster trying to put some mad spin on a study which clearly concludes, with no ambiguity: "Using data drawn from over 1,800 different policy initiatives from 1981 to 2002, the two conclude that rich, well-connected individuals on the political scene now steer the direction of the country, regardless of or even against the will of the majority of voters." Basically, the rich are writing our laws, in such a way as to benefit them, to the detriment of 90% of the population.

What are you, a Republican PR firm intern or something?

no just someone with two neurons to rub together and a basic understanding of cause and effect

satanic splash-back
Jan 28, 2009

Freestyle posted:

Look at this slick shyster trying to put some mad spin on a study which clearly concludes, with no ambiguity: "Using data drawn from over 1,800 different policy initiatives from 1981 to 2002, the two conclude that rich, well-connected individuals on the political scene now steer the direction of the country, regardless of or even against the will of the majority of voters." Basically, the rich are writing our laws, in such a way as to benefit them, to the detriment of 90% of the population.

What are you, a Republican PR firm intern or something?

lmao arguing with ronmexico, youre loving retarded

the worst thing is
Oct 3, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

satanic splash-back posted:

lmao arguing with ronmexico, youre loving retarded

looks like the OP but i don't have my troll glasses on

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Freestyle
Sep 2, 2014

by R. Guyovich

Shadoer posted:

Really? The majority of Americans are subsisting on a diet of bushmeat and bbq rat? People aren't allowed to speak their mind in America because they risk getting beaten and shot? Poor people are denied basic rights like a free attorney ? Anyone wanting to run in an election that isn't part of the elite is jailed, beaten, and possibly shot?

Yup sure sounds like the United States.

Let's see what you wrote:

[*] Only the 0.001% of the population is allowed to enjoy the sweet sweet oil revenue.
-Same as in USA

[*] Free speech? Only President Obiang knows which words are good and which ones are those spoken by the devil.
-This is the 1 of 4 we do ok on.

[*] Poor people don't need rights. If they did, they wouldn't be poor.
Then you add: "Poor people are denied basic rights like a free attorney ?"
-Lmao at those free attorneys. Pretty worthless. The rich get away with murder, corruption, fraud etc on a daily basis, while the poor go to jail for 10 to 25 years for a bag of weed. But, hey same basic rights, I guess, except it only works on paper and not in reality.

[*] Anyone plotting a coup is jailed... or if they are suspected... or if they are a foreigner with shifty eyes but that means they must be deported.
-How is this one any different than the USA? Start plotting a coup, I dare you. I give you a week before Obama drones your rear end. And we deport plenty of shifty eyed foreigners. Do you live in a bubble? The White Suburban Teen thread is over there, fella.

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