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Tiresias2
May 31, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

Fojar38 posted:

socrates was plato's mary sue self insert and that is why he is always arguing against strawmen and owning everyone in the dialogues

In Sophist he decides that a cooler mary sue would be a "nameless stranger" and then decides to diss on Socrates. Dissing on Socrates was at the very least already anticipated in Theatetus though, but that's considered as, like, the Sophist prequel. Long story short, in Theatetus Socrates is only capable of creating "abortions", or "aborting" other people's ideas. (His mother was a midwife, he laments, given how he only destroys other people's ideas, that he's no good at it). In Sophist the nameless stranger, without explicitly calling him out, basically says that Socrates is a sophist who admits that he knows nothing, as opposed to the nameless stranger a.k.a. Plato who knows everything. See the very last pages of both those dialogues.

Tiresias2 fucked around with this message at 15:49 on Feb 25, 2015

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Tiresias2
May 31, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

Wicker Man posted:

He was a fatty hater. Dude put forth the idea that if you never get in good shape while you can, you're worthless.

According to Diogenes of Prusa, Diogenes of Sinope (the guy who Alexander wanted to be) thought fat people should be fed to the wolves.

Wicker Man
Sep 5, 2007

Just like Columbus...


Clapping Larry

lilljonas posted:

He should be the patron saint of the Swole thread.





Even if these quotes are attributed to him instead of being truly written down somewhere, they are still good.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Simstim posted:

socrates was the world's first debate troll, it is why the athenians finally killed him. banned from life

he started the 'just asking questions' trolling technique

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

Reporting for shovel mission Sir.

Lawman 0 posted:

fucker have u even heard of Diogenes?

Diogenes might be a bigger autist, but there's no more influential troll in history than Socrates. He's got a whole method named after him!

Absolute Lithops
Aug 28, 2011

After one long season
of waiting, after one
long season of wanting

Smeego posted:

socrates also warned others to not pursue women. socrates may be the earliest goon on record
Gaatrek

AutoSnakes
Apr 29, 2009

Not_Rainbow_Horse posted:

he was pretty gay

Not only gay, but Socrates got laid like crazy. That's more or less why there were so many haters: Socrates got first pick on all the choicest, young (male) trim.

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BULBASAUR
Apr 6, 2009




Soiled Meat
dis is a good thread, thanks for reading

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