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FactsAreUseless posted:Can we talk about how Blood on the Tracks is basically a perfect album? It's the only album I can get into. There is some tracks here and there that I like but BOTT is great from start to finish.
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Wengy posted:Interesting, I'd always preferred Infidels, maybe I'll have to give Shot of Love another chance. Out of all the Christian albums I guess I still like Slow Train Coming the best, so awesome. It and Infidels are of course both helped by Knopfler on guitar... I guess what I'm getting at is that Infidels is overrated in the same way the gospel albums are underrated, due to being perceived as the end of his "Christian period", although the Christian influence is very much still there
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Barry Shitpeas posted:I guess what I'm getting at is that Infidels is overrated in the same way the gospel albums are underrated, due to being perceived as the end of his "Christian period", although the Christian influence is very much still there Infidels is really good and has one of his best backing bands out of a lot of great backing bands. It sounded modern for the time, which Saved and Shot didn't, and still sounds really clean if kinda dated. There's a reason it was pretty well received.
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BigFactory posted:Infidels is really good and has one of his best backing bands out of a lot of great backing bands. It sounded modern for the time, which Saved and Shot didn't, and still sounds really clean if kinda dated. There's a reason it was pretty well received. It's very good indeed, but it's let down by some of the lyrics which kind of border on insane ramblings. Wengy fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Apr 23, 2015 |
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Apr 23, 2015 16:29
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Wengy posted:It's very good indeed, but it's let down by some of the lyrics which kind of border on insane ramblings. Neighborhood Bully and Union Sundown are kind of throwaway songs but lots of great albums have a couple of stinkers. At least those two have a good beat. Unless I missed something and people were saying infidels is as good as highway 61 or something.
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Apr 23, 2015 16:50
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Can't look up the lyrics in detail, but IIRC there's a couple of weird lines about the sinful nature of space travel (???), some strange potshots against the unions ("dinosaurs") in a song that's criticizing capitalism (???), and then there's that cringe-worthy pro-Israel song. Dunno, it just seems muddled and all over the place lyrically. Musically, I think it's easily his second-strongest album of the 80s (though that's not saying much), and better than his most recent stuff (Together through life or Tempest).
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Apr 23, 2015 17:21
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And hell, if he weren't insane he'd have included Blind Willie which would automatically make Infidels 700 times more awesome
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Apr 23, 2015 17:24
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Wengy posted:Can't look up the lyrics in detail, but IIRC there's a couple of weird lines about the sinful nature of space travel (???), some strange potshots against the unions ("dinosaurs") in a song that's criticizing capitalism (???), and then there's that cringe-worthy pro-Israel song. Dunno, it just seems muddled and all over the place lyrically. Musically, I think it's easily his second-strongest album of the 80s (though that's not saying much), and better than his most recent stuff (Together through life or Tempest). Tempest rules
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Apr 23, 2015 18:07
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Wengy posted:Can't look up the lyrics in detail, but IIRC there's a couple of weird lines about the sinful nature of space travel (???), some strange potshots against the unions ("dinosaurs") in a song that's criticizing capitalism (???), and then there's that cringe-worthy pro-Israel song. Dunno, it just seems muddled and all over the place lyrically. Musically, I think it's easily his second-strongest album of the 80s (though that's not saying much), and better than his most recent stuff (Together through life or Tempest). Yeah, but come on, Don't Fall Apart on Me Tonight? That's a brilliant song. I love the weird apocalyptic imagery in the first verse. And even the chorus. It's just a great sentiment. I will say the Aaron Neville version is better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHXHHssqMt8
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Apr 24, 2015 00:58
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Don't fall apart on me tonight is amazing. Replace Union Sundown and Neighborhood Bully with Blind Willie McTell and Foot of Pride and boom, Infidels is a top 5 Dylan record for sure.
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Apr 24, 2015 11:04
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Speaking of Infidels, there's a bunch of really great outtakes and alternative takes here: http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=322
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May 5, 2015 22:57
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I'm sorry to bump this, but as far as I can see, this is the only Bob Dylan thread. I've been listening to Blood on the Tracks on the thread's recommendation, and gotta say, I love it. Idiot Wind is basically Like a Rolling Stone 2.0, this time also blaming himself for having been a fool instead of spending the entire song trashing the girl (although he still does that). It's amazing how much, but also how little, he changed from 65 to 75.
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Jul 1, 2015 03:14
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Idiot Wind is a towering achievement, and far and away his best song.
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zh1 posted:Idiot Wind is a towering achievement, and far and away his best song.
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Don't Fall Apart on Me Tonight is a perfect song. It's the best song on the album Infidels, and only would have been toppled by Blind Willie McTell had it made it on the album. I'm putting this statement out there, and I'm sticking to it. Sweetheart Like You is close.
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Jul 7, 2015 02:53
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Both good songs but I and I is the best song on infidels
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Is Street-Legal considered one of his "Christian period" albums? I ask because while I think that the record as a whole is pretty weak, Senor (Tales of Yankee Power) is probably one of his most underrated songs.
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Gologle posted:I'm sorry to bump this, but as far as I can see, this is the only Bob Dylan thread. I've been listening to Blood on the Tracks on the thread's recommendation, and gotta say, I love it. Idiot Wind is basically Like a Rolling Stone 2.0, this time also blaming himself for having been a fool instead of spending the entire song trashing the girl (although he still does that). It's amazing how much, but also how little, he changed from 65 to 75. Also, I totally agree with this observation here (Idiot Wind being a more mature sequel to Like a Rolling Stone). That said, my favorite reading of Like a Rolling Stone is that it's a kiss-off not to an ex-lover, but to the whole notion of wholesome American innocence. When seen in that light, the song becomes almost triumphant. "When you ain't got nothing you got nothin' to lose" -- the country has been stripped of its myths and illusions, so now the real work can begin.
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Falstaff Infection posted:Is Street-Legal considered one of his "Christian period" albums? I ask because while I think that the record as a whole is pretty weak, Senor (Tales of Yankee Power) is probably one of his most underrated songs. He started hanging out with T Bone Burnett during the rolling thunder revue tour and he was probably going to that church in and around when he was writing street legal (which I think was recorded in LA so that makes sense too), but Slow Train Coming is his first born again record. Street legal isn't weak though, lots of good stuff there.
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BigFactory posted:He started hanging out with T Bone Burnett during the rolling thunder revue tour and he was probably going to that church in and around when he was writing street legal (which I think was recorded in LA so that makes sense too), but Slow Train Coming is his first born again record. Street legal isn't weak though, lots of good stuff there. It's just always felt a bit over-produced to me, what with all the background singers and songs with like 2-3 instrumental solos each. I kind of analogize it to Leonard Cohen's I'm Your Man-- it's an interesting and ambitious departure from an artist's expected form and it's got a few killer tracks, but overall it's just too much and it descends into self-parody pretty frequently.
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I'm your man is really good too, but if you listen to desire and street legal back to back they're not that different. Street legal is more coked out for sure but not much more.
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That may be, but for whatever reason Desire just feels a lot more restrained to me, violin or no violin. Although I have to say that as much as I dig Hurricane, it's got some pretty dumb lyrics and forced rhymes ("you don't wanna have to go to jail / be a nice fellow" ; "and took him to the infirmary and though this man could hardly see / the told him he was the one who could ID the guilty man.") To bring the thread all back home, so to speak, I'd say my favorite early 60s Dylan album is Blonde on Blonde. It strikes that perfect Dylan balance between being super cool and just a little bit aloof while somehow also being completely emotionally raw. It helps that Visions of Johanna is probably his best "epic surrealism" song.
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Jul 11, 2015 00:32
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Most of the Time is a good song.
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Jul 11, 2015 07:18
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Sweetheart like you is a fantastic song and it features one of Mick Taylor's best solos. I suck terribly at playing the guitar but I just had to learn it it's so good.
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http://bobdylan.com/on-tour/ New album and tour this summer. Mavis Staples in support on the US leg. According to Pitchfork the record is called Fallen Angels. I guess this is still the de facto Dylan thread, so bump. I haven't seen him since before Tempest, so I should probably hit a couple of these this summer. He's gonna die one of these days. Edit: New record is going to be more standards in the vein of Shadows in the Night. Sounds like it's all songs from Sinatra's repertoire. It comes out May 20th, with a 4 song ep for Record Store Day. BigFactory fucked around with this message at 15:15 on Mar 9, 2016 |
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Happy 75th birthday Bob.
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The Current is going to have a six hour marathon where they play 75 of his songs. Will also go over stories among other things. Can be heard online by going to http://www.thecurrent.org/local at noon central time.
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My 4 year old's favorite bob dylan songs are in order: 1. When the ship comes in 2. Talkin' Bear Mountain Picnic massacre blues 3. Don't think twice it's all right 4. Man gave names to all the animals 5. TIE Mr. Tambourine man/It's All Over Now Baby Blue We're going to bake a cake and throw a party tonight.
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