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Tell me about it. I dropped $50 on the project... I don't feel duped or anything, though I do feel disappointed.
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Just watched Mr Arkadin for the first time, the version available on Hulu, and have to say I thoroughly enjoyed it. The main character was very uneven, but that was ok - the plethora of fascinating and intriguing side characters more than made up for it. I'm really pacing myself on finishing the Welles filmography, as the thought of having a new Welles film to look forward to is something I don't want to leave me. I have Ambersons, Chimes at Midnight, Filming Othello and The Immortal Story.
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Nov 8, 2015 00:00
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What I love about Mr. Arkadin, besides the production history that is absolutely bizarre and convoluted even for an Orson Welles film, is that the atmosphere throughout the film is just weirdly creepy. I just love the weird costume party, the big castle, and the weird noirish snowy look in the beginning and end of the film. So fun.
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Nov 8, 2015 00:38
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Raxivace posted:What I love about Mr. Arkadin, besides the production history that is absolutely bizarre and convoluted even for an Orson Welles film, is that the atmosphere throughout the film is just weirdly creepy. I just love the weird costume party, the big castle, and the weird noirish snowy look in the beginning and end of the film. I haven't gotten around to this, but I found out about it from the very, very awesome Lives of Harry Lime radio drama that basically did this story first but with Harry Lime. If you love The Third Man (who doesn't), it's well worth a listen. Most of the shows are on the Internet Archive, though the audio quality varies from episode to episode. It's pulpier and Lime is more of a lovable rogue than in the film, but drat if it isn't some of the best Orson Welles radio out there.
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Nov 9, 2015 00:25
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It's actually three separate Lives of Harry Lime episodes that form the basis for the film- "Man of Mystery", which is what Meatwad describes, as well as "Blackmail is a Nasty Word" and "Murder on the Riviera". The movie also loosely contains elements from the actual film version of The Third Man and even Citizen Kane. The mysterious novelized version also has an Othello reference or two, making the whole project a kind of weird summation of Welles' career up until 1955.
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Nov 9, 2015 00:38
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Netflix might be ponying up money to finish Other Side of the Wind http://www.wellesnet.com/netflix-in-talks-to-complete-distribute-the-other-side-of-the-wind/ . I hope something finally happens with this, I donated to their crowdfunding campaign.
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Apr 6, 2016 17:06
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I hope so. I dropped $50 on the campaign myself and it's been disappointing, to say the least, to not have heard anything at all from them in months.
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Apr 6, 2016 17:35
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It's quite remarkable how this film has been screwed over at pretty much every turn. Once they get Beatrice on board, then Oja starts causing issues. Isn't Peter Bogdanovich pretty much the main source who "knows" how the film should be edited? I picture him dying once Netflix inks an agreement.
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Apr 6, 2016 18:09
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How much remains to be done? I can't ever get a handle on exactly what state the film is in at the moment. And isn't the whole project basically at the mercy of PB as there is nothing in Welles's hand about the final cut? How can anyone gainsay PB's version as there are no other authorities on the editing TOSOTW?
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Apr 6, 2016 23:52
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I'm not sure editing even ever actually started this time around to be honest, beyond the fifty or so minutes Welles actually was able to do himself back before he died. I thought Welles actually left some notes behind on how we wanted the film to be edited too? Is that not right?
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Apr 6, 2016 23:58
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I thought it was a PB book/interview with Welles that was the main source for Welles's ideas for the film. But maybe I don't remember correctly. I'm not saying PB is unreliable just that it is a little hard to verify PB's ideas (unless someone has copied/reproduced Welles's notes). TBH I'd rather have PB's version of the film than no version at all. After all, if you like Welles's films you get kind of used to outside influences.
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Apr 7, 2016 00:12
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Hell, I watched the weird Don Quixote edit that was pretty much a complete mess. PB's edit of OSOTW can't be that bad.
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Apr 7, 2016 03:49
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Coincidentally the producers on TOSOTW have spoken out today in an email they sent to contributors. Welles.net was also kind enough to share it.Filip posted:Dear Contributors, Not sure how I feel about this email.
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Apr 7, 2016 23:42
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According to Criterion Forum, there's a special edition Blu of Macbeth coming soon from Olive Films with both the restored and theatrical cuts, commentary by Joseph McBride, and a booklet. The current release is bare bones and only the restored cut.
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Egbert Souse posted:According to Criterion Forum, there's a special edition Blu of Macbeth coming soon from Olive Films with both the restored and theatrical cuts, commentary by Joseph McBride, and a booklet. The current release is bare bones and only the restored cut.
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