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Seeing it tucked away deep in the underground carpark is still an exciting experience. The aero pieces add to the car's silhouette and it gives me goosebumps every time I look at it. Kimbo is right in that the car is physically small, but so too are most other supercars, and the presence it has places it firmly in the company of the greats. Speaking of torque, rather than straining to redline like small displacement engines, it just rips right to the fuel cut like there's nothing holding the engine back. Going from a fuel cut of 8750 to 6400 was a weird experience, despite the tall gearing I bounced off the limiter frequently in the black car and had to recalibrate my shift timing. You could put that engine in a large motorhome and drive it around with ease.
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I built up a Viper TA 2.0 in Forza 6 with slicks and twin turbo chargers. To say it wants to kill you even in third gear is an understatement.
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Today's Blipshift shirt seems like a good match for you, DV.
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*Googles to see if the ACR is in fact classed as A Street Prepared for autocross*
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Ether Frenzy posted:Today's Blipshift shirt seems like a good match for you, DV. Awesome, bought 2. I always forget to check Blipshift...
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How are you liking the Charger so far? More specifically the engine/drive etc. My wife and I are done with my Speed3. She can't drive a stick and I've had issues with the car since I bought it. I never really considered a Dodge initially but I gave it a look when we started defining what we want in a new car. Auto, 4 Door, Fizzys in the penis area and the Charger seems like it might fit that criteria. The SRT in particular as she can get all the niceties and I can get a very quick large car. I just then think about spending $50k on a Charger and wonder if the 6.4L is worth it with so many other options in the price range. TheFonz fucked around with this message at 09:38 on Jan 17, 2016 |
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TheFonz posted:How are you liking the Charger so far? More specifically the engine/drive etc. My wife and I are done with my Speed3. She can't drive a stick and I've had issues with the car since I bought it. I love it so far, and you don't have to drop $50K on the SRT to get a whole lot of awesome. Keep in mind that I was a huge BMW guy for a long time too, my opinion was not easily swayed. The 6.4L is the 392 Hemi motor, same as the one in the SRT, only the MSRP of the Scat Pack is $11K less. They nailed everything in the car - the electric power steering is adjustable and feels excellent. The transmission can be lazy and docile or aggressive as hell, it will do engine braking and avoids automatic creep. The paddle shifting is awesome too, and it's fairly clear it was designed to please people who generally hate automatics. The suspension and brakes are excellent as well, the shocks are Bilstein units so the ride is good but still sporty, and the brakes are 4-pot Brembos that have plenty of stopping power. For a car this big, it performs exceptionally well. Then there's the engine, which has cylinder deactivation and gets 27MPG on the highway. I'm saving the best for last here though, it makes the most satisfying sounds and a shitton of power - it gets you moving right now. The exhaust system is a dual mode, and stays quiet most of the time in the Normal setting but in Sport, the valves are open all the time. Beautiful mandrel bends feed an X-pipe and you end up with this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_PCaKvmgzM Back to the price - this car cost $42.5K optioned with the stuff in the sticker below. That's invoice pricing because I'm friends with the guy who owns the dealership, but that isn't terribly hard to get if you work at it. It can be optioned all the way up to having lane departure assist, radar cruise, for 45K you're basically getting a half priced M5 / E63 AMG. You don't need to buy the SRT model to get all the toys, I think that car is best suited for the person who really wants an all-in-one, and they're liable to be slightly dissatisfied because, like all super sedans, the car is heavy and there's no getting around it. However you might find one or two out there with big discounts (because the Scat Pack is so good) but I wouldn't turn down either one of them.  The Viper club got Ralph Gilles to come talk to a handful of us over drinks in San Francisco a month ago, and at the time I was asking him why there wasn't a Dart SRT. He said that he'd love to have the resources to build that car, but there just wasn't a market for it. After I bought this though, I shot him an email raving about it and this was his response: quote:Yeah we have been doing really well with the ScatPack Chargers. Selling all we can make! Das Volk fucked around with this message at 10:59 on Jan 17, 2016 |
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Were you able to get the same forever warranty with the Charger that you got on the Viper? I've always discounted the Charger, but after seeing Kimbo's cop car and this one, I can see having one somewhere down the depreciation road.
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Das Volk posted:Good Stuff Thanks for the response DV. I've done a bit of reading on this and I guess I didn't realize all the options you could get with the Scat Pack. I knew the wife would want heated seats and all the drive assist gadgets so that is why I was looking at the SRTs, but I'm glad you said that since now I've looked at some inventory and there are some well optioned Scat Packs at lower prices than SRTs start at. It helps too living in the snowy north that prices seem marked down: http://www.coonrapidschrysler.net/new/Dodge/2016-Dodge-Charger-Minneapolis-017f518b0a0e0adf42d49e9b4935b24b.htm
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meatpimp posted:Were you able to get the same forever warranty with the Charger that you got on the Viper? I can, but I haven't decided yet. There is quite a bit of tech in this car, and I have no idea how reliable these are. I have to think that the drivetrain is well established, and the uconnect module as well. I'll probably do some reading on them before I make up my mind. TheFonz posted:Thanks for the response DV. I've done a bit of reading on this and I guess I didn't realize all the options you could get with the Scat Pack. I knew the wife would want heated seats and all the drive assist gadgets so that is why I was looking at the SRTs, but I'm glad you said that since now I've looked at some inventory and there are some well optioned Scat Packs at lower prices than SRTs start at. That's a great deal! The LSD works great in the snow too.
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From the why-the-hell-not deparment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kz27fQ05eA
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That s quite a quick hop from uhhhh 5mph to 11mph. Looking forward to seeing what the scat pack does at Laguna
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Das Volk posted:I'm saving the best for last here though, it makes the most satisfying sounds and a shitton of power - it gets you moving right now. I haven't really even driven it in Sport mode for real yet. The above is still true.  Awful photo of a pretty car.
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Das Volk, you didn't happen to drive through the Palm Springs area today, did you? I thought I saw your Viper but it was dark and you were heading the other way. There can't be many in that shade of blue...
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I still giggle at the term "scat pack" Probably have to rename that for the Aus market if it ever comes here, scat means something very different down under
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Ferremit posted:I still giggle at the term "scat pack" Yes, it means feces here too. It's Greek, actually.
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It's used a bit more here too- I'm not sure how well a dodge poo poo pack would sell to be honest
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El Jebus posted:Das Volk, you didn't happen to drive through the Palm Springs area today, did you? I thought I saw your Viper but it was dark and you were heading the other way. There can't be many in that shade of blue... Sadly I haven't been in LA in my own car for 4 or 5 years now. Ferremit posted:I still giggle at the term "scat pack" I guarantee no one under the age of 40 thinks it refers to a musical style. The Germans could always have ScheißPack.
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Poop Group. Thanks, whoever coined that.
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Apparently they issued a recall for oil contamination that could have caused engine failure?: http://driveviper.com/forums/threads/12394-Gen-V-2013-2015-oil-consumption-RECALLS-R28-amp-R29/ If I'd known this was coming, I'd have been very tempted to keep the Viper and throw in Viper Exchange's electronic suspension package.
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Yeah, I got it in the mail recently. I didn't realize that oil contamination was new longblock time. It seems OK but I hope to christ it doesn't mean another motor. I'll get this done before I track it again.
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Is this a different thing to the bad #8 cylinder? Like they revised the build process or parts but ended up with another bad problem?
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kimbo305 posted:Is this a different thing to the bad #8 cylinder? Like they revised the build process or parts but ended up with another bad problem? I don't know - it happened 3 times including mine, at the local shop. That may simply be where the weak spot is on that engine. It's not too late! 
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Keeping this out of the archives. Not much has changed, getting way more traffic for the hillclimb this year. We're almost full now, which hasn't happened since the 90s. I got the recall work done to replace the valve cover and change the crankcase vent, which is the source of sudden oil loss on the motors. Kind of amazing such a simple thing could cause so many issues, but then a problem description of "part throttle high-G right hand turn" isn't exactly easy to chase down when you sell a car that runs a higher than average risk of abuse by its owners. That opening pointing down and the windage tray were apparently the design flaw.   I got that done so I could do this, which is all the reason anyone ever needs to own this car: 
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Compelling reason
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That color is officially called "Boner Blue" in the updated spec sheets.
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