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Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Necc0 posted:

spy satellites do not work like you think they do

hope this help

how do they work? Surely there's at least 1 satellite over the pacific ocean at any given time that can snap a photo and get it to you within minutes

if not what the gently caress is the NSA so proud of with its 'octopus devouring the globe' insignias for the satellites?

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Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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best way to defeat china is actually ironically sanctions

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Moridin920 posted:

how do they work? Surely there's at least 1 satellite over the pacific ocean at any given time that can snap a photo and get it to you within minutes

if not what the gently caress is the NSA so proud of with its 'octopus devouring the globe' insignias for the satellites?

1. the satellite still has to locate them which takes time

2. in the time it takes for it to snap a picture, beam it back to base, have that picture analyzed, have the coordinates sent to the missile people, have the missile launch and physically travel to the location where the ships were in the picture the ships will be long gone

General Tofu
Nov 20, 2014

by Lowtax
That guy just traded a fish for the exact same fish!

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Fojar38 posted:

2. in the time it takes for it to snap a picture, beam it back to base, have that picture analyzed, have the coordinates sent to the missile people, have the missile launch and physically travel to the location where the ships were in the picture the ships will be long gone

drat sounds like the whole system kind of blows then, why aren't we launching kinetic weapons from space already?

Flo Cytometer
Apr 20, 2015

by Ralp

Moridin920 posted:

drat sounds like the whole system kind of blows then, why aren't we launching kinetic weapons from space already?

because we can't watch them fast enough jeez pay attention next time!

Arkanomen
May 6, 2007

All he wants is a hug

General Tofu posted:

That guy just traded a fish for the exact same fish!

They're just passing it back and forth!

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

Moridin920 posted:

how do they work? Surely there's at least 1 satellite over the pacific ocean at any given time that can snap a photo and get it to you within minutes

if not what the gently caress is the NSA so proud of with its 'octopus devouring the globe' insignias for the satellites?

photographic spy satellites have pretty low orbits, and they're best at taking pictures of stuff that's nearly directly below them. they only see a small chunk of the Earth at any given point in their orbit, and each orbit takes about 90 minutes.

there's satellites that sit high up watching for intense infrared stuff like rocket launch plumes and nuclear fireballs, but they're probably not gonna be able to differentiate between different kinds of warships, if they can even pick out warships at all.

the soviets had nuclear-powered radar satellites that would detect ships on the ocean, but not everyone has those and even they could only look at limited swathes of the Earth at any given time.


additionally, the US can grab data from satellites at any time because we have like two or three data network satellite constellations already in orbit. russia let theirs degrade to the point where during the 90s they could only talk to Mir when it was directly above ground stations. i don't know if china has a network in space; if they don't, then satellite data would have to wait until it passed a ground station (which if we're talking poo poo happening right off the coast probably isn't a problem, but far enough out to sea they might have to wait, depending on how high the satellite is)

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

photographic spy satellites have pretty low orbits, and they're best at taking pictures of stuff that's nearly directly below them. they only see a small chunk of the Earth at any given point in their orbit, and each orbit takes about 90 minutes.

there's satellites that sit high up watching for intense infrared stuff like rocket launch plumes and nuclear fireballs, but they're probably not gonna be able to differentiate between different kinds of warships, if they can even pick out warships at all.

the soviets had nuclear-powered radar satellites that would detect ships on the ocean, but not everyone has those and even they could only look at limited swathes of the Earth at any given time.


additionally, the US can grab data from satellites at any time because we have like two or three data network satellite constellations already in orbit. russia let theirs degrade to the point where during the 90s they could only talk to Mir when it was directly above ground stations. i don't know if china has a network in space; if they don't, then satellite data would have to wait until it passed a ground station (which if we're talking poo poo happening right off the coast probably isn't a problem, but far enough out to sea they might have to wait, depending on how high the satellite is)

that all makes sense and is interesting, thanks

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Moridin920 posted:

drat sounds like the whole system kind of blows then, why aren't we launching kinetic weapons from space already?

tbf it only blows if you are trying to use the satellite to locate ships on the open seas and hit them with a missile

its much more useful spotting things on land because airbases and islands dont float around at 30 knots

naem
May 29, 2011

I could see someone at some point deploying attack satellites that target and disable something be else's communication systems, but then I can also imagine boobie robots and lasarcats™®© PLUS I'm an idiot so,

naem
May 29, 2011

For all we know China ALREADY HAS the boobie robots

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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doobie robots

naem
May 29, 2011

Although boobie robots seems more Japanese to me

naem
May 29, 2011

Fortunately Japan and the U.S. Have strong positive relations, we should focus now more on the lasarcats™®©™ end of teh spectrum

BrianPhillips
May 10, 2006

Robo Reagan posted:

if you're twinky you could probably become a gimp for a warlord of the apocalypse like in the first mad max but if you're fat my advice is become twinky or you will be used for food instead of sex

There is no room for FATSO in the NWO

BrianPhillips
May 10, 2006

Angry Fish posted:

China is the land where you go to a bar at a rural town and buy a bottle of $4 wine and they think you're some wealthy god coming from the city above throwing your hard currency into their lives. You can sex the girls hard because you have $80 in your wallet.

Wait, 4 dollar wine? I would live like a skinny white drunk king.

e: I have no excuse for my double post except 8 dollar wine.

AutoSnakes
Apr 29, 2009

IronClaymore posted:

kids would be taught physics in places like Texas again.

This is incorrect. You want bad primary schools? Try California, for example.

I focus on this because it's almost a stereotype, or rather something you feel should be an American stereotype. It sounds naive.

You like to make sweeping criticisms of government institutions yet attribute such universal flaws to the U.S. directly. You sound upset with Americans in general. Did one of us cuck you or something?

Pack up your Occupy / early 2000s punk music mentality and go make posts on the Science gently caress Yeah! page or something.

Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

China doesn't think. China feels.

Pastry of the Year
Apr 12, 2013

Fojar38 posted:

doobie robots

Electric Laughin' Spittin' Doobie Robot

Ork of Fiction
Jul 22, 2013
Hey WW3 guys, is there any reason to think that a total war wouldn't kick off with an ionospheric nuclear detonation to EM wipe out every unshielded system on the opposing continent?

Like, is that real science or just speculation? Because that's a ferocious opening move.

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GlassEye-Boy
Jul 12, 2001

Arkanomen posted:

This is all you need to know about China and modern technology. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wenzhou_train_collision

China is literally that retarded kid who copies the smart kids answers but writes them down wrong, fails the rest and then buries the report card hoping his parents won't find out. Cheating and bullshitting is a way of life in China.

The U.S. Really shouldn't be laughing when it comes to Train accidents.

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