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huskarl_marx posted:this begs a discussion about the developing ego and its autonomy basically. is it really consent if they were raised in a manner than never allowed the thought of not consenting to it as an option?
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Jun 27, 2015 08:52
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Commie NedFlanders posted:This is a problem with age of consent laws all together. Agreed. Anyway, I'm glad you now realize why incest is bad, and how incestuous relationships fundamentally differ from gay or interracial relationships. how big are your sister's tits? Bethamphetamine fucked around with this message at 09:08 on Jun 27, 2015 |
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Jun 27, 2015 08:52
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The primary social problem with cases of incest is the emotional power that one partner will (in most cases) have over the other. Beyond this, the genetic implications of parent/offspring unions or brother/sister unions (which are statistically minimal, but still significant) can factually offer serious detriments to the children born as a result (and thereby society as a whole). Other than this, there is no justification.
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Jun 27, 2015 08:55
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op, did you ever see this thread? does it titillate you??
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Jun 27, 2015 09:03
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Jun 27, 2015 09:05
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Commie NedFlanders posted:This is a problem with age of consent laws all together. How can we honestly say a 16 year old and 18 year old is statutory rape but a 44 year old banging an 19 year old is fine and dandy? That's hosed up dawg you really want to gently caress your little sister don't you
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Jun 27, 2015 09:06
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Jun 27, 2015 09:06
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Horniest Manticore posted:op, did you ever see this thread? Dreadful I have been categorically against incest and the studd in that thread but my point is that if we accept the logic of consenting adults I don't see how we can justify prohibiting incest if it's with consenting adults
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Jun 27, 2015 09:22
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Mumpy Puffinz posted:you really want to gently caress your little sister don't you You seem really hung up on this idea. Sorry but I don't have one and commie Ned Flanders doesn't like to get hosed by anyone except for Mrs Flanders
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Jun 27, 2015 09:23
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Commie NedFlanders posted:Dreadful Yeah, you want to gently caress your sister
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Jun 27, 2015 09:25
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wow, thread is taking me back to a discussion had in my intro philosophy course in college. real
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Jun 27, 2015 09:27
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Matey posted:wow, thread is taking me back to a discussion had in my intro philosophy course in college. real Which of your classmates wanted to gently caress their sister? Did they put up a better argument than the OP?
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Jun 27, 2015 09:33
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nobody is prohibiting you from loving your sister, op. go hog wild "but she doesn't want to" hmm, yes, i see. society's fault, for sure
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Jun 27, 2015 09:38
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Jun 27, 2015 09:41
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i can't think of any arguments other than 'it's wrong and gross' that's enough for me though tbh
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Jun 27, 2015 09:44
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realistically speaking in modern society consenting adults do not generally get prosecuted under existing incest laws even when they might technically be culpable incest laws are generally used to make it easier to prosecute senior family members who abuse kids or use their positions of authority in the child's life to groom them to be sexually available at an age that otherwise might technically be legal from what I've seen of case studies where this happens the way it goes is basically when the daughter is around 14 or 15 the battered wife starts getting shut in the house and the father starts treating the daughter like his wife and then either immediately or at a later point begins loving her without incest laws this would technically be legal as long as he doesn't touch her before she turns 16 so uh yeah I feel no compulsion to strike these laws from the books, gently caress these sickos if you are a woman who met her estranged father for the first time as an adult and fell in love with him when neither of you actually knew you were related and now you're giving birth to your sister/daughter then I don't think either of you should necessarily be thrown in jail but I don't particularly give a gently caress if the existing law makes you feel like a hosed up weirdo because you are
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Jun 27, 2015 09:45
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I don't really care about incest per se, but I care about inbreeding. There are some anthropologists that believe that humanity's many advances stem from the very early incest ban. Who and how people gently caress? I don't care if it's consenting adults. But people want to have kids together and that's the problem.
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Jun 27, 2015 10:10
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Do It Once Right posted:Which of your classmates wanted to gently caress their sister? Did they put up a better argument than the OP? yeah, he actually provided pics of his hot sister. I was like  and wished him best of luck.
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Jun 27, 2015 10:26
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Unlike in westeros people who do incest irl are not sexy people I want to be related to so I can gently caress and so should be forbidden from doing things.
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Jun 27, 2015 10:46
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Somebody always has to play the Uma Thurman card.
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Jun 27, 2015 11:05
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Frankenstyle posted:Somebody always has to play the Uma Thurman card. lol i thought it was just me
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Jun 27, 2015 11:26
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Commie NedFlanders posted:This is a problem with age of consent laws all together. How can we honestly say a 16 year old and 18 year old is statutory rape but a 44 year old banging an 19 year old is fine and dandy? That's hosed up dawg Age of consent laws, like many laws, represent a 'best guess' effort to promote social wellbeing rather than a rigid statement of moral law. In moral terms, there may well be some people under 16 who are mature enough to give informed consent to sex. Certainly there are people well over the age of 16 who still have the emotional maturity of children. But measuring someone's capacity to consent is impossible to do accurately and if you tried it would just lead to some crazy social eugenics program. Incest laws function the same way. While its not inconceivable that some people could have a healthy incestuous relationship, the vast majority of cases involve a dangerous power imbalance. So our best guess is to just put the banhammer on incest in general. So what I'm saying is if you and your sister truly love and respect each other then go ahead and hit it, just don't get caught.
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Jun 27, 2015 13:18
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Sailor Viy posted:
Well this is where prosecutorial discretion comes in. That example I gave earlier about a woman meeting her estranged father and not finding out they were related until after they had already fallen in love? That wasn't hypothetical, last I heard they were living together raising their sister/daughter/granddaughter and no one was planning to charge either of them with anything.
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Jun 27, 2015 13:24
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i gently caress my invisible sister
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Jun 27, 2015 13:25
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can I get in on OP's sister?
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Jun 27, 2015 19:23
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I can't really give a poo poo if someone fucks someone else that their closely related too. People think it's gross and weird but then they said that and still do about homosexuality. Just don't procreate because I don't want a real life Joffery appearing anytime soon.
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Jun 27, 2015 19:56
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Yeah you generally want more of a gene pool and not so much a cement pond
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Jun 27, 2015 20:06
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Much higher risk of genetic defects in babies. In the UK, first cousin marriages (so not even directly related) have a much higher incidence of babies with deformities, thus leading to greater burden on the health system and of course upset parents. Couple thus with a belief in no birth control and you got problems.quote:The problem is worst among children born in Britain's Pakistani community, where more than half of marriages are between first cousins, and children are 10 times more likely than the general population to suffer genetic disorders. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/7957808/700-children-born-with-genetic-disabilities-due-to-cousin-marriages-every-year.html http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7237663.stm http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-23183102 Also god says it's wrong.
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Jun 27, 2015 20:06
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Jun 27, 2015 20:08
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If they conceive, advise them to abort or else face criminal charges instead. Instead they should adopt a child. Therefor the gene pool is not affected and little timmy has a family. Also legalise Polyamory. I want to have wives and husbands from different ethnic backgrounds so I will be able to form the first ever racial rainbow marriage She's hot tho so Gramps has the right idea.
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Jun 27, 2015 20:26
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Profondo Rosso posted:i know thtis is a troll thread but i was actually thinking about this earlier today. the best argument i can think up against is is that you would allow some pretty hosed up poo poo like a dude legally being able have a daughter then groom her into his perfect submissive waifu and marry her as soon as she hits 16. Ah yes the Woody Allen maneuver
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Jun 27, 2015 20:33
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lol
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Jun 27, 2015 20:34
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Bad Grandpa
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Jun 27, 2015 20:35
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Lord of Pie posted:Yeah you generally want more of a gene pool and not so much a cement pond is the shape of his body compensating for the shape of his face? balance in all things imo.
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Jun 27, 2015 20:38
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Incest is OK but only if it's gay.
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well OP, you are right, there isn't a "real" reason. but it doesnt even have to be illegal, its a self solving problem. most people arent going to do it because it grosses them the gently caress out, and those few who will arent going to give a poo poo if its illegal or not.
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