Event Horizon is a really good movie

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The Protagonist: Jun 29, 2009; The average is 5.5? I thought it was 4. This is very unsettling.

in solaris an amorphous planetary hivemind manifests phantoms from the subconscious of the explorers, in event horizon a hell dimension leaks through to manifest phantoms from the subconscious of the explorers, pretty different imo

but seriously the movies are a world apart in tone

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Xenomrph: Dec 9, 2005; AvP Nerd/Fanboy/Shill

ultrabindu posted:

Wait, so if you you are copied by the Thing you would know that you are a copy?

Sure, why not? The Thing is imitating you perfectly, but it's still an imitation and not real. Even in the original movie we see the Thing actively making Thing-like decisions even when it's fully "camouflaged" - the dog-Thing finding another victim to assimilate before it gets put in the kennel, or Blair begging to be let out of the utility shack.

One thing that's pretty constant between both movies is that the imitations absolutely act like they're the real deal right up to the very last second, even if it means risking their own destruction. Palmer keeps up the facade long enough for him to get tied up and blood-tested, at which point he goes bonkers. And in the prequel, Carter begs for his own life at the very end and insists that he's human right up until Kate lights him on fire, even after outing himself as a Thing.

Moridin920 posted:

yeah dunno bout the back third but even with that I like it a lot

awesome soundtrack that has since been used in many many trailers

saw that movie while I was rolling for the first time it was pretty

Sunshine is totally loving gorgeous on bluray. I agree that the last third is a pretty big tone shift but I don't think it ruins the experience.

Stick Figure Mafia posted:

yeah but the american remake has Insane Clown Posse for absolutely no reason at all in it.

Wait really? It's been forever since I saw the remake and I don't remember that at all.

Speaking of Solaris I recently got done reading the original novel and it's pretty great. The version I linked is the first translation directly from Polish to English that was approved by the author's estate, and it's really readable. The book is a lot heavier on the science and philosophy than the movie versions are. Apparently Stanislaw Lem liked both movie adaptations but felt they both kinda missed the point of his book by omitting a lot of the science in favor of the characters.

Xenomrph fucked around with this message at 19:04 on Jul 14, 2015

# ? Jul 14, 2015 19:01

numberoneposter: Feb 19, 2014; How much do I cum? The answer might surprise you!

i loved the book and never bothered with either movie

# ? Jul 14, 2015 19:24

numberoneposter: Feb 19, 2014; How much do I cum? The answer might surprise you!

Gateway by Frederik Pohl would adapt well.

# ? Jul 14, 2015 19:34

Rappaport: Oct 2, 2013

Xenomrph posted:

Speaking of Solaris I recently got done reading the original novel and it's pretty great. The version I linked is the first translation directly from Polish to English that was approved by the author's estate, and it's really readable. The book is a lot heavier on the science and philosophy than the movie versions are. Apparently Stanislaw Lem liked both movie adaptations but felt they both kinda missed the point of his book by omitting a lot of the science in favor of the characters.

I view Solaris the book as part of a semi-series Lem had, which I'd say also include Eden, His Master's Voice and Fiasco. First of all, massive disclaimer, these books aren't the usual sci-fi fest, but slow and ponderous works. Lem discusses things like man(kind)'s role in the universe, the (im?)possibility of making meaningful contact with other intelligent life, and how nuts the Cold War was. I can't remember off-hand what the English translations were like, sorry

# ? Jul 14, 2015 20:04

scuba school sucks: Aug 30, 2012; The brilliance of my posting illuminates the forums like a jar of shining gold when all around is dark

Prey and Timeline, both by the same author, have the distinction of being the only two books I not only said, "gently caress this I'm not finishing this poo poo" but actually threw across the room in disgust. When the humans scared off the carnivorous nanobots by loving FLOCKING, that was the point that my squad broke. You know what you call four gigantic piles of meat in a row? A loving buffet table! You don't go to the Golden Corral and then say, "Oh my god, the briskets are flocking" and run away in a panic, and neither should nanobots that are intelligent enough to form a ghost human to communicate with humans.

Then in Timeline they had this elaborate pseudoscience explanation of how the time machine worked and how sensitive and delicate it was that they had to surround the machine with circular tanks of water because a single cosmic ray could throw off the calibration and make you get to the destination with your organs rearranged (and that kind of happened to the villain) but one of the main characters asked, "okay if this machine is so sensitive how do we build something in medieval times that can get us back to the present" and the answer was, "well you don't, the guy that comes back as you is actually a different guy that thinks he's you but he's really from a parallel universe that's exactly like ours in every way except they know how to build time machines that can bring people back."

It's not really bad writing, it's pretty good actually, just wacky, but it's well worth reading Chrichton's biography to get to the part where he studied psychics and went to a spoon-bending camp and was taught authentic psionic powers that would allow him to bend spoons but he wouldn't ever say how to do it or demonstrate it afterwards because it was no more impressive than being able to bend your finger and if you think bending your finger is awesome then you are stupid and gay. Easily the best opening line in any book since Dirty White Boys, "It is not easy to cut through a human head with a hacksaw", but falls off once it gets to "I totally have psychic powers from going to Hooked on Psionics back in '82."

Anyway that's my Michael Chrichton story thanks for listening GBS.

# ? Jul 14, 2015 20:55

Pimpcasso: Mar 13, 2002; VOLS BITCH

Network Pesci posted:

Prey and Timeline, both by the same author, have the distinction of being the only two books I not only said, "gently caress this I'm not finishing this poo poo" but actually threw across the room in disgust. When the humans scared off the carnivorous nanobots by loving FLOCKING, that was the point that my squad broke. You know what you call four gigantic piles of meat in a row? A loving buffet table! You don't go to the Golden Corral and then say, "Oh my god, the briskets are flocking" and run away in a panic, and neither should nanobots that are intelligent enough to form a ghost human to communicate with humans.

Then in Timeline they had this elaborate pseudoscience explanation of how the time machine worked and how sensitive and delicate it was that they had to surround the machine with circular tanks of water because a single cosmic ray could throw off the calibration and make you get to the destination with your organs rearranged (and that kind of happened to the villain) but one of the main characters asked, "okay if this machine is so sensitive how do we build something in medieval times that can get us back to the present" and the answer was, "well you don't, the guy that comes back as you is actually a different guy that thinks he's you but he's really from a parallel universe that's exactly like ours in every way except they know how to build time machines that can bring people back."

It's not really bad writing, it's pretty good actually, just wacky, but it's well worth reading Chrichton's biography to get to the part where he studied psychics and went to a spoon-bending camp and was taught authentic psionic powers that would allow him to bend spoons but he wouldn't ever say how to do it or demonstrate it afterwards because it was no more impressive than being able to bend your finger and if you think bending your finger is awesome then you are stupid and gay. Easily the best opening line in any book since Dirty White Boys, "It is not easy to cut through a human head with a hacksaw", but falls off once it gets to "I totally have psychic powers from going to Hooked on Psionics back in '82."

Anyway that's my Michael Chrichton story thanks for listening GBS.

yeah but 13th warrior turned into a goofy enjoyable movie for me as a 15 year old so i give crichton a pass

# ? Jul 14, 2015 21:36

Moridin920: Nov 15, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

Prey is great if when you get to the bit where they are trapped in some desert caves about to get eaten by nanorobots you put the book down and pretend that happens and that's the end.

# ? Jul 14, 2015 21:44

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Network Pesci posted:

Prey and Timeline

Prey was a gigantic piece of hot poo poo garbage. But I remember liking Timeline when it came out when I was young :shrug:

Though that reminds me, I just read Nexus which is really loving good scifi thriller, and fairly well researched/grounded in reality for the most part (besides some bad ~firewalls and posthuman quantum cluster~ stuff), and it's basically Crichton if Crichton didn't make up a bunch of non-sensical stupid poo poo

# ? Jul 14, 2015 21:46

Blue Raider: Sep 2, 2006

Daedra posted:

yeah but 13th warrior turned into a goofy enjoyable movie for me as a 15 year old so i give crichton a pass

13th warrior owns without qualification

# ? Jul 14, 2015 23:17

Pimpcasso: Mar 13, 2002; VOLS BITCH

Blue Raider posted:

13th warrior owns without qualification

i havent seen it since because i didnt want it to turn out to actually be poo poo

# ? Jul 14, 2015 23:37

Bolow: Feb 27, 2007

Ddraig posted:

Solaris, the 1972 version is better than Event Horizon and largely tries to do the same thing but done by industrious Russians rather than slovenly and stupid Americans.

The slovenly and stupid 2002 remake by Americans is dumb as gently caress though. Don't watch that.

Yeah but the American version has George Clooney's rear end in it

# ? Jul 14, 2015 23:43

Ramrod Hotshot: May 30, 2003

InterFaced posted:

Its a fun movie with cool spaceships and space satan. I want more movies with space satan.

Yeah me too

Like a WH40k movie but just the people and space demons
:goonsay:

# ? Jul 14, 2015 23:53

Blue Raider: Sep 2, 2006

Daedra posted:

i havent seen it since because i didnt want it to turn out to actually be poo poo

it kicks rear end to this day and is bizarrely violent

# ? Jul 15, 2015 00:23

Facebook Aunt: Oct 4, 2008; wiggle wiggle

Daedra posted:

i havent seen it since because i didnt want it to turn out to actually be poo poo

It's good, but just pretend the enemies are orcs or something. If you try to think of them as people the story makes no drat sense at all.

# ? Jul 15, 2015 00:34

Xenomrph: Dec 9, 2005; AvP Nerd/Fanboy/Shill

numberoneposter posted:

Gateway by Frederik Pohl would adapt well.

Speaking of sci fi books that should be movies, I'm still waiting for David Fincher to get off his rear end and do the Rendezvous With Rama adaptation he's been talking about since about 2000.

# ? Jul 15, 2015 00:40

numberoneposter: Feb 19, 2014; How much do I cum? The answer might surprise you!

Xenomrph posted:

Speaking of sci fi books that should be movies, I'm still waiting for David Fincher to get off his rear end and do the Rendezvous With Rama adaptation he's been talking about since about 2000.

whos going to ruin forever war again???

# ? Jul 15, 2015 01:23