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Lou Willliams/D'Angelo Russell/Jordan Clarkson Kobe Bryant/Jordan Clarkson/Jabari Brown Nick Young/Anthony Brown Brandon Bass/Julius Randle Roy Hibbert/Robert Sacre/Tarik Black It's not an ideal NBA roster, and they should be just developing Russell and Randle this year, but it's going to win more than 30 games. Metapod posted:The starting lineup could be very solid if turner's shot carry's over from summer league. You expect a 19 year old Turner and George to form a passable defensive frontcourt? Like I said, the best plan is to shoot for the lottery this year. If George was ready to come back strong he wouldn't be skipping USA Basketball camps.
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schmitty9800 posted:Lou Willliams/D'Angelo Russell/Jordan Clarkson Uhh, yeah wut? I am not seeing 30 wins out of that roster unless you have WAYYY more faith in Kobe Bryant than is at all reasonable.
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He could be skipping team USA practices because the last time he played free basketball for them somebody moved a stanchion a few feet forward and his leg snapped off and a pack of wild dogs rushed the court and one of the dogs took Paul George's leg in his mouth and the feral beasts rushed off into the Nevada desert and it took a team of trained hunters 4-5 months to track his leg down so he could have two legs again, maybe that's the problem ? He played a few minutes at the end of last season he'll be fine. Breaks that don't mess up joints heal just fine. Also at this point Russell is last in the PG rotation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=875XRk2GGEM He looks like a worse pick than KING ZING. Clarkson is better. EvanTH fucked around with this message at 16:13 on Jul 14, 2015 |
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Jul 14, 2015 16:11
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Someone needs to explain the Kings thing, because as much as I like DeMarcus I do not see it at all. That team was bad last year and none of their offseason moves were especially inspiring. WCS doesn't look even close to ready either.
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Jul 14, 2015 16:28
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I think I'm forgetting the fact that the Lakers are in the West while the Pacers are in the East also. Lockback posted:Uhh, yeah wut? I am not seeing 30 wins out of that roster unless you have WAYYY more faith in Kobe Bryant than is at all reasonable. After reading some more about his injury (he's not shooting the ball yet) you could be right, but if he's reasonably healthy I don't think that's a 60 loss team. EvanTH posted:He could be skipping team USA practices because the last time he played free basketball for them somebody moved a stanchion a few feet forward and his leg snapped off and a pack of wild dogs rushed the court and one of the dogs took Paul George's leg in his mouth and the feral beasts rushed off into the Nevada desert and it took a team of trained hunters 4-5 months to track his leg down so he could have two legs again, maybe that's the problem ? He's going to play free basketball for them next year though.
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Jul 14, 2015 16:31
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haha it's not for free there's GOLD on the line
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Jul 14, 2015 16:37
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schmitty9800 posted:He's going to play free basketball for them next year though. There's a gold medal involved in that though, which would probably be nice in his mind since if he stays with Indiana, he will never win an NBA championship.
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Jul 14, 2015 16:38
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schmitty9800 posted:Lou Willliams/D'Angelo Russell/Jordan Clarkson It's a poo poo roster. And I was not bolding the Lakers because you said they might win 30 games (which I may agree is there absolute ceiling if literally everything goes right and Kobe is not completely poo poo) but the fact that you said they have a possibility of making the playoffs. Like they have as close to a 0% chance as possible.
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Jul 20, 2015 17:17
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Lakers are the definition of a 21-23 win team
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Jul 20, 2015 17:24
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People really overestimate how much rookies can help. Rookies are almost always bad in their first year. Even LeBron and Durant, who when healthy are almost certainly the two best basketball players on earth, were horrible defensively and wildly inefficient on offense in their first seasons. Adjusting to the NBA is really tough. Russell and Randle are gonna be net negatives in all likelihood and the team beyond that is pretty ugly. I like Clarkson fine but he should not be your best player.
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Jul 20, 2015 17:31
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The funny thing thing with the Lakers is that they might win less games with Kobe being healthy and playing a lot. He has been very bad when he has played the past two years, and if he sticks around for 70ish games then it's going to be ugly. 35% shooting, 20 shots a game.
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Jul 20, 2015 17:47
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I think it's very unlikely that one of the most creative offensive players in the game has a negative effect on the Lakers. He may take a lot of shots and be inefficient for stretches, but is it really better if someone else on this roster takes them instead?
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Jul 20, 2015 17:49
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Paul Zuvella posted:The funny thing thing with the Lakers is that they might win less games with Kobe being healthy and playing a lot. He has been very bad when he has played the past two years, and if he sticks around for 70ish games then it's going to be ugly. 35% shooting, 20 shots a game. Kobe stopped taking every shot once he passed mj in points
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Jul 20, 2015 17:49
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Ungratek posted:I think it's very unlikely that one of the most creative offensive players in the game has a negative effect on the Lakers. He may take a lot of shots and be inefficient for stretches, but is it really better if someone else on this roster takes them instead? If they're more likely to go in when that guy shoots them yeah. Kobe was really bad last year. It doesn't take away from what he used to be, but he's played tons of minutes and has suffered a bunch of serious injuries. He's not a very good player anymore.
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Jul 20, 2015 17:53
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Metapod posted:Kobe stopped taking every shot once he passed mj in points He was facilitating for the the first stretch last year, and he did a good job.
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Jul 20, 2015 17:53
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Ungratek posted:I think it's very unlikely that one of the most creative offensive players in the game has a negative effect on the Lakers. He may take a lot of shots and be inefficient for stretches, but is it really better if someone else on this roster takes them instead? 2014 offensive win shares: -.5 2015 offensive win shares: -.4 Obviously sample size is an issue but there really isn't anything to suggest that he wasn't a net negative. Obviously, it's in the Lakers best interest to have Kobe take as many shots as possible because they want to keep their draft pick. e: The Lakers were like infinitely better off having Nick Young take a shot than Kobe Jellybean Bryant. That's how bad it's gotten. Paul Zuvella fucked around with this message at 18:01 on Jul 20, 2015 |
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Jul 20, 2015 17:57
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Dejan Bimble posted:He was facilitating for the the first stretch last year, and he did a good job. This. If he actually goes into pass-first Kobe mode or "Pass if good idea" Kobe mode, I think it's a gain to have him on the floor. He might be shooting like garbage, but a lot of that is taking bad shots. It's not like you can just... not guard him like some players in the league. Hopefully working with a real point guard will help. Or, he might be even more broken than before, or have even less trust in his teammates than before. Watching a hobbled Kobe Bryant play is just the worst. You can tell the guy is just furious that his body won't listen, even though he puts in a maniacal amount of work. Getting old sucks.
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Jul 20, 2015 22:23
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Like Kobe's going to play more than a quarter of the season before his ribcage explodes or something.
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Ungratek posted:I think it's very unlikely that one of the most creative offensive players in the game has a negative effect on the Lakers. He may take a lot of shots and be inefficient for stretches, but is it really better if someone else on this roster takes them instead? If you cloned Kobe's 35 game performance from last year and used that team of Kobe's WS/48 to play all 82 games they'd round down to 2 wins. He was the worst player on that team that actually got minutes. The Lakers best hope is that Kobe being that bad was just chasing MJ and he'll be better this year. Which is probably the case, the first part of the year he was merely not good, versus one of the worst players in the league he ended the season playing like. Bashez fucked around with this message at 22:19 on Jul 21, 2015 |
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