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op me and my bro are going to wheel an oven into a bernie rally tonight and tell peeps to "jump the gently caress in" u should join us we're hoping no one does and everyone stands up and claps before walking out and changing their reg so they can vote in someone not commie/cuckservative like The Don
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jackyl posted:Then what? u got an illiterate dude managing your budget? you get a dude that only knows how to back a trailer up correctly (which anyone that owns a boat knows just as well) negotiating contracts? You get a janitor handling inventory management? Why couldn't the workers organize in the interests of their workplace and decide together to invest in worker education or hiring an educated partner to join the group? If they wanted they could just hire the previous owner, all that matters is the workers decide
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Typical Pubbie posted:Hmmm, it is telling how every communist I've met irl has been an underemployed sad brain loser who complains loudly about capitalism while sucking the labor of the working classes to fund their super senior year as an english major. Maybe you should hang out with responsible, hard working people who recognize capitalism for what it is and have souls and appreciation for justice ? Most "capitalists" I've met are actually poor working class shmoes who lack any class consciousness and has a shockingly dismal understanding of the economy :  "Hurr don't pay workers more money because business will fail it's called BASIC ECONOMICS but an increase in disposable income for the working class would boost demand for all consumer goods and services because poor people spend the highest percentage of their income that's not how it works! I can't hire anyone if the government taxes all my money! but speaking as a business owner, wouldn't it make sense to never hire anyone unless there was enough demand to require it? It's not like it's profitable to simply hire people just because you have more money socialism doesn't work! I don't want to pay for poor Browns , lower my taxes, abolish the minimum wage or I will literally never create another job I'm Going Galt! that's exactly what we want you to do, please go Galt somewhere else and let your workers run the company themselves *goes Galt dies of starvation in a week*
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Aug 1, 2015 18:57
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relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lRqyZYfrmE
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Aug 1, 2015 19:02
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social vegan posted:Fun 2 think about all the other twisty paths the money could take to get to Jews this is the reason god has not yet gassed this thread
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lol you don't have to be a communist to understand what capital is; nobody forced op to post this tremendously awful argument
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Aug 1, 2015 19:40
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Chris Christie posted:Indeed comrade. If someone risks their finances, forgoes more secure job opportunities, takes massive risks, works 100+ hour weeks, and sacrifices time with their family to start a company that ultimately becomes successful enough that they need to hire multiple employees, of course they should own the company equally. the british crown is entirely legitimate because William the Conquor forwent secure job opportunities in france and risked his life and finances to acquire briton. all the people of the UK should be serfs forever because of this fact.
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Aug 1, 2015 19:55
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a celebrity gets mad at people for bothering them for being famous, why can't u forget who i made myself to be, ugh ive never been overpaid for being me, go away poppa roachzi! how dare u take pics of me in public
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Aug 1, 2015 19:58
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basement jihadist posted:a celebrity gets mad at people for bothering them for being famous, why can't u forget who i made myself to be, ugh ive never been overpaid for being me, go away poppa roachzi! how dare u take pics of me in public I JUST WANT TO BE TREATED LIKE A NORMAL PERSON whines about not receiving VIP section comp because dont u know who i loving am you shits
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Aug 1, 2015 19:59
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holy f*ck communism is so righteous and cool and the correct ideology id add "imo" but i wont because its not an opinion, its fact
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Aug 1, 2015 20:49
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actually it's poo poo because it's totally powerless in the world an ideology isn't much use if it can't push other ideologies poo poo in as well as all the utopia stuff 
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Aug 1, 2015 20:52
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Chris Christie posted:Indeed comrade. If someone risks their finances, forgoes more secure job opportunities, takes massive risks, works 100+ hour weeks, and sacrifices time with their family to start a company that ultimately becomes successful enough that they need to hire multiple employees, of course they should own the company equally. It sure seems like a silly idea when you assume for no reason that the genesis of productive enterprise should follow the current model of market and private capital.
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Aug 1, 2015 21:41
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If we become a democracy I guess we'd vote on everything all the time? That's ridiculous, I'd never get any work done, and what right do Joe and Jane Lunchbucket have to vote every day on what kind of soda i have for lunch
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Aug 1, 2015 21:45
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Tezzor posted:If we become a democracy I guess we'd vote on everything all the time? That's ridiculous, I'd never get any work done, and what right do Joe and Jane Lunchbucket have to vote every day on what kind of soda i have for lunch
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Aug 1, 2015 21:46
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jackyl posted:Then what? u got an illiterate dude managing your budget? you get a dude that only knows how to back a trailer up correctly (which anyone that owns a boat knows just as well) negotiating contracts? You get a janitor handling inventory management? put your hand on the bottom of the steering wheel and move your hand towards the side you want the back of the trailer to move towards there now you can launch a boat
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Aug 1, 2015 21:51
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teh
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Aug 1, 2015 21:53
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The means of production are all in China which calls itself communist already so
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Aug 1, 2015 21:54
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Chris Christie posted:Indeed comrade. If someone risks their finances, forgoes more secure job opportunities, takes massive risks, works 100+ hour weeks, and sacrifices time with their family to start a company that ultimately becomes successful enough that they need to hire multiple employees, of course they should own the company equally. 100 hours a week taking investors to nice lunches is not 100 hours a week of burger flipping or childcare and LOL at any little Harvard or Yale kid who thinks they've ever seen anyone in their family work harder than a single mother trying to keep her kids head above water.
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Aug 1, 2015 21:59
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Yeah, you work 100 hours a week, your family is falling apart and your hair is falling out. Here's five million bucks for your .com business - Said no smart investor ever.
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Aug 1, 2015 22:01
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Chris Christie posted:Indeed comrade. If someone risks their finances, forgoes more secure job opportunities, takes massive risks, works 100+ hour weeks, and sacrifices time with their family to start a company that ultimately becomes successful enough that they need to hire multiple employees, of course they should own the company equally. what if you just inherit your slumlord father's real estate fortune, declare bankruptcy 3 times and then run for president on the "mexicans are rapists" platform
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Aug 1, 2015 22:05
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AdvancesMONKEY posted:100 hours a week taking investors to nice lunches is not 100 hours a week of burger flipping or childcare and LOL at any little Harvard or Yale kid who thinks they've ever seen anyone in their family work harder than a single mother trying to keep her kids head above water. i heard that black eyed peas song once too
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Aug 1, 2015 22:05
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The Goatfather posted:what if you just inherit your slumlord father's real estate fortune, declare bankruptcy 3 times and then run for president on the "mexicans are rapists" platform
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Aug 1, 2015 22:23
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Instead of seizing current means of production why don't you pool your resources, leverage capital from the credit markets, and collectively form your own source of production? You won't have to wait around for the big revolution which seems to be receding ever further into the hazy future....
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Aug 2, 2015 01:50
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jackyl posted:Then what? u got an illiterate dude managing your budget? you get a dude that only knows how to back a trailer up correctly (which anyone that owns a boat knows just as well) negotiating contracts? You get a janitor handling inventory management? lol "budgets" under communist rule
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Aug 2, 2015 01:52
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Wizchine posted:Instead of seizing current means of production why don't you pool your resources, leverage capital from the credit markets, and collectively form your own source of production? You won't have to wait around for the big revolution which seems to be receding ever further into the hazy future.... this is what i do, i call it "socialism in one man"
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Aug 2, 2015 02:00
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as a fat slovenly internet nerd, i dig the idea of mincome. it means i can do what im already doing right now-- only for pay. and that appeals to me.
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in 2015 america seizing the means of production means enslaving the bankers
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