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Dangersim posted:gsp was better I disagree.
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Tezcatlipoca posted:I disagree. that's fine, just my opinion
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He expended too much energy and got tired
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GSP had weaknesses in his game even if the things he did well were enough to make up for it. DJ's skillset is just mindboggling.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:GSP had weaknesses in his game even if the things he did well were enough to make up for it. DJ's skillset is just mindboggling. GSP's only weakness was that he didn't have KO power.
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Sep 6, 2015 06:14
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Mechafunkzilla posted:GSP had weaknesses in his game such as
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Dangersim posted:such as Being unable to finish Dan Hardy
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Dangersim posted:such as He was a little predictable in his striking and could be timed. Didn't matter too much because people were so worried about the shot they were hesitant to move forward. I'm not saying he wasn't a great fighter, just that DJ impresses me the most.
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Dangersim posted:such as Short, fat Italians
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Mechafunkzilla posted:GSP had weaknesses in his game even if the things he did well were enough to make up for it. DJ's skillset is just mindboggling. I agree about mighty mouse, and his speed is crazy. but GSP was so dominant with takedowns, I mean Ive never really seen anything like that either. im not totally sure why theyre being compared right now
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GSP's striking was limited and he compensated well by being one of the best wrestlers in his division and he fought mostly wrestlers. The best strikers he fought had pretty bad wrestling so he always had an obvious path to victory against most of his opponents. Johnson is a lot more diverse in his paths to victory and has a bigger arsenal to draw from. This is nitpicking though. Edit: Johnson had a ton of success against larger fighters while training part time so there's that as well. Tezcatlipoca fucked around with this message at 06:30 on Sep 6, 2015 |
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Sep 6, 2015 06:27
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Tezcatlipoca posted:GSP's striking was limited crazy talk
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I just watched that PPV in a tiny bar with Robin Black, Randa Markos, and Dennis Bermudez. Randa didn't blink during the strawweight fight. She seemed like she's thinking about how she's going to smash Van Zandt.
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Bundt Cake posted:crazy talk Compared to Johnson's, I said I was nitpicking. Presser has started.
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Sep 6, 2015 06:33
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GSP/DJ/Silva, whatever. If streaks make for great champions, #1 is a tossup between Tim Sylvia and Yoel Romero.
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CommonShore posted:GSP/DJ/Silva, whatever. If streaks make for great champions, #1 is a tossup between Tim Sylvia and Yoel Romero. Wouldn't that be #2...
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I'd still call Jon Jones better than DJ. Too bad about that whole coke thing
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Ginette Reno posted:I'd still call Jon Jones better than DJ. Too bad about that whole coke thing Jon Jones turns around and runs away from exchanges that don't go his way.
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for example, that one time he hit a pregnant woman and then ran away from the scene of the crime.
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Uriah Faber was the prototype for the modern WMMA fighter.Pretty Lady Blob posted:She calls that the PTO.
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MM is out of this world good, but I always start dozing off around round 4 as if appears nothing surprising will happen at that point and the rest of the fight is a foregone conclusion. His ability to throw strikes from every single position is incredible tho. Whether he was moving forward, sideways or backwards, he won practically every single exchange and avoided being hit at all in most of them. Still it was hard to stay awake since it ends up looking like he is sparring some chump.
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tesilential posted:MM is out of this world good, but I always start dozing off around round 4 as if appears nothing surprising will happen at that point and the rest of the fight is a foregone conclusion. You know like two of his three sub finishes as champion happened in round 5, right
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Performance Bonuses: FOTN: Lineker/Rivera POTN: Anthony Johnson, Racquel Pennington Real happy for Pennington getting that bonus. On her birthday no less.
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Johnson is always trying to finish. He looks for it tactically instead of forcing it though and he's better at finding finishes on the ground. I don't fault him for not finishing somebody who has never been stopped. He was clearly trying to but Dodson is really loving good.
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Tezcatlipoca posted:Johnson is always trying to finish. He looks for it tactically instead of forcing it though and he's better at finding finishes on the ground. I don't fault him for not finishing somebody who has never been stopped. He was clearly trying to but Dodson is really loving good. dodson rules. I missed the 1st round  but in the second he still looked like himself, and between the two guys hes the better wrestler. but MM lit him up early in the third I think it was and Dodson was on his back foot for the rest of the fight. As I recall the first fight, Dodson knocked him down a few times and threw him down before MM took over in the final 3 rounds. so wow MM has gotten a lot better. Dodson looked better too because he didnt gas as much as he just got punched a lot. Mighty mouse was aggressive with the takedowns too even though they werent going anywhere
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Bundt Cake posted:dodson rules. I missed the 1st round The second round was
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Dodson may be a better wrestler than DJ for a couple of rounds but he doesn't use it effectively. Johnson uses his wrestling better because it to open up offense in other areas. Since Mighty Mouse is always going between striking, clinching and takedowns he can keep constant offensive pressure on people. He may not get you down the first time he shoots but when it's the 4th round and you don't know whether he's going to elbow you in the face or switch from a single to a double leg or change his grips to throw a knee to your head then it doesn't really matter. His pressure and versatility are killer. The biggest difference in this fight to the first one was that DJ was landing that lead right over and over. Dodson was being stunned or too busy defending while DJ was coming in to ever land his big left hand. Then Mighty Mouse would clinch and beat him up against the fence while also making him defend takedowns and he eventually did start landing those takedowns.
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MM was real fast and accurate and got out of the pocket before Dodson could do poo poo, or he'd initiate takedowns and he never let up the pressure. It must be real frustrating to fight a guy who is on you constantly but you can never really land a punch on.
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I have to say, watching MM these last few years has been a real treat.
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Tezcatlipoca posted:Johnson is always trying to finish. He looks for it tactically instead of forcing it though and he's better at finding finishes on the ground. I don't fault him for not finishing somebody who has never been stopped. He was clearly trying to but Dodson is really loving good. Yeah, MM is dominant in GSP-like ways, but I don't feel like he's content to keep the same pace like GSP kinda did in his late career. You can feel him escalating as the fight goes on and he figures the other guy out. It's like the opposite of gassing out. It's still extremely technical, but he presents more variety (to me at least) than GSP's 'death by perfectly executed jabs and takedowns'.
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MM is so much more fluid in transitioning from striking to takedowns than GSP, and on the feet he has better fundamentals. GSP was better at top control though, probably.
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Lol I called the outcome of these fights. Can't believe how depressing the Arlovski/Mir right was but yeah. Kind of a weird and boring card overall
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Does Mighty Mouse have any desire to move up a class? Obviously he doesn't need to but there really isn't anyone close to him in his division and you kinda feel he needs to fight more relevant fighters to get those buy rates up.
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1st AD posted:MM is so much more fluid in transitioning from striking to takedowns than GSP What??????
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yeah I don't agree with that. with GSP you almost never saw the takedown coming, both us viewers and definitely the opponents right in front of him. Mighty Mouse's takedowns are all pretty deliberate but he's so good & quick that usually the other guy is hosed anyway and ends up on their butt. The reason why I think Mighty Mouse is a better overall fighter than GSP at the moment is because Mighty Mouse has unreal conditioning that GSP had early on but lost a bit of after the ACL injury (and maybe even slightly before that too if I'm being honest). Mighty Mouse fights better in the 5th than he does in the 1st and conditioning kills. But GSP still did a lot of stuff in MMA better than Mighty Mouse or anybody else really.
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