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Agag posted:There was a book by Hitchens, and film by Hitchens and some other guy, and a Penn & Teller: Bullshit! episode. remember the thread where you said people hated mother teresa because they were white supremacists, only to learn that she was white? that was p funny. i look forward to more a-grade agag material in this thread
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Agag posted:There was a book by Hitchens, and film by Hitchens and some other guy, and a Penn & Teller: Bullshit! episode. Some great hindsight bias on display here. Or maybe the sour grapes fallacy coupled with magical thinking
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Oct 1, 2015 14:51
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mother theresa gay so what
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Oct 1, 2015 14:56
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Cnut the Great posted:hitchens is a Good Atheist because he is dead
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Oct 1, 2015 14:58
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Beef Turret posted:Mother Theresa's fund did more to alleviate suffering than any of the new atheists ever did cite ur sources
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Oct 1, 2015 15:03
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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She believed that human pain and suffering brought people closer to god so she helped people feel pain and suffer.
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Oct 1, 2015 15:08
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blowfish posted:cite ur sources That she alleviated people's suffering is undeniable. Some knee-jerkers (became famous) by championing the facts that was a conservative Catholic who accepted money from kleptocrats, and also that her hospices weren't up to Western standards. That's pretty much it. Also it's kinda funny how Hitchen's got all the research for his Mother Teresa book for free because a publisher though the original writer wasn't famous enough to sell books, and it ended up making only Hitchens even more famous
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Oct 1, 2015 15:18
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Beef Turret posted:That she alleviated people's suffering is undeniable. Because by denying them actual medical care they died quicker?
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Oct 1, 2015 15:21
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NotWearingPants posted:Because by denying them actual medical care they died quicker? She should definitely have shipped the dying off to a richer neighborhood so they could die hooked up to a ventilator like Science intended
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Oct 1, 2015 15:25
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Beef Turret posted:She should definitely have shipped the dying off to a richer neighborhood so they could die hooked up to a ventilator like Science intended Or maybe just given pain medicine to people suffering in horrible pain. It's one thing for someone to choose to forgo pain relief because Jesus got no morphine on the cross, but putting other people in a position to experience the pain of Christ's crucifixion does not seem like something Jesus would do. In fact, I think that was kind of the point of him dying for us if you believe that kind of stuff.
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Read one of his books once - it was like a five page introduction made up of a redditor's idea of witty invective against 'so called' faiths and their (heh) skygod (heh heh). The rest was excepts from 'atheist' texts throughout history, written by people far smarter than Hitchens was.
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Oct 1, 2015 15:48
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Beef Turret posted:Mother Theresa's fund did more to alleviate suffering than any of the new atheists ever did also true gosh the world is complex
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Oct 1, 2015 15:52
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NotWearingPants posted:In fact, I think that was kind of the point of him dying for us if you believe that kind of stuff. actually you missed the point. pretty clear you don't believe that kind of stuff.
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Oct 1, 2015 15:57
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The Whole Internet posted:remember the thread where you said people hated mother teresa because they were white supremacists, only to learn that she was white? Albanians are white?! Anyway that thread was about white supremacists making GBS threads on India. This is the thread about Mother Theresa and Penn Gillette.
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Oct 1, 2015 16:03
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NotWearingPants posted:She believed that human pain and suffering brought people closer to god so she helped people feel pain and suffer. She said something like that, which is something I've heard from a number of Catholics who do charitable work or palliative care. Its a way of giving value to and dignity to a bad situation, even if you think its imaginary. But if you're Christopher Hitchens this is your opportunity to tell your credulous fans that this means she was trying to create poverty in India because there wasn't enough of it. She "kept" them poor, which was definitely necessary otherwise they would all have become middle class at least. NotWearingPants posted:Because by denying them actual medical care they died quicker? What medical care did she possess that she was denying them? Her facilities were places where the sick and poor could die in a bed, maybe with somebody watching over them and a little food and water. What would they have had otherwise? What were those people going to get from Christopher Hitchens or any New Atheist? "Learn to code then go to a nice hospital, fucker."
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Oct 1, 2015 16:11
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Agag posted:"Learn to code then go to a nice hospital, fucker." You forgot that the kindly
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Oct 1, 2015 16:14
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raditts posted:It was pretty garbo after the 2nd or 3rd season when they ran out of things to debunk and started coming up with arguments like "College is bullshit because George Washington and Eminem didn't go to college and they were successful" but college is bullshit
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Another funny thing about the hospice is that Hitchens was outraged over people being quote-unquote forced to take shits in squat toilets in plain sight of other people, even though that was entirely common among lower caste Indians back then, and still is to a large extent. Just another instance of the Civilized man sneering at the savages
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Oct 1, 2015 16:21
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start a gofundme for indian sick people and go open a hospital for the dying you dumb atheists
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if hitchens had been born like two centuries earlier all his books would be about how slavery is totally cool
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Oct 1, 2015 17:09
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Agag posted:What medical care did she possess that she was denying them? Her facilities were places where the sick and poor could die in a bed, maybe with somebody watching over them and a little food and water. What would they have had otherwise? What were those people going to get from Christopher Hitchens or any New Atheist? "Learn to code then go to a nice hospital, fucker." i don't like the new atheists either but come on
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Oct 1, 2015 17:12
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Mother Teresa would have thought of Kim Davis as a hero and probably would have met with her too.
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Oct 1, 2015 17:13
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Agag posted:She said something like that, which is something I've heard from a number of Catholics who do charitable work or palliative care. Its a way of giving value to and dignity to a bad situation, even if you think its imaginary. drat, I hope I never get to be sick near you or those Catholics around you when i need some meds and you give me "dignity" instead.
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Oct 1, 2015 17:35
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raditts posted:It was pretty garbo after the 2nd or 3rd season when they ran out of things to debunk and started coming up with arguments like "College is bullshit because George Washington and Eminem didn't go to college and they were successful" That episode was more about how colleges were restricting free speech. They predicted the Tumblr poo poo a decade before.
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Oct 1, 2015 17:36
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pen and teller were on babylon 5
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Moridin920 posted:you know what It was good for a while before they turned it into Libertarian propaganda & got all their talking heads from The Cato Institute
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Beef Turret posted:quote-unquote forced to take shits in squat toilets in plain sight of other people it is true i was v.humiliated by the whole ordeal
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Oct 1, 2015 18:25
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dsriggs posted:It was good for a while before they turned it into Libertarian propaganda & got all their talking heads from The Cato Institute Yeah but there were still good episodes and if anything it was an exercise in the bullshit of bullshit.
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Oct 1, 2015 18:39
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RabbitWizard posted:drat, I hope I never get to be sick near you or those Catholics around you when i need some meds and you give me "dignity" instead. I like this idea that they had a bunch of meds they were refusing to give ppl.
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Oct 1, 2015 18:59
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Agag posted:I like this idea that they had a bunch of meds they were refusing to give ppl. Yeah seriously, like they'd ever order them in the first place.
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I'm Crap posted:she raised hundreds of millions of dollars, moron. she could have built and run a western-standard academic hospital if she'd wanted to do. she didn't, she hoarded all the money and only voluntarily spent it on anti-abortion and anti-birth control campaigns The books were never opened, but this is indeed the convenient assumption. People who would never do anything to help another human being whining about they assume another person went about not helping other human beings effectively enough. Also this usually crops up in 50-page threads of racial slurs for some reason. Its a mystery.
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Oct 1, 2015 19:03
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The Whole Internet posted:remember the thread where you said people hated mother teresa because they were white supremacists, only to learn that she was white? Albanians aren't white though
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Oct 1, 2015 19:10
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Phobic Nest posted:Yeah seriously, like they'd ever order them in the first place. If you got shot in the leg, Mother Theresa would look you in the eyes and step on the bullet hole. "You're closer to God now, bitch." She grinds her heel into the wound, obviously sexually excited.
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Oct 1, 2015 19:11
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Agag posted:If you got shot in the leg, Mother Theresa would look you in the eyes and step on the bullet hole. "You're closer to God now, bitch." She grinds her heel into the wound, obviously sexually excited. Having been raised Catholic, this sounds about right.
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Oct 1, 2015 19:12
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Agag posted:If you got shot in the leg, Mother Theresa would look you in the eyes and step on the bullet hole. "You're closer to God now, bitch." She grinds her heel into the wound, obviously sexually excited. I'm sorry your parents beat Christ into you and thus you feel the need to defend such a horrible human being 
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Oct 1, 2015 19:17
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I bet she fuckd lepers until their crazy scab dicks fell off
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Oct 1, 2015 19:19
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Bullshit is a bad show. They did one on "ghost hunters" but they were just a few friends who like staying at historic B&B's and stuff. And then the voice over makes fun of them, cause they're too cowardly to say anything to their face. And LOL at the "Second Hand Smoke Isn't Real" episode. Edit: P&T are pretty fun magicians, though.
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RabbitWizard posted:I'm sorry your parents beat Christ into you and thus you feel the need to defend such a horrible human being My parents weren't religious, they were Anglican.
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GigaPeon posted:And then the voice over makes fun of them, cause they're too cowardly to say anything to their face. This is what turned me off the most. Their Cato faggotry is just the icing
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