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Most "atheists" around the world don't really consider themselves atheists because it's something they've never really thought about. What you're doing, intentionally or otherwise, is drawing a shaky link between a portion of the emerging new face of reactionary right-wing identity and the far greater number of individuals whose only common trait is a lack of belief in any particular religious system. Given the few reactions you've garnered here it appears obvious that you're too stupid to understand the distinction between a fairly small and largely cohesive group of shitlords and a nebulous group comprised of millions of otherwise completely unrelated individuals, too stupid to troll D&D despite it being the most hand-wringy forum on the site, or both.
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Wheeee posted:Most "atheists" around the world don't really consider themselves atheists because it's something they've never really thought about. Those reactionaries are the ideological vanguard of the identity, its loudest voices and most visible faces. They define what an atheist is to many, many people, including many (most?) self-described atheists. This is actually a problem despite your pretending it isn't because you're too special to be associated with those bad folks
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Oct 5, 2015 08:20
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Yeah, most self-described atheists see themselves in a mass murderer, why not
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Oct 5, 2015 08:35
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There's an atrocity; suddenly the killer was both an atheist and Islamist at the same time, why not add some other convenient identity while we're at it, spiritual satanist too? So, who did this killer vote for anyway? We have to complete the boogeyman profile.
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Oct 5, 2015 08:56
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I'm glad this thread exists to put across the extremely complex and high-level concept that assigning collective responsibility based on shared beliefs is silly and wrong, now only stupid racists will do it.
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Oct 5, 2015 09:50
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Tezzor posted:I didn't ask for you to pontificate about the vast diversity of dorkness. I asked you why he is so popular amongst them. You should care about them because their brand of politics is representative of atheist belief whether or not you have memorized a "types of atheists" wikipedia list that your average tumblr poster would find a tad special snowflakey. I couldn't feasibly give less of a poo poo why he's popular with some people. I don't care why reactionary priests are popular in some religious communities either and I wouldn't hold all theists collectively responsible for them. Tezzor posted:Those reactionaries are the ideological vanguard of the identity, its loudest voices and most visible faces. They define what an atheist is to many, many people, including many (most?) self-described atheists. This is actually a problem despite your pretending it isn't because you're too special to be associated with those bad folks It's very unfortunate that the loudest and most obnoxious voices can become representative of such a wildly diverse group but the fault never lies with the group that's being wrongfully perceived. Some people have decided that all Muslims are fundamentalists and terrorists but that's not the fault of muslims and they are not responsible for going door knocking to change those perceptions. Maybe one day people can admit to non-belief without it defining them and the media can bring them on in a context that's not about a confrontation or a heated argument and they could have a cup of tea and it would all be very chill.
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Oct 5, 2015 10:31
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Tezzor posted:Those reactionaries are the ideological vanguard of the identity, its loudest voices and most visible faces. They define what an atheist is to many, many people, including many (most?) self-described atheists. This is actually a problem despite your pretending it isn't because you're too special to be associated with those bad folks It's not really a problem.
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Oct 5, 2015 10:49
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Tezzor posted:Those reactionaries are the ideological vanguard of the identity, its loudest voices and most visible faces. They define what an atheist is to many, many people, including many (most?) self-described atheists. This is actually a problem despite your pretending it isn't because you're too special to be associated with those bad folks moooslims are best represented by the saudi upper class and/or ISIS 
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Oct 5, 2015 11:51
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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Atheism already killed millions in the 20th century, are people really surprised there's been more victims now?
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Oct 5, 2015 11:51
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WitchFetish posted:Atheism already killed millions in the 20th century, are people really surprised there's been more victims now? This comes up a lot but I don't think it's really "atheism" that did all that.
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Oct 5, 2015 11:53
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Tezzor posted:Those reactionaries are the ideological vanguard of the identity, its loudest voices and most visible faces. They define what an atheist is to many, many people, including many (most?) self-described atheists. This is actually a problem despite your pretending it isn't because you're too special to be associated with those bad folks I think you're confusing reddit with real life.
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Oct 5, 2015 12:14
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Huh. What I read suggested he was a Satanist. http://www.people.com/article/oregon-shooting-gunman-had-obsession-satan http://www.inquisitr.com/2468828/chris-harper-mercer-manifest-oregon-shooter-was-afraid-he-would-die-friendless-and-a-virgin/ E: And not one of the fun kind, the kind that actually worships Satan, not Ken Kesey.
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Oct 5, 2015 12:55
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How are there this many people that have never seen a Tezzor thread before?
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Oct 5, 2015 14:02
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OwlFancier posted:This comes up a lot but I don't think it's really "atheism" that did all that. Well, absolute disregard for religion and human life are things that atheism and the socialisms (national socialism, bolshevism, stalinism...) shared so it's not much of a stretch, really.
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Oct 5, 2015 14:22
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Planet Earth About to be Recycled
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Oct 5, 2015 14:27
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WitchFetish posted:Well, absolute disregard for religion and human life are things that atheism and the socialisms (national socialism, bolshevism, stalinism...) shared so it's not much of a stretch, really. I think possibly the former from the latter, rather than the latter from the former?
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Oct 5, 2015 15:09
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WitchFetish posted:Well, absolute disregard for religion and human life are things that atheism and the socialisms (national socialism, bolshevism, stalinism...) shared so it's not much of a stretch, really.  .....what?
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Oct 5, 2015 15:36
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WitchFetish posted:Well, absolute disregard for religion and human life are things that atheism and the socialisms (national socialism, bolshevism, stalinism...) shared so it's not much of a stretch, really. Can't believe people are biting on such low hanging fruit.
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Oct 5, 2015 15:56
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Anosmoman posted:You seem to have a firm grasp on the opinions of a group of people that includes gnostic and agnostic atheists, the Brights, naturalists, sceptics, Buddhists, Raelians, Wiccans, Christian atheists, satanists, scientologists, people who believe in “something more” and atheists who believe in astrology, Big Foot and ghosts and innumerable other groups. Buddhists aren't atheists.
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Oct 5, 2015 16:57
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Anosmoman posted:I couldn't feasibly give less of a poo poo why he's popular with some people. I don't care why reactionary priests are popular in some religious communities either and I wouldn't hold all theists collectively responsible for them. I'm so sorry that some people have decided to affiliate you with the most assholish members of your ideology but look on the bright side all you're getting is mean words on the internet and not official discrimination and a ceaseless rain of high explosive
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Oct 5, 2015 17:09
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forkboy84 posted:Can't believe people are biting on such low hanging fruit. I can.
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Oct 5, 2015 17:50
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Effectronica posted:Buddhists aren't atheists. Do you think that one of the Buddhas was a deity?
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Oct 5, 2015 17:53
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WitchFetish posted:Well, absolute disregard for religion and human life are things that atheism and the socialisms (national socialism, bolshevism, stalinism...) shared so it's not much of a stretch, really. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOnIp69r6vg
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Who What Now posted:Do you think that one of the Buddhas was a deity? All Buddhas are deities outside the framework of Buddhism, but even within the framework you have asuras and devas.
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Oct 5, 2015 19:55
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Effectronica posted:All Buddhas are deities outside the framework of Buddhism, but even within the framework you have asuras and devas. Not all Buddhists believe in asuras and devas, and I'm not sure you could consider those to be "gods" in a traditional sense, but fair enough.
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Who What Now posted:Not all Buddhists believe in asuras and devas, and I'm not sure you could consider those to be "gods" in a traditional sense, but fair enough. Those people are the Buddhist equivalent of Jews for Jesus at best, and there's no reason to let Christian notions of divinity define all our knowledge of religion.
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Jarmak posted:I think you're confusing reddit with real life. You can't accuse people of not recognising things they have never seen evidence of. Also, let's start the religion of shitposting to enrich the minds of the unbelieving heathen who at some point were vaguely associated with the original sin of mean words.
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