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Gaunab posted:If Specter is bad that means every odd numbered Daniel Craig bond movie is good and every even numbered one is bad. No, it means that Casino Royale was an oddity and Daniel Craig was the weakest Bond yet. QoS and Skyfall were boring as poo poo and Craig was terrible in both of them.
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i hope the next bond is a woman or a black man
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Nov 6, 2015 06:35
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BigBoss posted:No, it means that Casino Royale was an oddity and Daniel Craig was the weakest Bond yet. QoS and Skyfall were boring as poo poo and Craig was terrible in both of them. agreed. CR is one of my top 5 and loving excellent, but hot drat Craig really phoned it in QoS and Skyfall and both those weren't good. he should just stick to making movies like Layer Cake actually it's kind of funny since Goldeneye is also a top 5 for me but all the other Brosnan ones loving suck. basically the first "reboot" bond movie is always v good and everything after sucks.
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Nov 6, 2015 06:39
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BigBoss posted:No, it means that Casino Royale was an oddity and Daniel Craig was the weakest Bond yet. QoS and Skyfall were boring as poo poo and Craig was terrible in both of them. QoS was really forgettable; I only remember seeing it in theaters and being amazed by how badly it was shot. Skyfall had some interesting things and was pretty much carried by Javier Bardem. The stuff at the end involving Bond's family was unnecessary though.
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Nov 6, 2015 06:47
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Just got done watching Spectre. 2 1/2 hours long, should have been cut to 1:45. Some nice callbacks to older movies in the series but overall still felt kinda flat. Daniel Craig is so checked out its not even funny, just sad. Also, personal taste, but a film about an alcoholic, sex-addicted, compassionless professional killer boning and murdering his way through international espionage shouldn't be PG-13. I'm not sure who this movie was made for, beyond its obvious existence as a result of contractual obligation. I actually found myself thinking fondly about "View to a Kill" several times during the film. That's one of my favorite Bond movies. At least I had some friends along to make fun of this dull new entry into what should be an exciting franchise after it was over.
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Nov 6, 2015 06:53
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Well poo poo. How was Christoph Waltz?
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Nov 6, 2015 08:10
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nomadologique posted:it was good but it wasn't fantastic, the morality was unbelievably stupid and simplistic and the "spectator" character was literally unnecessary except to justify this idiotic morality, the movie was very visually beautiful but the storytelling felt like it came from before 1950 there was literally no nuance and no indication that anyone had had a single critical thought about the implications of their own story you're dumb and gay but mostly dumb and gay
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Nov 6, 2015 09:14
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Pvt.Scott posted:Just got done watching Spectre. 2 1/2 hours long, should have been cut to 1:45. Some nice callbacks to older movies in the series but overall still felt kinda flat. Daniel Craig is so checked out its not even funny, just sad. I can't tell if Craig is just really tired and has been phoning it in past several flicks because he doesn't give a gently caress anymore and knows it's stupid; or if he's trying too hard to pull a 'detached emotionless' character prolly the former.
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Nov 6, 2015 09:16
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James Bond is supposed to have style and class and be all smooth and Daniel Craig is better suited to play a dumb mob thug in a guy ritche movie.
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Nov 6, 2015 09:55
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I enjoyed it. It's not as good as Casino or Skyfall, but it's enjoyable enough. The Moonraker of the Craig era. Still better than Quantum.
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Nov 6, 2015 10:09
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NotWearingPants posted:James Bond is supposed to have style and class and be all smooth and Daniel Craig is better suited to play a dumb mob thug in a guy ritche movie. I thought that was the whole point of casting him and why CR was so good. John le Carre criticised Fleming for creating a "spy" who wasn't a spy but, as you put it, "a dumb mob thug". To paraphrase le Carre, Bond doesn't give a poo poo about any of the things an actual spy would need to know or care about, like global or local politics or the effects of anything he does. He basically goes around murdering people and blowing poo poo up, hence "licence to kill". Craig was the antidote both to the lounge lizard Moore, who played Fleming's murderous overgrown public schoolboy straight, and the archly postmodern Brosnan, who couldn't play Bond straight for a single second. I thought Skyfall was bloated and awful, but Craig's Bond is still the best for me because he's closer than the rest to what you'd expect from an actual dumb mob thug whose life's work is killing for the British government.
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Nov 6, 2015 10:55
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Went for the Christoph Waltz, left with barely any. He practically had a minor role in the film but when you do see him he is good. Most half-assed lovely Craig bond film yet. None of the characters are fleshed out. There's not even any scenes with Craig boning a chick. Just when poo poo gets good, the film instantly cuts to Austria or London or wherever the gently caress. It's like a social justice warrior did all the editing for this loving thing.
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Nov 6, 2015 11:15
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New bond is kind of like he's a playboy jason borne and I'm down with that
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Nov 6, 2015 11:17
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Is Spectre any good in Imax if somebody gave me a Regal gold coupon and I don't know what the gently caress to do with it?
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Nov 6, 2015 11:22
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How much is Monica Belluci in it?
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Nov 6, 2015 15:46
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Gaunab posted:Sicario was good wicked swicario
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Nov 6, 2015 15:55
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Saga posted:I thought that was the whole point of casting him and why CR was so good. John le Carre criticised Fleming for creating a "spy" who wasn't a spy but, as you put it, "a dumb mob thug". To paraphrase le Carre, Bond doesn't give a poo poo about any of the things an actual spy would need to know or care about, like global or local politics or the effects of anything he does. He basically goes around murdering people and blowing poo poo up, hence "licence to kill". Connery was a mob thug until he was educated in how to walk and talk for the role, which is what makes him the perfect bond.
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Nov 6, 2015 16:46
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Saga posted:I thought that was the whole point of casting him and why CR was so good. John le Carre criticised Fleming for creating a "spy" who wasn't a spy but, as you put it, "a dumb mob thug". To paraphrase le Carre, Bond doesn't give a poo poo about any of the things an actual spy would need to know or care about, like global or local politics or the effects of anything he does. He basically goes around murdering people and blowing poo poo up, hence "licence to kill". As a colossal autist I feel compelled to point out that there's a difference between "spy" and "secret agent". A spy is a guy who blends in to the enemy and pretends to be one of them. A secret agent is a guy like Bond whose job it is to kill motherfuckers for Her Majesty and make witty action hero wisecracks afterwards.
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Nov 6, 2015 17:06
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvSHbaA4ep8 He's right y'know.
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Nov 6, 2015 17:07
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mind the walrus posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvSHbaA4ep8 Nah, he's just a pithy lil slapfighter who will be echoed by others with no sense of wonder, enjoyment or love because working the IT help desk for whatever place was desperate enough to hire on community college drop outs for 15/hr has killed their ability to love
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Nov 6, 2015 17:10
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Goldeneye was really good but it had that weird beach scene where they talk about the morality of killing "It's what keeps me alive" "no it's what keeps you alone" that was pretty bad and felt like it was from another movie.
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Nov 6, 2015 17:12
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You people have apparently never seen older Bond movies. How about where he gets out of trouble by jumping from Alligator to Alligator across the death pond. Or where he pretends to be a clown. The newer bond movies are all pretty good compared to those steaming piles.
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Nov 6, 2015 17:14
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jlechem posted:You people have apparently never seen older Bond movies. How about where he gets out of trouble by jumping from Alligator to Alligator across the death pond. Or where he pretends to be a clown. The newer bond movies are all pretty good compared to those steaming piles. That alligator stunt is actually really cool and impressive irl but it looks lame as hell onscreen. There's a video of the guy trying it over and over and he keeps falling and having to scramble away from the alligators before they bite him.
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Nov 6, 2015 17:24
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Booblord Zagats posted:Nah, he's just a pithy lil slapfighter who will be echoed by others with no sense of wonder, enjoyment or love because working the IT help desk for whatever place was desperate enough to hire on community college drop outs for 15/hr has killed their ability to love He's still right though.
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Nov 6, 2015 17:45
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mind the walrus posted:He's still right though. No sir. I think you are not correct in this assesment but I appreciate you taking the time to post
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Nov 6, 2015 17:47
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How graciously smug of you. Do you have any substantial thoughts on his actual words or is life just not worthwhile if you're not calling nerds pedophiles and failures?
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Nov 6, 2015 17:50
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jlechem posted:You people have apparently never seen older Bond movies. How about where he gets out of trouble by jumping from Alligator to Alligator across the death pond. Or where he pretends to be a clown. The newer bond movies are all pretty good compared to those steaming piles. Yeah, how dare people be entertained or have fun? We love the dark Bond. So gritty and bland, like a 1000 mile stretch of asphalt extending off to the horizon.
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Nov 6, 2015 17:55
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So is Ernst Blofeld in this or what?jlechem posted:You people have apparently never seen older Bond movies. How about where he gets out of trouble by jumping from Alligator to Alligator across the death pond. Or where he pretends to be a clown. The newer bond movies are all pretty good compared to those steaming piles. He also disarmed a nuclear bomb while dressed as that clown and later banged a lady named Octopussy. Peak Moore Didn't Moore have a Lotus that turned into a submarine in one of them?
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Nov 6, 2015 17:58
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Arian_Samurai posted:So is Ernst Blofeld in this or what? elon musk bought it
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Nov 6, 2015 17:58
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mind the walrus posted:How graciously smug of you. By trying to breakdown a series of movies taking place between nearly 60 years in to a vomited array of cliches, tropes and problematic loopholes he doesn't seem to grasp that the movie going public simply aren't keyboard critics who simply do not give two poo poo about the thematic usage of color and story beats and instead simply want to see a bad-rear end broad-strokes painting of a British gentleman single-handedly annihilate every single person between him and his goals and slam out women so beautiful they literally have a subsection of the most attractive women in film NAMED AFTER THEM. James Bond is a classic series that's outlived countless others simply because it knows what it wants to be. Never underestimate the power of an action movie with a penchant for the better things. There have been bad Bond films, and there will be others in the future no doubt, but as a whole, the series endures, people argue over the best Bond to this day and will often bring up people who played the character decades before their birth. These are signs of a series that is beyond having to impress some neck-beard with a Youtube account and the echoing fanclub. James Bond isn't a film series, it is, at the very core a collection of very well choreographed action sequences and one-liners with amazingly beautiful women on the fringes, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. That is a genre in and of itself and most people, who haven't been grounded down to the pathetic level of internet sassy fatman, seem to enjoy them just fine. I'm sorry a secret agent became your step-dad and told you Princess Mononoke was gay, but seriously dude, Bond owns
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Nov 6, 2015 20:10
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Internet Sassy Fatman should be a donation level.
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Roger Moore best Bond ever.
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