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CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Slanderer posted:

Did I say they were justified? No, moron. Were they justified? Of course not, you dumb poo poo.

Did they think they were? Of course they did

Based on his last performance review, that cop couldn't even tell if he was justified to go to the bathroom on his own, let alone end a human life.

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Slanderer
May 6, 2007

CommieGIR posted:

Based on his last performance review, that cop couldn't even tell if he was justified to go to the bathroom on his own, let alone end a human life.

So you're arguing he's not competent for trial because of how dumb he is? You are gonna let him get away with murder? Why are you so happy that Tamir is dead?

Cop lovers like you just make me sick.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Slanderer posted:

So you're arguing he's not competent for trial because of how dumb he is? You are gonna let him get away with murder? Why are you so happy that Tamir is dead?

Cop lovers like you just make me sick.


Slanderer posted:

are you an actual poster, or just a markov chain generator seeded by LF rejects? do we even have the technology to automatically generate shitposts such as yours?

C'mon now, if you are going to throw personal insults around, don't live up to your own insults.

Slanderer
May 6, 2007

CommieGIR posted:

C'mon now, if you are going to throw personal insults around, don't live up to your own insults.

Don't break the 4th wall of your shitpost gimmick

C2C - 2.0
May 14, 2006

Dubs In The Key Of Life


Lipstick Apathy

Slanderer posted:

Hmm yes you're right, I'm sure those lovely cops believed that they weren't legally justified when they pulled the trigger, you willfully dense piece of poo poo

If they felt that they were legally justified in killing him, then why falsify the police report?

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Slanderer posted:

So you're arguing he's not competent for trial because of how dumb he is? You are gonna let him get away with murder? Why are you so happy that Tamir is dead?

Cop lovers like you just make me sick.

Are you having a breakdown?

Slanderer
May 6, 2007

C2C - 2.0 posted:

If they felt that they were legally justified in killing him, then why falsify the police report?

To cover their asses after they realized that they probably hosed up. "feeling that your actions are legally justified" is an entirely subjective thing, and will obviously change. But them realized they hosed up after the fact doesn't retroactively change their belief that they were justified at the moment of the shooting.

Slanderer fucked around with this message at 05:30 on Jan 3, 2016

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Slanderer posted:

To cover their asses after they realized that they probably hosed up. "feeling that your actions are legally justified" is an entirely subjective thing, and will obviously change. But them realized they hosed up after the fact doesn't retroactively change their belief that they were justified at the moment of the shooting.

Whether or not they felt justified does not counter a murder charge, especially when you purposefully falsify police reports AND don't even bother to follow department procedure prior to the encounter anyways, unless it's always been department procedure to conduct drive by shootings.

Dead Reckoning
Sep 13, 2011

CommieGIR posted:

Whether or not they felt justified does not counter a murder charge, especially when you purposefully falsify police reports AND don't even bother to follow department procedure prior to the encounter anyways, unless it's always been department procedure to conduct drive by shootings.
Actually, if they reasonably believed that their conduct was lawful, it seems like that would invalidate the "malice aforethought" element you bolded in your quote, because the guy who pulled the trigger would not be intending to kill someone unlawfully. Whether or not they followed department procedure isn't directly material to the lawfulness of their actions.

Ogmius815
Aug 25, 2005
centrism is a hell of a drug

Maybe you should look up the Ohio murder statute instead of reading the common law definition on Wikipedia?

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Dead Reckoning posted:

Actually, if they reasonably believed that their conduct was lawful, it seems like that would invalidate the "malice aforethought" element you bolded in your quote, because the guy who pulled the trigger would not be intending to kill someone unlawfully. Whether or not they followed department procedure isn't directly material to the lawfulness of their actions.

Yeah, I'm not buying this argument for one moment.

Belief that they were at risk of immediate harm does not support their method of engagement, actions, or the fact that they lied and falsified everything they could.

Unless you are sincerely arguing that rolling up on a suspect and shooting them through the rolled down window without warning is a valid method of engaging one, you can stop trying to dress it up from a point of legality. The instant they chose that method to engage Tamir, they lost all legality.

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exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
These general law enforcement threads just aren't working out. As always, somebody can make a thread for the next incident that happens.

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