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Feedback Agency posted:what is irony? we just don't know? It's like rain on your wedding day. DiHK easily claims top of page 2
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Applewhite posted:Still need to finish that book. Thanks for reminding me, OP. fair warning: when you stare into the world of tennis, the world of tennis also stares into you
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# ? Feb 2, 2016 22:34 |
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32MB OF ESRAM posted:i found a 30mg gel cap of hydromorph contin the other day you should put it in your rear end, obviously
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# ? Feb 2, 2016 22:35 |
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every time i pull out the hacky sack it's like phermones and the ladies flock 2 me to watch me roll the limp half-filled hacky-sack off to the padded toe of my white DC shoes, sending the sack aloft before it lands, nestled tightly between two of my fattest dreads
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# ? Feb 2, 2016 22:35 |
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PBS Newshour posted:hey what do you call an android really into theater? that gay robot
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# ? Feb 2, 2016 22:36 |
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Feedback Agency posted:what is irony? tfw bae sold he watch to buy u a comb and u sold ur hair to buy him a watch fob
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MiracleWhale posted:that gay robot this gay robot?
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# ? Feb 2, 2016 22:57 |
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Infinite Jest is more physically difficult to read than mentally. It's much longer than it needs to be, there are walls of text everywhere, and you have to flip to the footnotes constantly or miss out on some entire character arcs. Get the eBook or don't read it at all IMO.
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Planarch posted:Infinite Jest is more physically difficult to read than mentally. It's much longer than it needs to be, there are walls of text everywhere, and you have to flip to the footnotes constantly or miss out on some entire character arcs. Get the eBook or don't read it at all IMO. that is the whole point of the footnotes
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# ? Feb 3, 2016 01:00 |
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I don't see why people think that writers have some special insight into the human condition. They just have a word processor and lots of time alone.
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# ? Feb 3, 2016 01:36 |
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I prefer the works of a certain, and I quote, "Niggerstomper". They seem more succinct and lucid on the question of self and irony.
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# ? Feb 3, 2016 01:39 |
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“Infinite Jest” is unquestionably the novel of its generation. As a member (barely) of the generation Wallace was part of, and as a writer whose closest friends are writers (most of whom are Wallace fans), and as someone who first read “Infinite Jest” at perhaps the perfect age (22, as a Peace Corps volunteer in Uzbekistan), my testimony on this point may well be riddled with partisanship. So allow me to drop the mask of the introducer to show the homely face of a fan, and much later a friend, of David Wallace. As I read “Infinite Jest” in the dark early mornings before my Uzbek language class, I could hear my host mother talking to the chickens in the barn on the other side of my bedroom wall as she flung scatters of feed before them. I could hear the cows stirring, and then their deep monstrous mooing, along with the compound’s approximately 10,000 wild cats moving in the crawl space directly above my bed. What I am trying to say is that it should have been difficult to focus on the doings of Hal Incandenza, Don Gately, Rémy Marathe and Madame Psychosis. But it wasn’t. I read for hours that way, morning after morning, my mind awhirl. For the first few hundred pages of my initial reading, I will confess that I greatly disliked “Infinite Jest.” Why? Jealousy, frustration, impatience. It’s hard to remember exactly why. It wasn’t until I was writing letters to my girlfriend, and describing to her my fellow Peace Corps volunteers and host-family members and long walks home through old Soviet collectivized farmland in what I would categorize as yellow-belt Wallaceian prose, that I realized how completely the book had rewired me. Here is one of the great Wallace innovations: the revelatory power of freakishly thorough noticing, of corralling and controlling detail. Most great prose writers make the real world seem realer — it’s why we read great prose writers. But Wallace does something weirder, something more astounding: Even when you’re not reading him, he trains you to study the real world through the lens of his prose. Several writers’ names have become adjectivized — Kafkaesque, Orwellian, Dickensian — but these are designators of mood, of situation, of civic decay. The Wallaceian is not a description of something external; it describes something that happens ecstatically within, a state of apprehension (in both senses) and understanding. He didn’t name a condition, in other words. He created one.
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# ? Feb 3, 2016 03:22 |
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Thought the op would be permabanned user niggerstomper58
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# ? Feb 3, 2016 03:38 |
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didn't DFW hate that people only saw IJ for its irony
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Lawrence Gilchrist posted:and as someone who first read “Infinite Jest” at perhaps the perfect age (22, as a Peace Corps volunteer in Uzbekistan) jesus christ
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# ? Feb 3, 2016 09:01 |
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mdm posted:jesus christ There's more good poo poo in the article but I didn't want to post a wall of text or link to a paywall site
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# ? Feb 3, 2016 16:54 |
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He was my professor in college
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Black Baby Goku posted:He was my professor in college hilarious and ironic anecdotes please
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ArmZ posted:hilarious and ironic anecdotes please Don't hold your breath, last time this happened BBG wept tears of bitter scholarship for his irony mentor
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 00:44 |
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I am ironic to the point of sincerity. And soberness.
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 00:49 |
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quote:im permabanned poster niggerstomper58. i first started reading fyad when i was about 12. by 14 i got really obsessed with the concept of “irony” and tried to channel it constantly, until my thought process got really bizarre and i would repeat things like “friend of the family balls” and “i love making GBS threads inside friend of the family assholes” in my head for hours, and i would get really paranoid, start seeing things in the corners of my eyes etc, basically prodromal schizophrenia. im now on antipsychotics. i always wondered what the kind of “ironic” style of fyad humor was all about; i think it’s the unconscious leaking in to the conscious, what jungian theory considered to be the cause of schizophrenic and schizotypal syptoms. i would advise all people who “get” fyad to be careful because that likely means you have a predisposition to a mental illness. peace.
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Lawrence Gilchrist posted:“Infinite Jest” is unquestionably the novel of its generation. As a member (barely) of the generation Wallace was part of, and as a writer whose closest friends are writers (most of whom are Wallace fans), and as someone who first read “Infinite Jest” at perhaps the perfect age (22, as a Peace Corps volunteer in Uzbekistan), my testimony on this point may well be riddled with partisanship. So allow me to drop the mask of the introducer to show the homely face of a fan, and much later a friend, of David Wallace. Pfffff human being. I read infinite jest at age 27 in and out of a men's drug withdrawal clinic while attending narcotics anonymous meetings. It's not THAT loving great. It's a really good book but it's not timeless, it's just good. After reading it I tackled gravity's rainbow and that was WAY better. Pynchon is a poet where Wallace is a journalist. In the realm of fiction, which do you think makes for better reading? Wallace's prose is just amateur in comparison. I did get a good laugh out of Hal's underground smoke spot being described as "unfenestrated" though. That and the eschatology game were really the best parts of the book imo.
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 01:07 |
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If you guys end up getting all introspective I'll take your drugs.
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 01:10 |
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Infinite Jest BY DAVID FOSTER WALLACE - A LOT OF PEOPLE TAKE MORE EASILY TO DFW'S NON-FICTION, BUT TO SHY AWAY FROM HIS FICTION IS TO SHY AWAY FROM SOMETHING REMARKABLE (JUST IN A RATHER DIFFERENT WAY). BECAUSE THIS NOVEL IS SOMETHING... ELSE. WHAT'S FUNNY IS YOU'LL OFTEN HEAR A BUNCH OF PEOPLE WHINE ABOUT DFW'S FICTION, SAYING THAT HE JUST RIPPED OF PYNCHON OR SOMETHING, BUT THAT'S THE SAME PEOPLE WHO FALL FOR THE FORM OF THE THING INSTEAD OF THE FUNCTION AND DON'T ACTUALLY GET WHAT'S GOING ON (WE CAN PUT THEM IN SAME CLASS OF PEOPLE WHO DISMISS DE PALMA AS A HITCHCOCK RIP-OFF ARTIST). FOR INFINITE JEST IS SO GRAND. SO ACHING. AND SO... TROUBLING. IT'S LIKE DIVING INTO THE HEART OF LITERARY METAPHYSICS AND ONE CANNOT HELP BUT FEEL LOST WITHIN ITS REALM. QUITE HONESTLY, A READ-THROUGH ONCE GAVE HULK AN EXISTENTIAL CRISIS... WHICH IS NOT EASY FOR A BOOK THAT TAKES MOST PEOPLE ENTIRE SUMMERS TO GET THROUGH. AND WHILE NOT SPELLED OUT, IT ISN'T TILL THE END THAT YOU REALIZE THE CRUEL JOKE AT THE HEART OF THE NARRATIVE AND ALSO THE WONDEROUS NATURE OF THE EXPERIENCE ITSELF: THAT YOU'RE NOT READY TO READ INFINITE JEST UNTIL YOU'VE ALREADY READ INFINITE JEST (MAKING IT JUST ONE OF THE MANY "INFINITE JESTS" IN THE BOOK). BUT THE WARINESS OF FALLING INTO THE LABYRINTH-LIKE CYCLE OF A BOOK THIS DENSE AND BYZANTINE IS ALSO THE SAME THING THAT BECOMES BEAUTIFULLY FREEING ABOUT THE PROCESS. IT'S NOT A PUZZLE TO BE PUT TOGETHER (THOUGH THERE'S SOME FUN IN TRYING). IF ONE KNOWS THEY WILL SIMPLY GET LOST IN IT AT ALL THEN WE CAN JUST ACCEPT IT. WE CAN JUST SOAK IN THE WATERS OF WHAT IT OFFERS MOMENT TO MOMENT, UNBOUND FROM THE WORRY OF NARRATIVE FRAGMENTATION. AND IN THE END, THE MODERNITY OF IT ALL ONLY ENDS UP UPHOLDING (GOD THIS SENTENCE) SOMETHING BRAVE AND BRIGHT AND KIND. AND IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE HULK, JUST READ IT... IF YOU GET TO THE LIST OF "THINGS YOU CAN LEARN AT A HALF-WAY HOUSE" THEN YOU'LL SEE WHERE YOU STAND.
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Illavick posted:Pfffff human being. I read infinite jest at age 27 in and out of a men's drug withdrawal clinic while attending narcotics anonymous meetings. It's not THAT loving great. It's a really good book but it's not timeless, it's just good. After reading it I tackled gravity's rainbow and that was WAY better. Pynchon is a poet where Wallace is a journalist. In the realm of fiction, which do you think makes for better reading? Wallace's prose is just amateur in comparison. I did get a good laugh out of Hal's underground smoke spot being described as "unfenestrated" though. That and the eschatology game were really the best parts of the book imo. Journalism is the realm of fiction
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 01:11 |
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hmm yes 90s white male; the book
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 01:12 |
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mdm posted:Journalism is the realm of fiction touche but maybe I should have said news reporter instead of journalist. I have failed in articulating myself and will now shove a spiked dildo up my rear end in penance.
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 01:15 |
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The book doesn't end, so once you read it you need to go back to the beginning. That's the "Infinite Jest." Isn't that brilliant? *hangs himself*
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 01:16 |
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roymorrison posted:hmm yes 90s white male; the book ROFL
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 01:38 |
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I prefer to think of it as Pearl Jam: The Drugs and Tennis Mix Tape
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Sandusky Kenshin posted:The book doesn't end, so once you read it you need to go back to the beginning. That's the "Infinite Jest." Isn't that brilliant? *hangs himself* not true once you finish it you can go on to another book
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 02:33 |
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i enjoyed infinite jest in high school and would prob still enjoy parts of it now.
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 03:14 |
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post the quote
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 04:03 |
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Thank you I was waiting for this!
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Sandusky Kenshin posted:The book doesn't end, so once you read it you need to go back to the beginning. That's the "Infinite Jest." Isn't that brilliant? *hangs himself* David foster wallart
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 04:33 |
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i have a drinking problem and love posting im NOT drinking right now (cause that would be breaking the forums rules and I'd never do that )
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 05:07 |
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Nooner posted:i have a drinking problem and love posting im NOT drinking right now (cause that would be breaking the forums rules and I'd never do that ) glad a straight edge nerd wrote those rules because i am high as gently caress basically 24/7. weed fuckin RULES
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32MB OF ESRAM posted:glad a straight edge nerd wrote those rules because i am high as gently caress basically 24/7. weed fuckin RULES SWIM thinks that w33d is also a very good choice. not my favorite i prefer liquor but it is def a good 2nd and pro tier choice
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# ? Feb 4, 2016 05:59 |
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gargle chome posted:jesus dude get help i tried anti-heroine to stop the shakes but most anti-heroines are cast with crones
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irony is bad - man who killed self
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