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Undead Hippo posted:Have you ever read the Kurt Vonnegut novel "Timequake"? Everybody in the world has their consciousness sent back 10 years in time, only to realise that their actions are deterministic and that they repeat every action they had previously done, step by step, with their consciousness not directing matters. Actually I would have died after the first wish. I would be transported back in time, but not in space to 1999. I would find that the earth has moved and I am just floating out in space with seconds to live.
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# ? Mar 18, 2016 23:45 |
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# ? Apr 25, 2024 07:25 |
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I wish that you will not grant this wish.
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# ? Mar 19, 2016 04:16 |
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Cockmaster posted:I wish that you will not grant this wish. Your wish has already been granted.
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# ? Mar 19, 2016 04:20 |
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"I wish that you are incapable of lying" " I wish that you would say the following exact words: 'This statement is false.'" I don't think anything good would come of it, I just wanna see what would happen.
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# ? Mar 19, 2016 06:47 |
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I already asked it for the 2016 election season to be more interesting
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# ? Mar 19, 2016 09:23 |
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I wish that modus ponens is invalid.
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# ? Mar 19, 2016 18:35 |
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I'd wish for Texas to be given back to Mexico.
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# ? Mar 19, 2016 21:27 |
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Beaters posted:I'd wish for Texas to be given back to Mexico. If the US ever gets weak enough to allow that, it probably would not be a first world country any longer.
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# ? Mar 19, 2016 23:33 |
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paragon1 posted:"I wish that you are incapable of lying" I'm not sure it would even do anything. Like, the genie might just utter sounds resembling the words "This", "statement", "is", and "false", separated by 0.1 second gaps, without actually meaning "this statement is false".
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# ? Mar 20, 2016 15:56 |
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DrSunshine posted:I'm not sure it would even do anything. Like, the genie might just utter sounds resembling the words "This", "statement", "is", and "false", separated by 0.1 second gaps, without actually meaning "this statement is false". again, if the genie can just make up bullshit then it doesn't matter what you wish because he's just going to do whatever he wants and then turn around and say "oh the words you said can also mean this on certain days in the Horsehead nebula, so sorry for the confusion", rendering the whole exercise pointless
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# ? Mar 20, 2016 16:02 |
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paragon1 posted:again, if the genie can just make up bullshit then it doesn't matter what you wish because he's just going to do whatever he wants and then turn around and say "oh the words you said can also mean this on certain days in the Horsehead nebula, so sorry for the confusion", rendering the whole exercise pointless Well, thinking of it that way, I guess what the framing of the problem is is to pose the question of whether or not it's possible to phrase any given statement X such that X has only one possible interpretable meaning in any language. Which is ultimately, I think, a philosophical question that gets at whether words have set meanings and act as vehicles for carrying information, or if meanings are constructed according to the listener. But if the latter is the case, how can we communicate at all?
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# ? Mar 20, 2016 16:53 |
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Beaters posted:I'd wish for Texas to be given back to Mexico. Same, but Arizona instead.
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# ? Mar 20, 2016 17:46 |
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StandardVC10 posted:Same, but Arizona instead. Same, but California instead.
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# ? Mar 20, 2016 18:37 |
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Presumably if you make a wish that changes the rules of wishing, either that wish or the follow-up wish that violates the new rules would be void. You can't wish to make people fall in love or wish that you could wish to make people fall in love either.
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# ? Mar 20, 2016 19:19 |
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I'd ask for a 10 minute phone call with Elon Musk Would the genie grant my wish in an area with no signal or something
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# ? Mar 21, 2016 06:42 |
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I think if you wished for perpetually enflamed herpes the genie wouldn't bother making it worse so same rule applies.
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# ? Mar 21, 2016 18:26 |
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awesome-express posted:I'd ask for a 10 minute phone call with Elon Musk Musk mistakes you for a timeshare salesman and yells at you the entire time, just absolutely furious that his private number got leaked. Or Musk refuses to speak English in favor of Afrikaans. I wish for the best hat.
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Unbelievably Fat Man posted:I think if you wished for perpetually enflamed herpes the genie wouldn't bother making it worse so same rule applies. You didn't specify where.
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# ? Mar 22, 2016 00:19 |
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*PUNCH* posted:
The catholic church becomes extraordinarily upset at you for stealing the Pope's hat.
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# ? Mar 22, 2016 02:34 |
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paragon1 posted:The catholic church becomes extraordinarily upset at you for stealing the Pope's hat. In terms of malicious consequences, this is pretty alright.
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# ? Mar 22, 2016 05:23 |
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paragon1 posted:Besides everyone knows djinn are Muslim. They predate Islam, its certainly middle eastern mythology though. Also even in Islam they are described to be of free will, they can be any religion.
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# ? Mar 22, 2016 11:26 |
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*PUNCH* posted:I wish for the best hat. For one brief moment you realize the genie subscribes to the notion that bigger is better before the hat collapses into a supermassive black hole and destroys the solar system.
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