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Tell us more about how late capitalism is a dated theme
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Nov 22, 2016 09:13
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A human heart posted:Tell us more about how late capitalism is a dated theme It's the same problem doomsday cults have. You can only predict a near-future radical breakdown so many times before it starts losing credibility. On a more genre-specific note, while the concept of multinational corporations replacing traditional nation-states as the movers and shakers of world events may have been the logical extension of the era of Reagan, it just doesn't fit with historical trends. The few centuries have seen a steady increase in the power of sovereign governments and a steady decrease in the power of corporations. There was a time where the British East India Company raised private armies and went to war with the Mughal government. There was a time where companies like British Petroleum and the United Fruit Company could dictate which democracies the US overthrew (Ajax and PBSuccess). While wealth is certainly still power and things like the military-industrial show no signs of stopping, if you take away the trenchcoats and mirrorshades Gibson's vision of company towns and corporate black ops squads looks more like the past than the future.
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Nov 23, 2016 00:59
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I disagree. The resource conflicts in Africa are going full swing. the Corporate influence is just more subtle. And under-reported.
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Nov 23, 2016 02:24
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I remember enjoying the first book of the 'Petrovich Trilogy' by Simon Morden back when I read it--I think the title is Equations of Life. It came in an omnibus kindle version. I never got around to reading the other two books in the trilogy, but it was pretty fast-paced and entertaining. It hits on a whole mess of familiar cyberpunk tropes--Yakuza, decaying city, gangs, cyberware, etc, and there's nothing super-original about it, but it scratched that cyberpunk itch.
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Nov 23, 2016 18:16
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Microcline posted:It's the same problem doomsday cults have. You can only predict a near-future radical breakdown so many times before it starts losing credibility.
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Nov 23, 2016 23:45
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WarLocke posted:Have you watched Person of Interest? It's on Netflix. I'm a little ashamed to admit that I like the *idea* of cyberpunk, but I've actually read very little of it. I've played my share of cyberpunk games and enjoyed a lot of genre movies, but I only just got around to starting Neuromancer this evening.
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Nov 27, 2016 06:47
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Xenomrph posted:I'd love to see an author write a neo-cyberpunk book, something that has all the trappings and tone of cyberpunk but has properly researched and factually correct computer science and technology. Like, if the book were transplanted into the 80s, it wouldn't seem at all out of place within the cyberpunk genre, while being 100% plausible in today's world. 'what the genre of cyberpunk needs is definitely hard facts and science' - man who hasn't read any cyberpunk Microcline posted:There was a time where companies like British Petroleum and the United Fruit Company could dictate which democracies the US overthrew (Ajax and PBSuccess). This still happens quite often.
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Nov 27, 2016 07:12
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A human heart posted:'what the genre of cyberpunk needs is definitely hard facts and science' - man who hasn't read any cyberpunk
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Nov 27, 2016 11:13
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A suggestion for something that maybe fits that bill, The Dervish House by Ian McDonald. It's set shortly in the future but the technology in it is all very believable extensions of what we have today, and maybe even conservative for 2027. He combines technology with human struggle in a way that does remind me of cyberpunk, even if it's not part of the genre.
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Nov 27, 2016 12:50
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What cyberpunk really needs is more pink mohawks.
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Nov 27, 2016 19:16
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Xenomrph posted:I'd love to see an author write a neo-cyberpunk book, something that has all the trappings and tone of cyberpunk but has properly researched and factually correct computer science and technology. Like, if the book were transplanted into the 80s, it wouldn't seem at all out of place within the cyberpunk genre, while being 100% plausible in today's world. Have you seen the TV series "Mr. Robot"? Because it's basically this.
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Nov 28, 2016 09:56
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Pretty excited to see that Altered Carbon filming is underway.  
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Dec 11, 2016 21:15
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Speaking of which, the TV show Falling Water is super obviously inspired by Gibson's Bigend Trilogy. The main character is a cool hunter named Tess that gets approached by a mysterious super-rich Eastern European billionaire for a secret project. It's dreams, not pants.
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Dec 11, 2016 21:21
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FuriousGeorge posted:Pretty excited to see that Altered Carbon filming is underway. !!!!!!!!!!!
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Dec 12, 2016 00:05
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precision posted:Speaking of which, the TV show Falling Water is super obviously inspired by Gibson's Bigend Trilogy. The main character is a cool hunter named Tess that gets approached by a mysterious super-rich Eastern European billionaire for a secret project. I really liked the reference to the Mall Ninja trend in the Blue Ant series. Too bad Gibson probably wasn't aware the original Mall Ninja was a SA poster messing with people in his free time.
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When is Gibson's next book coming out? I really liked The Peripheral.
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