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MassRafTer posted:Except every study shows that wrestling demographics are less educated and earn less than viewers of other sports or sport like activities. We can keep pretending it is going to change but it never does. You know who doesn't watch wrestling in big numbers? I just find it hard to believe those studies or that they can't change when it seems like every outlet for nerd news has a wrestling podcast or lets play or article or what have you lately. It seems to be spreading like wildfire among those communities and their young/valuable demographics. If its not finding a voice there, why would more new ones keep appearing, and not just among hobbiests like the OSW guys but full time Youtubers and Entertainment Sites who's livelihood depends on the content being clicked and watched, and why do they stick around instead of fading after one or two pilots?
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Jun 3, 2016 07:12
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smell this posted:does this brand split affect the scooby dude brand RAW gets Scooby, but Smackdown gets both Fred Flintstone and the cast of Surf's Up 2
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Jun 3, 2016 07:25
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smell this posted:does this brand split affect the scooby dude brand Scooby gets John Cena, the Lucha Dragons, and Big Show. Flintstones get Roman, the New Day, and I don't know Fandango or something
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Jun 3, 2016 07:32
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Sanguinia posted:I just find it hard to believe those studies or that they can't change when it seems like every outlet for nerd news has a wrestling podcast or lets play or article or what have you lately. It seems to be spreading like wildfire among those communities and their young/valuable demographics. If its not finding a voice there, why would more new ones keep appearing, and not just among hobbiests like the OSW guys but full time Youtubers and Entertainment Sites who's livelihood depends on the content being clicked and watched, and why do they stick around instead of fading after one or two pilots? This pretty much. I was always that girl in my friend group who liked wrestling but in the past couple years all my nerd friends have started asking me questions about it and stuff because a lot of the nerdy tastemakers talk about it constantly. Also it's important to note that basically all the demographic studies for pro wrestling are either intensely biased and heavily manipulated (the ones the WWE releases) or done in ways that are not ideal (the one that only measured people over the age of 18, the ones based off of Nielsen ratings), I think if you were to do a household study with a decent sample size and had it done by an outside company that isn't involved in the industry we would see some very interesting stats.
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Jun 3, 2016 09:05
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Sanguinia posted:I just find it hard to believe those studies or that they can't change when it seems like every outlet for nerd news has a wrestling podcast or lets play or article or what have you lately. It seems to be spreading like wildfire among those communities and their young/valuable demographics. If its not finding a voice there, why would more new ones keep appearing, and not just among hobbiests like the OSW guys but full time Youtubers and Entertainment Sites who's livelihood depends on the content being clicked and watched, and why do they stick around instead of fading after one or two pilots? Nerdy internet smarks are not wwes primary audience, uneducated poor people and children are which is why Roman reigns gets booed out of every building he's in but sells a ton of merch.
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Jun 3, 2016 12:41
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Sanguinia posted:I just find it hard to believe those studies or that they can't change when it seems like every outlet for nerd news has a wrestling podcast or lets play or article or what have you lately. It seems to be spreading like wildfire among those communities and their young/valuable demographics. If its not finding a voice there, why would more new ones keep appearing, and not just among hobbiests like the OSW guys but full time Youtubers and Entertainment Sites who's livelihood depends on the content being clicked and watched, and why do they stick around instead of fading after one or two pilots? At the end of the day traffic to these kinds of sites is a small percentage of wrestling's overall audience. Furthermore nerds are no longer smart math people they are fans of the most popular movie of all time. Literally everything encompasses "nerd culture." No matter how many of these sites spring up, WWE's median age keeps increasing and the demos never seem to change. Well, the percentage of women watching has increased, mostly because men have stopped watching in larger numbers than women. The female audience never really went up, it is just bleeding away slower.
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Jun 3, 2016 12:54
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Also, it can't be stressed enough that the poor and uneducated casual audience that makes up the majority are much better in all respects than the nerds. Smarter too.
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Jun 3, 2016 18:16
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Sanguinia posted:I just find it hard to believe those studies or that they can't change when it seems like every outlet for nerd news has a wrestling podcast or lets play or article or what have you lately. It seems to be spreading like wildfire among those communities and their young/valuable demographics. If its not finding a voice there, why would more new ones keep appearing, and not just among hobbiests like the OSW guys but full time Youtubers and Entertainment Sites who's livelihood depends on the content being clicked and watched, and why do they stick around instead of fading after one or two pilots? you are disproportionately encountering a very small part of the wrestling fanbase because you hang out on the internet. same reason why smarky blogs can't stop talking about Lucha Underground but if you leave that sphere, their audiences are tiny
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Jun 3, 2016 18:46
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Since when are gigantic sponsors like McDonald's and coca cola against selling to the poor and uneducated?
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Jun 3, 2016 19:20
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coke did advertise on wwe within the last year, they probably paid less than equivalent ads
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Jun 3, 2016 19:33
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MassRafTer posted:At the end of the day traffic to these kinds of sites is a small percentage of wrestling's overall audience. Furthermore nerds are no longer smart math people they are fans of the most popular movie of all time. Literally everything encompasses "nerd culture." No matter how many of these sites spring up, WWE's median age keeps increasing and the demos never seem to change. Well, the percentage of women watching has increased, mostly because men have stopped watching in larger numbers than women. The female audience never really went up, it is just bleeding away slower. heh you said women bleed away
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Jun 3, 2016 19:47
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Alain Post posted:you are disproportionately encountering a very small part of the wrestling fanbase because you hang out on the internet. same reason why smarky blogs can't stop talking about Lucha Underground but if you leave that sphere, their audiences are tiny This. Lucha Underground is hilarious and stupid and great, but it draws... about 200k eyeballs per episode. Overestimating the Internet audience is what lead Universal to think that a Scott Pilgrim movie would draw big box office numbers, of which it did not. There's also a component where the barrier to entry for wrestling promotions to gain viewers has been lowered exponentially in the recent years, so much so that those hardcore wrestling fanatics have the ability (and seem to be willing) to spread their money and time across multiple promotions now, more than ever. They're vocal and willing to spend, but they make up a small percentage of the WWE audience.
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Jun 3, 2016 20:30
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How dare you insult Scott Pilgrim, Movie That Did Well On DVD
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Jun 3, 2016 22:53
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checksin posted:How dare you insult Scott Pilgrim, Movie That Did Well On DVD Scott Pilgrim and Hellboy are cofounders of the League of Superheroes that Eventually Made Their Money Back
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Jun 4, 2016 00:44
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Seems to me that most of the kids that watch wrestling are the children of wrestling fans. One of my favorite parts about the last house show I went to was a guy telling his quiet son he wouldn't get in trouble for yelling like he does at home at the wrestlers on tv. After that it was all booing heels and cheering faces.
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Jun 4, 2016 14:50
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So they're doing a Fantasy Draft now and letting people share it: http://fantasy-draft.wwe.com/?sf30477905=1#/ Here's mine. Note that I put everyone I like on Smackdown for a super awesome roster, and put people I'm either bored with or don't care about on Raw so I could skip it every week: http://fantasy-draft.wwe.com/?sf30477905=1#/shared/287e22b4dd02cd1bac658bcd58286f33
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Jul 7, 2016 20:46
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sticklefifer posted:So they're doing a Fantasy Draft now and letting people share it: Oh good, they're drafting Brock and Taker? Let the part timers do whatever and not waste thought on them.
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Jul 7, 2016 20:54
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sticklefifer posted:So they're doing a Fantasy Draft now and letting people share it: You broke up Lana and Rusev. You monster.
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Jul 7, 2016 21:02
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Dr. Baker posted:You broke up Lana and Rusev. You monster. Real life be damned, I want him to be back with My Hot Summer and offer her wonderful gifts of fish.
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Jul 7, 2016 21:46
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I love watching the TNA wrestling commercials because it is all debt relief, medical equipment you can get through medicare, and then poo poo like paper plates
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Jul 7, 2016 21:51
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https://youtu.be/v0DkodsowtQ lol at discussing low rent ads and not leading with this
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Jul 7, 2016 22:15
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Here's my brand split. http://fantasy-draft.wwe.com/?sf30477905=1#/shared/240f04b915be35c5b49ea188b1cbc901 Think it looks real good to be honest.
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Jul 7, 2016 22:48
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Heh. Ryback's still on the roster
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Jul 7, 2016 22:53
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http://fantasy-draft.wwe.com/?sf30477905=1#/shared/09ec1d0661b2bb742be550cf44f47d39 I didn't really put much effort into this, especially towards the end, but here's something.
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Jul 8, 2016 00:56
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They should add a "Future Endeavors" category so I can put Dolph Ziggler there
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Jul 8, 2016 01:02
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http://fantasy-draft.wwe.com/?sf30477905=1#/shared/770aeca425cd6e2d9dbbacb141b5f3f9
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Jul 8, 2016 01:05
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BROCK LESBIAN posted:Here's my brand split. There's a perverse part of me that would be intrigued by a 2 hour Corbin/Ziggler match.
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Jul 8, 2016 01:16
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http://fantasy-draft.wwe.com/?sf30477905=1#/shared/4aebf478d5ce2ac3f71c75fddfe76428 The only correct roster
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Jul 8, 2016 01:18
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http://fantasy-draft.wwe.com/?sf30477905=1#/shared/ad4ddcb02d8de57be91b0353b90dc178 Each brand has 3 belts (assuming they create a new world title) and all the wrestlers I care about are on the brand with Ryan Ward booking, it's perfect. I put both the part-timers and Ryback on Raw so that the active wrestlers are even between brands.
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Jul 8, 2016 05:49
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Vince's dream roster: http://fantasy-draft.wwe.com/?sf30477905=1#/shared/45f2e0db134d22bba173c387b389f6f4
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Jul 8, 2016 06:14
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found a neat way to do this draft: act like you want both shows to be as best as they can be, pretending viewers will only watch one or the other. To eliminate bias, i separated the rosters (women's division excluded, because with raw being 3 hours its the best brand to accommodate that division regardless so they default there) into two lists, and made a third party pick one. http://fantasy-draft.wwe.com/?sf30477905=1#/shared/7618f73516eef04d097d8f4f612018bb i feel this is decently balances so both shows are okay, plus they'll be getting some NXT support.
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Jul 8, 2016 06:33
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This fantasy draft is set up weird. Why does each guy come up one at a time and I have to assign them instead of showing me the whole pool and letting me pick one at a time? I wanted to do a draft with my friend each of us GMing one show while I kill time a work, and this set up makes it awkward as heck. :/
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Jul 8, 2016 06:42
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Only star power deserves to be on Raw, and I mean real stars, none of these losers that some geeks like on social media! Only stars and potential future stars on Raw, Smackdown gets all the indie geeks nobody cares about. http://fantasy-draft.wwe.com/?sf30477905=1#/shared/2ea848a8ca22c42213752b6ea0de2a62
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Jul 8, 2016 11:35
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http://fantasy-draft.wwe.com/?sf30477905=1#/shared/87136456685924c87e4789bd5170cba0 yeah whatever, brock to SD to complete the circle HerraS fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Jul 9, 2016 |
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Jul 9, 2016 15:51
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ThePariah posted:Only star power deserves to be on Raw, and I mean real stars, none of these losers that some geeks like on social media! Only stars and potential future stars on Raw, Smackdown gets all the indie geeks nobody cares about. Would watch that Raw over Smackdown. Now Draft Corbin and Rusev to Smackdown and then we'll talk.
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Jul 9, 2016 17:45
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Make Raw Great Again http://fantasy-draft.wwe.com/?sf30477905=1#/shared/86110603f3a4e1ad893764e37b4117e1
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C. Everett Koop posted:Make Raw Great Again Bellas belong on the right!
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