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Twerkteam Pizza posted:I almost took this bait Thanks for not seizing my means of procurement. It's hard being a fisherman in these trying times.
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ThaumPenguin posted:Thanks for not seizing my means of procurement. As a worker your means should rightfully be your own
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Reveilled posted:Communism looked a lot more attractive to me once I found myself working a job where my average weekly revenue generation for the company was larger than my annual wage. Yeah, this is pretty widespread and bad
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I remember once drawing a distinction between feminists and feminazis in class freshman year college. Also had bad opinions concerning affirmative action and the death penalty. To top it off I used to argue that white privileged wasn't a thing because I was white and my family was quite poor. I'm still poor but at least I recognized how stupid I was. Probably for the best that I didn't go through with that engineering degree.
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Kit Walker posted:I remember once drawing a distinction between feminists and feminazis in class freshman year college. Also had bad opinions concerning affirmative action and the death penalty. To top it off I used to argue that white privileged wasn't a thing because I was white and my family was quite poor. I'm still poor but at least I recognized how stupid I was. Probably for the best that I didn't go through with that engineering degree. Lol many engineers think like that most their lives, and that's usually the better ones
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Aug 7, 2016 01:58
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Bast Relief posted:I used to think similarly when I was a kid, but now I think making birth control free if not at least cheap would do so many good things aside from preventing kids being born in a crappy situation. IUDs are great, long term, and don't require remembering to take one. After having one I felt like everyone should have this option, but drat they are expensive and not covered. yeah we should totally cover IUD installation and maintenance free of charge for anyone who asks
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Aug 7, 2016 03:14
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Once upon a time I was one of those "equal opportunity, not equal outcome" sorts, except I thought that equal education spending and no explicit discrimination was all it took to have equal opportunity. If I'd talked politics with anyone ever, I'd have been completely insufferable. I'd like to think I grew out of it.
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Aug 7, 2016 07:08
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When I was a teenager, I read books by Rush Limbaugh, and realized that Trickle-Down Economics just make sense.
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Aug 11, 2016 22:11
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Lord_Pigeonbane posted:When I was a teenager, I read books by Rush Limbaugh, and realized that Trickle-Down Economics just make sense. So, if you can still access that part of your brain, out of curiosity, what just made sense about it? What makes Mr. Limbaugh persuasive?
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Aug 12, 2016 02:25
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Octatonic posted:So, if you can still access that part of your brain, out of curiosity, what just made sense about it? What makes Mr. Limbaugh persuasive? it's those curves
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Aug 12, 2016 03:39
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I was in high school just as all those 2004-ish "ban the gays" state-level amendments were being floated, and some of my classmates who I respected were openly gay, so I reasoned that if the government was being used to oppress people, then the government's powers should be reduced, and therefore Libertarianism was a good ideology to follow.
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Aug 12, 2016 04:01
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I posted in LF.
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Aug 12, 2016 04:05
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Octatonic posted:So, if you can still access that part of your brain, out of curiosity, what just made sense about it? What makes Mr. Limbaugh persuasive? Eh, I can understand why someone might believe it. I mean, it *is* true that (some) money you give to the rich trickles down to the non-rich; it's just that it's dumb as hell to do that when you can just give the money directly to the non-rich. There's also the idea that giving business owners money will cause them to hire more people, which sounds sorta intuitive if you don't think too hard about it (and realize that hiring is primarily driven by demand). So I can understand why someone might agree with supply-side economics if they were young and had just never been introduced to the better alternative of "give stimulus to the non-rich instead."
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Aug 12, 2016 06:47
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Ytlaya posted:Eh, I can understand why someone might believe it. I mean, it *is* true that (some) money you give to the rich trickles down to the non-rich; Not really. The rich already have tons of money they don't use for anything. Giving them more has absolutely no positive impact. This is doubly true when the giving is done by taking the money out of things that are already doing something useful, I.E. cutting taxes.
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Aug 12, 2016 07:38
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doverhog posted:Not really. The rich already have tons of money they don't use for anything. Giving them more has absolutely no positive impact. This is doubly true when the giving is done by taking the money out of things that are already doing something useful, I.E. cutting taxes. I think you missed the "(some)" in my post. It is, in fact, true that a non-zero amount of money you give to the rich ends up "trickling down" to the non-rich; it's just extremely inefficient.
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Aug 12, 2016 07:55
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I'm not gonna argue that statistically it's not above zero, but it might as well be.
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Aug 12, 2016 08:00
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Ofaloaf posted:I was in high school just as all those 2004-ish "ban the gays" state-level amendments were being floated, and some of my classmates who I respected were openly gay, so I reasoned that if the government was being used to oppress people, then the government's powers should be reduced, and therefore Libertarianism was a good ideology to follow. You were right, you just latched onto the wrong libertarianism. 
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Octatonic posted:So, if you can still access that part of your brain, out of curiosity, what just made sense about it? What makes Mr. Limbaugh persuasive? I had a child's grasp of economics, and was willing to accept whatever information was presented to me in a reasonably persuasive manner. I don't remember Limbaugh being a terrible author (assuming he wrote his own books), so the books were good enough to convince me. Also, I hadn't given up on earn some approval from my parents, so my beliefs tended to skew toward agreeing with them.
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