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A lovely season deserves a lovely winner. Congrats to Nicole for being the dingle berry on top of a turd sundae.
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obliriovrons posted:So for people who were watching the feeds and stuff, does this stem from, like, the way he was acting towards other people that we didn't really see all that much of on the TV edit? Because otherwise I don't really understand this result This result is utter garbage, but it's probably because of what Pillowpants said. An "I'm sorry. I get passionate and emotional sometimes and cross the line. I said things this summer that I shouldn't have. This game has taught me that I need to learn to be more patient with people." would have probably won him the game. I'm so confused by Paulie's vote and don't get why Da' seemed so pleased Paul wasn't evicted and happy with his speech and then voted Nicole.
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mancalamania posted:Also, did anyone get the sense that there was some fight backstage involving Michelle right before the show? She seemed visibly annoyed for the entire live portion of the show and even seemed snarky at Julie at one point when she was reading her question. That was probably right after the producers told them to give it to Nicole, given how much she seemed to hate Nicole
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Natalie had at one point banned James from working with Nicole and Corey so losing Natalie's vote was pretty bad
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Yeah, I'm not entirely understanding how/why some of the votes turned out like they did. James for Paul? What? Paul was obnoxious from Day 1, so to some extent I guess that finally bit him in the rear end. He hustled week in and out, so props there, but that personality, whew. If they ever do the long expected all stars season, he is almost certainly going to be a producer pick. He lives in the area, has a huge personality and has viewer recognition. Would love to see the alternate universe version of this season where Corey went home instead of Glen. The toxicity would still surely be there as the season went on, but it would certainly have turned some alliances upside down immediately.
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I was surprised by Da the most. You knew Corey was voting for Nicole. Paulie is the most bitter human alive so he was voting for Nicole. zakiyah is a useless human being who was going to do whatever paulie did. Natalie wasn't going to be able to get past the name calling. I though Da would respect the game more though.
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On the After Show with Jeff, Julie said in Over the Top there are 12 new Houseguests + 1 Returning Houseguest. Unsure if Jason/Josea is part of the 12 or if there are 13 total. All the weekly/live shows will start at 7 PM Pacific. Saturday and Sundays will have a new "Safety Ceremony", and if your name is not called by the end of the day on Sunday, you're nominated for eviction. Finally the viewers vote for the eventual season winner. Going back to BB roots it seems. Safety ceremony sounds like it could be a viewer vote? Or maybe a combination viewer/comp result? i.e. I won this secret small challenge thing, so the viewer vote doesn't matter? Teek fucked around with this message at 06:12 on Sep 22, 2016 |
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Fast Luck posted:Previous jury segments showed Day having respect for Nicole's game and I thought she'd be a Nicole voter up until she started cheering on Paul in the finale so yeah that one was weird. Paulie's vote makes sense to me. Nicole and Corey were the ones who didn't turn on him and he is in love with Corey. Yeah, Da' was a toss up in my mind, too, until I saw some of the things she said during the finale. I didn't think Paulie blamed Paul for his eviction and would vote for someone who was his boy over a woman. I didn't think about him wanting to support Corey by voting for Nicole. Jeff is interviewing everyone right now, and the jury members are saying the speeches/questions didn't change any votes. They're also saying Paul would have definitely won over James.  Teek posted:On the After Show with Jeff, Julie said in Over the Top there are 12 new Houseguests + 1 Returning Houseguest. Unsure if Jason/Josea is part of the 12 or if there are 13 total. I'm pretty sure Jason/Josea is the one returner. I hope the thing about America voting for a winner just means we get a jury vote instead of the only vote. violetdragon fucked around with this message at 06:16 on Sep 22, 2016 |
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From everything Julie said, it really sounds like they're almost completely doing original Big Brother. Hopefully strategy will still play some part in the show. So viewers will save everyone except for two people, and the Houseguests then vote to evict from among those two? Getting some Glass House vibes... Here's some more collected info via Hamsterwatch: Dingo posted:In addition, we now know viewers will determine the winner, but they aren't going full international style: there will be a weekly HOH who will determine which hamsters are safe each week.. I don't yet know if the hamsters will evict themselves or if that'll be viewer votes Teek fucked around with this message at 06:37 on Sep 22, 2016 |
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Teek posted:On the After Show with Jeff, Julie said in Over the Top there are 12 new Houseguests + 1 Returning Houseguest. Unsure if Jason/Josea is part of the 12 or if there are 13 total. I was led to believe it is someone from Season 12. Interesting. Jason will be better live feeds overall. STING 64 fucked around with this message at 06:50 on Sep 22, 2016 |
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Sep 22, 2016 06:47
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The Fruit-Loop Dingus won 'eh? Faaaart. Um, okay... that's more on YER BOY PAUL! making a -$450,000 mistake. Nicole had girl power in the jury and he should have seen that. Bad jury management and calling a woman "oval office" never helps matters. This season wasn't great but wasn't the worst either. Just sorta middling. I liked the cast but not so much their gameplay. Hopefully, some future hamster uprights the apple cart and goes against the will of the house for a change because gently caress, that needs to happen. OFTEN! Oh, and for OTT vote Jason in... Joeza will have learned nothing. Jason at least is a superfan that can take on board his past transgressions and he was snarky and funny. And he's a smoker and this last season has zero smokers so we need that because I work for BIG TOBACCO!
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oh no paul lost now his mom will never get a bentley maybe he can afford to help his sister emigrate from pleasantville instead
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#BB18 was trending as the number 1 hashtag on Twitter for a few hours with this description: Then, #paulwasrobbed trended at 13 briefly. Very few people are happy with how BB18 ended, but there is a lot of passion. On that note, which old season of Big Brother should I watch to forget about BB18? I haven't seen 4-11, so one of those is preferred.
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Sep 22, 2016 11:55
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I don't see how Paul was robbed. He robbed himself by taking Nicole instead of James.
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I just think it's pretty funny that "Paul was robbed" some how got into the tag explanation, and that people got it to trend on it's own, too. I think Paul definitely put more work and skill into Big Brother than Nicole did. Winners that lay low all summer and then win a couple comps at the end are boring, unless they are puppet mastering others to do their dirty work. Nicole showed no real evidence of doing this in her DRs. The only time I can think of is when she successfully got Natalie and Michelle to put up Paul and Victor. If she can't even put into words what her plans are or give more than one example of when she manipulated something to go her way, how are we supposed to see her as a good player? Maybe CBS has made the DR sessions too scripted or something, but I'd respect her game a lot more if her DRs all season had been like "I'm ratting out the Fatal5, because I think the guys can get me farther and I'm sweet talking Corey into convincing the guys that [person who is after me] is a threat to them." As it was, it looked like she got obsessed with Corey and hid behind him most of the summer while Paulie dictated what that guys alliance did until he was evicted. There's a new clip about BBOTT on All Access. It is confirmed that there is no jury and America chooses the winner. Looking forward to a season full of James style pandering. My excitement for this new season just dropped.
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violetdragon posted:#BB18 was trending as the number 1 hashtag on Twitter for a few hours with this description: The producers are happy, I can tell you. Their social media posts weren't this enthusiastic about that nerd who pissed his pants every time he had to play the game last season.
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As soon as DaVonne said she didn't want Paul to finish 3rd I figured it was because she didn't want to have to choose between James and Nicole.
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Sep 22, 2016 13:12
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Yep, just as I thought, I'll only be watching Survivor from here on out
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New thread for Over the Top here: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3791474
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How was James the better choice? Paulie, Z, Michelle, Nicole, Natalie, and Corey would have all voted for him almost for sure. Paul took Nicole because he figured the house would be split 5-4 and he was completely correct.
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I don't know that James gets Paulie, Z, Nicole, or Corey.
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Nicole and Corey have been gushing over James for weeks, why would they vote for Paul? Paulie and Z could also easily vote for James out of spite, it isn't out of the question, but that I could concede. James would definitely have Michelle and Natalie, so with Nicole and Corey locked, he'd need just one other person to vote for him worst case. So either way, it isn't like James was an easy win. Paul had a tough jury no matter what.
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Even if Nicole and Corey would have voted for Paul over James, it's tough for Paul to count on that. Agree that it was going to be close no matter what.
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ToastyPotato posted:How was James the better choice? Paulie, Z, Michelle, Nicole, Natalie, and Corey would have all voted for him almost for sure. Paul took Nicole because he figured the house would be split 5-4 and he was completely correct. After the show, several jury members said Paul would have handily won against James, obviously Paul had no way of knowing that, though. Why would Paulie and Z vote for James out of spite? Paulie blamed James for Z's eviction and felt the most betrayed by him. Nicole had said previously that she'd vote for Paul in a Paul/James finale, but who knows if she'd still do that moments after Paul evicted her. I think she probably would have, though. Corey may or may not have followed her lead. It really was a toss up, either way. It came down to Paul not wanting to give James 50k (and especially not 500k) for throwing competitions and "doing what the house wants" all summer. He claimed that he preferred to get 50k next to Nicole than 500k next to James. I hope that was true. :/ violetdragon fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Sep 22, 2016 |
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Whether there are more diverse age groups or not, I am hoping for better casting in the future. http://www.revelist.com/tv/big-brother-women-problem/4288 (And I don't think the season's winner changes anything about this article's points about women in Big Brother.) I don't know what to say about Paul other than OHHHHHHHHH!
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violetdragon posted:After the show, several jury members said Paul would have handily won against James, obviously Paul had no way of knowing that, though. I do think it's likely that Paul had some idea like, "Nicole deserves to go to the end more than James". Which is the sort of reasoning which causes you to lose, which is why he lost.
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My main objective with the season was that it was just way too ableist. Literally not a single houseguest was confined to a wheelchair. I had to check my calendar to see if it was still 2016 and I hadn't fallen into a time warp back to 1954.
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Paul didn't get robbed at all. I was a big fan of the way he played the game through the first 2/3rds as he did a great job playing to people and working his way out of trouble, but he just stopped doing that after the Paulie dethroning and got cocky and stupid. He went out of his way to antagonize people and start fights. When Nicole betrayed Natalie and nominated her Nat hated Nicole and apologized to Paul for turning on him and was pulling hard for him. Paul assumed she was lying and went out of his way to antagonize her and poo poo on her in her final week for no reason other than simple spite. In the end that may very well be the reason he lost the game and that's a deserving loss. Nicole isn't a great winner. She didn't strategize or control anything. But she played, won stuff, and weaseled her way out of fixes. She's an Andy winner. I don't enjoy it and I don't especially respect her if she can't own it, but in the end it worked and beat out Paul's ultimate "I'll be an rear end in a top hat and you better vote for me anyway" strategy, so there you go. And hey, a woman beat a man in the finals so maybe that false theory is dead. Full disclosure, I haven't watched the finale because I just don't like these people and didn't care who won. So if I'm missing something, I'm sorry and admit I'm kind of ignorant here. I just looked it up this morning for some closure and to see if OTT appealed to me (it doesn't).
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Michelle is doing a Reddit AMA later tonight, in case anyone missed watching her meltdown in real time. http://twitter.com/BBReddit/status/780807822913134592
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