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Iron Prince
Aug 28, 2005
Buglord
But that is 34?? :confused:


Or maybe.... Trap sprung....

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VectorSigma
Jan 20, 2004

Transform
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Freak Out



Iron Prince posted:

But that is 34?? :confused:


Or maybe.... Trap sprung....

oops typo. now we need a constitutional convention supermajority to fix it.

hot cocoa on the couch
Dec 8, 2009

Does it bother you that there is an honest and self-aware judge in a high post in the United States judiciary op?

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



TEAH SYAG posted:

Well, the liberal piece of poo poo swore an oath to uphold it, and since he's made it public that he fundamentally doesn't believe in it, he can go clear his desk and gently caress off. Impeach this cocksucker.

He's a republican.

gingrich
May 26, 2007

i'm the osiris of this shit
(((richard posner))) - "oy vey this constitution is terrible. and such small portions!"

Sophy Wackles
Dec 17, 2000

> access main security grid
access: PERMISSION DENIED.





Hey, I have a good idea. Let's forget the old Constitution and Bill of Rights and just have our politicians create a brand new one!

Tuxedo Gin
May 21, 2003

Classy.

Pawn 17 posted:

Hey, I have a good idea. Let's forget the old Constitution and Bill of Rights and just have our politicians create a brand new one!

no we need to eat them

whoever eats one gets their job

Acid Haze
Feb 16, 2009

:parrot:
The bible was put together from a bunch of random stories, written by people who never actually lived during the time when Jesus may have lived, which were then edited for and spliced together by wealthy politicians hoping to further their power by spreading a unified holy text for the many different early-Christian denominations.

Yet people read it today and think it has value other than as a book of tall tales and hymns. I'm sure if our judge were told that, by his own logic, the bible is not a valid text in the modern day... he might babble about something and dodge your question, leaving you empty and losing faith in mankind.

Bob James
Nov 15, 2005

by Lowtax
Ultra Carp

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

gingrich posted:

(((richard posner))) - "oy vey this constitution is terrible. and such small portions!"

Dr Cheeto
Mar 2, 2013
Wretched Harp

Android Bicyclist posted:

Our Founding Fathers had lovely crystal balls. How come Nostradamus could predict a ton of poo poo but Ben Franklin couldn't figure out Snapchat?

I guarantee you if you handed Franklin a smartphone he'd be sending all the French ladies dick pics within the hour.

Hector Beerlioz
Jun 16, 2010

aw, hec
Well, that's the opposite view Scalia had so it must be correct

8-Bit Scholar
Jan 23, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
See the Constitution though was written with a process for amendments and alterations that would allow new generations with new problems to establish new civil rights for their ages.

The issue with the Bill of Rights could certainly be said that it comes from an aged era, but the thing is, this literally is only something you apply to the second amendment. Nobody ever says the first amendment or fourth are somehow quaint and outdated, for one.

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth
Idiots don't like the first amendment either cause their feelings get hurt and that shouldn't be allowed.

8-Bit Scholar
Jan 23, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Powercrazy posted:

Idiots don't like the first amendment either cause their feelings get hurt and that shouldn't be allowed.

Those people are retarded though, so gently caress 'em in their cunts.

KomodoWagon
May 10, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Hector Beerlioz posted:

Well, that's the opposite view Scalia had so it must be correct

Lol Scalia picked and chose policies with no regard to actual constitutional legislature, but this guy does deserve some credit for just tossing the whole thing out and being done with it.

Dr Cheeto
Mar 2, 2013
Wretched Harp

8-Bit Scholar posted:

The issue with the Bill of Rights could certainly be said that it comes from an aged era, but the thing is, this literally is only something you apply to the second amendment. Nobody ever says the first amendment or fourth are somehow quaint and outdated, for one.

I mean, the nature of national defense and firearms is unrecognizable from what it was in the eighteenth century, but free discourse and ensuring that citizens are protected from abuse by law enforcement remain extremely important to a functioning democracy even if the ways we conduct those things have changed.

Hector Beerlioz
Jun 16, 2010

aw, hec

KomodoWagon posted:

Lol Scalia picked and chose policies with no regard to actual constitutional legislature, but this guy does deserve some credit for just tossing the whole thing out and being done with it.

I thought he was a big on strictly adhering to the Constitution, but I will admit all my info on him comes from the obituaries

CharlestonJew
Jul 7, 2011

Illegal Hen
I've read the constitution ten-thousand times so you know I'm smart

Dr. Fraiser Chain
May 18, 2004

Redlining my shit posting machine


Hector Beerlioz posted:

I thought he was a big on strictly adhering to the Constitution, but I will admit all my info on him comes from the obituaries

He totally said those things, and created an air of believing those things, but like all Republicans once the door closes it's all cocaine and penises

Hector Beerlioz
Jun 16, 2010

aw, hec
How do i get invited to the cocain and penis parties

fabergay egg
Mar 1, 2012

it's not a rhetorical question, for politely saying 'you are an idiot, you don't know what you are talking about'


8-Bit Scholar posted:

See the Constitution though was written with a process for amendments and alterations that would allow new generations with new problems to establish new civil rights for their ages.

The issue with the Bill of Rights could certainly be said that it comes from an aged era, but the thing is, this literally is only something you apply to the second amendment. Nobody ever says the first amendment or fourth are somehow quaint and outdated, for one.

Actually I'm pretty sure that the last sixteen years have established the precedent that the fourth amendment is a bunch of bullshit that law enforcement and intelligence agencies need not even pay the slightest attention to.

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

We

Hector Beerlioz posted:

How do i get invited to the cocain and penis parties

job in banking

Dr. Stab
Sep 12, 2010
👨🏻‍⚕️🩺🔪🙀😱🙀
Op, I didn't know; was short for ,

pop fly to McGillicutty
Feb 2, 2004

A peckish little mouse!

Android Bicyclist posted:

Seventh Circuit Judge Richard Posner thinks the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and post-Civil War amendments aren't really worth studying.


Posner's Full Op-Ed here.


TL;DR (Too Long, Don't Read) the basic laws of America. They were created by old dudes and they don't apply to life now. :911:

Me smarter than old dead guy. Me say you no have rights.

gently caress this dead gay country

John Denver Hoxha
May 31, 2014

What a persistent nightmare!
....but enough about my posts
Sounds like this posner guy is just mad he can't write you a constitutional amendment to make you fall in love

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

Hector Beerlioz posted:

I thought he was a big on strictly adhering to the Constitution, but I will admit all my info on him comes from the obituaries

Basically all of Scalia's "strict interpretation" shtick came down to believing he had a direct pipeline to the ghosts of the founding fathers.

Dogbrisket
Jun 10, 2009

gingrich posted:

(((richard posner))) - "oy vey this constitution is terrible. and such small portions!"

This nigga knows what's up

new friend from school
May 19, 2008

by Azathoth
Posner's just mad that Scalia (PBUH) died having peaked way loving higher than he could ever hope to, in every way possible.

a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010

tldr

phasmid
Jan 16, 2015

Booty Shaker
SILENT MAJORITY
I'm sure this is just a coincidence considering that in the last week SCOTUS told three states to knock off their anti-abortion crap.

Gamer With Dignity
May 15, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Vince MechMahon posted:

He's a republican.

Anyone who disagrees with me is a liberal.

Saga
Aug 17, 2009

redm posted:

Look guys, I know my job is to read law but gently caress you allright, the constitution? Really? Like what even is it? peep my twitter and facebook to watch me get more and more gradually bored with reading #judgelifeintheinternetpornfactory

Posner's not saying we don't pay attention to the constitution. He's criticising excessively academic approaches to decision making, and in particular the "original intent" approach to constitutional questions, which says we need to look back to the 18th century dudes and how the constitution was applied back then to know what is constitutionally permissible.

As an example of what he's talking about, in Bowels v. Harddick, in 1986 the court decided the state of Georgia could arrest your for butt loving your BF in the privacy of your own home because there was no historical, constitutionally protected right to homosexual sodomy [sic]. But since by 2003 it was more or less OK to be gay, at least on TV, the court explicitly reversed that view in Lawrence v. Texas. In retrospect, the issue in Bowels was that the judges thought gay sex was gross and in Lawrence that they thought it was mostly OK. The 18th century version of the bill of rights had not changed in the mean time.

Posner is just saying that the majority of supreme court justices in Bowels were wasting their time and ours by pretending otherwise. Just like all those law professors who have never actually practised law waste their time and their students' time with awful loving law review articles that no-one who is not a miserable autist actually reads.

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend
If the laws are outdated maybe the laws should be changed democratically rather than leaving it up to judges to just pull readings out of their rear end that are directly contrary to the law of the land.

rakovsky maybe
Nov 4, 2008

Dr Cheeto posted:

I mean, the nature of national defense and firearms is unrecognizable from what it was in the eighteenth century, but free discourse and ensuring that citizens are protected from abuse by law enforcement remain extremely important to a functioning democracy even if the ways we conduct those things have changed.

If only the constitution included some way to add to or modify existing amendments...

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Gamer With Dignity
May 15, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
There will be a breaking of the ancient Western code.

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