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AweStriker
Oct 6, 2014

Ephraim225 posted:

They'll never finish it if they do. I've seen them play.

They already are and this seems about right.

There's an update on the last page.

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Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...




Ha, that UFO power does look pretty great (not to mention cute). I haven't really played NES Kirby but the enemy does look pretty familiar - maybe it showed up sans power-up in Block Ball or something.

Ephraim225
Oct 28, 2010
On the last page it was mentioned that it shows up in at least one other game I didn't know about. Kinda wish it'd show up again though.

Special Tee Shot - Extra Course 3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMEardVfYwQ

Ephraim225
Oct 28, 2010
Caution: Amazing shots ahead.

Kirby's Dream Course - Course 8 + DeDeDe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZSjwgLp4AQ

Manic_Misanthrope
Jul 1, 2010


Good lord that course is just merciless. Especially that hole 5.

Ephraim225
Oct 28, 2010

Manic_Misanthrope posted:

Good lord that course is just merciless. Especially that hole 5.

Extra Course 8 is even worse. I had to run it many times to get a Gold Medal, and the successful run that you'll see comes down to the wire. But I'm getting ahead of myself.

Special Tee Shot - Extra 4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5a-Vwmfcis

That leaves one more Special Tee Shot video and the Extra courses in Kirby's Dream Course, so now I just need someone to do the multiplayer with if I'm going to show that off.

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



Ephraim225 posted:

Caution: Amazing shots ahead.

Kirby's Dream Course - Course 8 + DeDeDe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZSjwgLp4AQ

Man, what a disappointing boss fight, it just seems kinda short and awkwardly shoehorned in. At least the last few levels running up to it looked pretty great. Does the eighth hole actually require much skill or is it just a showy way to end the course?

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

Captain Hygiene posted:

Man, what a disappointing boss fight, it just seems kinda short and awkwardly shoehorned in. At least the last few levels running up to it looked pretty great. Does the eighth hole actually require much skill or is it just a showy way to end the course?

When I first got to this point of this game I had no idea that Dedede requires chip shots. I just kept putting against him and it seemed to have some effect but he wouldn't die, so I just thought he had a huge amount of HP. Took me a while before I figured it out, but once you do it isn't that hard.

I dont know
Aug 9, 2003

That Guy here...

Captain Hygiene posted:

Man, what a disappointing boss fight, it just seems kinda short and awkwardly shoehorned in. At least the last few levels running up to it looked pretty great. Does the eighth hole actually require much skill or is it just a showy way to end the course?

The idea of a bossfight at the end of a minigolf game is neat, and the Dedede bot looks cool. However, it also is a illustrates why a minigolf boss fight doesn't work at all.

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



Exactly - I haven't played through the game yet on VC, but the boss fight just looks aggravating if you haven't figured it out and boringly trivial once you know what to do. Oh well, at least the rest of the game is neat.

Ephraim225
Oct 28, 2010

Captain Hygiene posted:

Man, what a disappointing boss fight, it just seems kinda short and awkwardly shoehorned in. At least the last few levels running up to it looked pretty great. Does the eighth hole actually require much skill or is it just a showy way to end the course?

Some thought is required to work out how the final hole plays out. After that it's a matter of timing certain button presses - you don't need to move the Tornado or UFO, or even hit A, so it's not a big skill requirement.

Captain Hygiene posted:

Exactly - I haven't played through the game yet on VC, but the boss fight just looks aggravating if you haven't figured it out and boringly trivial once you know what to do. Oh well, at least the rest of the game is neat.

The good news is you technically never need to bother with it - the game never saves after completing it (to my knowledge, that is. You unlock Extra Mode when you get the final gold medal, not when you beat Dedede.)

Ephraim225
Oct 28, 2010
Special Tee Shot - Gold Course

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnQ7IJJyhWo

I say in the video that your score on this course does not matter but I'm not 100% on that. The final screen actually flashes if you wait long enough but I don't know if that's due to my score? I can test it later I guess.

Glad to be done with that game though. The final holes were a little annoying to work with.

Ephraim225
Oct 28, 2010
Aaah, I hate being distracted by other stuff. But, it's time for Extra mode!

Kirby's Dream Course - Extra Course 1 and 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJxTGydog0s

bbcisdabomb
Jan 15, 2008

SHEESH
I'm glad I never made it to the Extra courses in my childhood, I had enough problems with the main game. Course 1 looked easy enough, not that you could really make those layouts challenging, but even course 2 looked like it would have stumped me.

Ephraim225
Oct 28, 2010
Kirby's Dream Course - Extra Course 3 and 4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OPI8tC9_-E

bbcisdabomb
Jan 15, 2008

SHEESH
There we go, that's the Kirby's Dream Course I remember. Making crazy shots and missing by thiiiiiiis much.

Ephraim225
Oct 28, 2010

bbcisdabomb posted:

There we go, that's the Kirby's Dream Course I remember. Making crazy shots and missing by thiiiiiiis much.

I'll never get tired of it. It just...it keeps happening.

Kirby's Dream Course - Extra Course 5 and 6

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6bKHtVVU3Q

Ryushikaze
Mar 5, 2013

Ephraim225 posted:

I'll never get tired of it. It just...it keeps happening.

Kirby's Dream Course - Extra Course 5 and 6

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6bKHtVVU3Q

Don't feel bad about Juuuuuust missing. Even the TAS has to resort to absolutely ludicrous methods to get holes in one, and even it can't get them on every hole.

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

Doesn't Dedede move slightly faster in extra mode?

Ephraim225
Oct 28, 2010

Carbon dioxide posted:

Doesn't Dedede move slightly faster in extra mode?

I tested this by entering both battles and timing how long it takes him to get to the green line: about 22 seconds in both battles. So unless he gets faster at low health in Extra mode, there's no difference between the two modes here.

HomestarCanter
Oct 21, 2008

Strong Bad,
you're a horse's twees.
Would you consider making a commentary video for the TAS of this game, once you've covered everything else you plan to do? Either going into minute detail about the strategy, or just saying "holy poo poo" every thirty seconds, I'm not picky.

Ephraim225
Oct 28, 2010

HomestarCanter posted:

Would you consider making a commentary video for the TAS of this game, once you've covered everything else you plan to do? Either going into minute detail about the strategy, or just saying "holy poo poo" every thirty seconds, I'm not picky.

That sounds like a good idea. The TAS would be great for showing hole-in-ones I missed.

Kirby's Dream Course - Extra Course 7 and 8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8qDXFDCIlc

Ephraim225
Oct 28, 2010
Kirby's Dream Course TAS Blind Commentary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soR8mZlb4Pk

Take note that the TAS is over an hour. If you're only interested in the highlights, see Course 3, Course 6, and Course 8. Overall a really great TAS and you should totally watch it with or without commentary. (The Extra Courses really feel like they're phoned in when you watch the TAS and see many of the same tricks out there for the second round.)

The original TAS is found here: http://tasvideos.org/Game/snes-kirbys-dream-course.html I used SNES9X 1.51 to view it, I ran into desync with 1.54.

And that will definitely conclude the Kirby's Dream Course/Special Tee Shot LP! Thanks to everyone who stuck around for it!

HomestarCanter
Oct 21, 2008

Strong Bad,
you're a horse's twees.

"Ephraim225" From the reaction video posted:

Oh, this was so worth it! Whoever suggested this, you are a genius!

You're welcome.

I'm still watching your reactions, but so far I am not disappointed. Perhaps you could consider commentating TASes for other games you might LP.

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

Ephraim225 posted:

Kirby's Dream Course TAS Blind Commentary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soR8mZlb4Pk

Take note that the TAS is over an hour. If you're only interested in the highlights, see Course 3, Course 6, and Course 8. Overall a really great TAS and you should totally watch it with or without commentary. (The Extra Courses really feel like they're phoned in when you watch the TAS and see many of the same tricks out there for the second round.)

The original TAS is found here: http://tasvideos.org/Game/snes-kirbys-dream-course.html I used SNES9X 1.51 to view it, I ran into desync with 1.54.

And that will definitely conclude the Kirby's Dream Course/Special Tee Shot LP! Thanks to everyone who stuck around for it!

Thank you for the cool LP of two interesting games.

Also, according to the TAS author comments: "In extra mode, Kirby deals half as much damage to Dedede".

You know what that means? It proves I'm NOT CRAZY! There IS a difference!

Ephraim225
Oct 28, 2010

Carbon dioxide posted:

Also, according to the TAS author comments: "In extra mode, Kirby deals half as much damage to Dedede".

You know what that means? It proves I'm NOT CRAZY! There IS a difference!

No, see, what you said was:

Carbon dioxide posted:

Doesn't Dedede move slightly faster in extra mode?

"Faster". Nothing about damage :)

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

I know I know but it seems people (also outside this thread) were thinking the fights were exactly the same and I thought they weren't.

SkyTalon2314
Aug 8, 2013

Also, according to the TASers notes: Yes. Soft-resetting during water bounces 'saves' the amount of bouncing in memory, which is how he did that trick after going into the Demo mode.

This type of thing definitely isn't unheard of in old games of the era, and there's plenty of others that can do screwy things with memory allocation. (See the Pokemon Glitch Exhibition for examples of how ridiculous it can get)

Ephraim225
Oct 28, 2010

SkyTalon2314 posted:

This type of thing definitely isn't unheard of in old games of the era, and there's plenty of others that can do screwy things with memory allocation. (See the Pokemon Glitch Exhibition for examples of how ridiculous it can get)

I remember that thread. The guy who made it is a pretty cool guy.

Anyhow, that's really cool that the demo mode winds up being used for a trick. I wonder if you can use that in another hole...I suppose the TAS would have done it if you could, but still.

Mercedes Colomar
Nov 1, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
You mentioned a ROM Hack, some crazy people made one for the Game Grumps. It works best as multiplayer, due to some crazy course shenanigans.

Mercedes Colomar fucked around with this message at 05:53 on Oct 31, 2016

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Senerio
Oct 19, 2009

Roëmænce is ælive!
I just found this thread but it's been fun so far. Congratulations on finishing!

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