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Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Nice post WhyteRyce, but your coverage of Papajohn is dearly lacking in discussion of Papa Papagiannis

https://twitter.com/lukewinn/status/746091178135805953

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WhyteRyce
Dec 30, 2001

dokmo posted:

Papagiannis is a lean mean pick and roll machine. Brandan Wright with better defense. He was always going to be a first round pick.

Wrong !!!!! Is lie!!

CRISPYBABY
Dec 15, 2007

by Reene

TheKevman posted:

I served him at a wine bar I used to work at and he literally broke down the triangle offense on his charcuterie board using Marcona almonds and dried cranberries as the two teams. Also, he tipped $30 on $85.

digging this mental picture

Also speaking of pictures really digging the thought that went into the Sac ones.

CRISPYBABY fucked around with this message at 08:09 on Oct 5, 2016

EmotionlessThug
Feb 14, 2012

WhyteRyce posted:

Wrong !!!!! Is lie!!

alansmithee
Jan 25, 2007

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!


Just want to say that KD is a great player and obviously it's his choice to move, but there has never been a time that he's been "cool".

straight up brolic
Jan 31, 2007

After all, I was nice in ball,
Came to practice weed scented
Report card like the speed limit

:homebrew::homebrew::homebrew:

Kevin Durant is a lame rear end follower and always has been. I don't think he likes a single thing that's surprising. The Tupac and Rick James tattoos were just the icing on the cake.

straight up brolic
Jan 31, 2007

After all, I was nice in ball,
Came to practice weed scented
Report card like the speed limit

:homebrew::homebrew::homebrew:

A grown rear end man committing to the Kanye West luxury backpack fad for a solid 6 years

chunkles
Aug 14, 2005

i am completely immersed in darkness
as i turn my body away from the sun
edit nvm

chunkles fucked around with this message at 14:23 on Oct 5, 2016

Lockback
Sep 3, 2006

All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.

Shear Modulus posted:

Nice post WhyteRyce, but your coverage of Papajohn is dearly lacking in discussion of Papa Papagiannis

https://twitter.com/lukewinn/status/746091178135805953

NBA player's foreign dads throwing constant shade at other, better prospects is 100% my poo poo.

milk milk lemonade
Jul 29, 2016

straight up brolic posted:

A grown rear end man committing to the Kanye West luxury backpack fad for a solid 6 years

*looks down at you with glasses that have no lenses*

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

dokmo posted:

Papagiannis is a lean mean pick and roll machine. Brandan Wright with better defense. He was always going to be a first round pick.

But Dokmo, he is one of the slowest basketball players I've ever seen with my own eyes.

[Sealion]

R.D. Mangles
Jan 10, 2004


in nba 2016? no is very soft

Jack's Flow
Jun 6, 2003

Life, friends, is boring
Thanks for doing the write-up, Kevman. Let's hope there will be less nut-kicking this season.

DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005

¡Hola SEA!


Strenuous Manflurry posted:

EXPECTATIONS

Fuuuuuck who knows? This is a weird team with a lot of what ifs. What if Hezonja refines the flashes he's shown? What if Gordon learns how to dunk from the three point line, and will that count as three points? What if Ibaka thrives as a 1 or 2 option? What if Fournier fully realizes his potential and becomes a star? What if this is a slapdash team with limited continuity that toils its way to a first round exit in the playoffs at best, and more likely winds up with 30-ish wins? The Magic are a weird team, and very young, and none of you are going to be able to watch any of their games.

The best case scenario is that the Magic have bigger Manu Ginobili, long armed defense playing Blake Griffin, and not an idiot Croatian Ricky Davis, with Ibaka, Biyombo, Vucevic, and Payton then being a ridiculously good supporting cast. The more likely scenario is the just have Jamal Crawford, Darius Miles with rebounds, and Croatian DeShawn Stevenson, and Ibaka and Vucevic are among the worst best two players on a team in the league.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

𝅘𝅥𝅮 I wanna go home with the armadillo
Good country music from Amarillo and Abilene
Friendliest people and the prettiest women you've ever seen
𝅘𝅥𝅮


The five-time, five-time, five-time, five-time, five-time NBA Champion San Antonio Spurs are entering their 50th season as a professional franchise, if one includes the time spent as the Dallas Chaparrals in the early days of the ABA. The Spurs are one of, if not the, most dominant team of any sport over the past 20 years, and yet they don't get the admiration their basketball contemporaries get. The primary reason for this is the 'boring' identity placed upon them by those who preferred the splash of players referred to by only one name. The Spurs organization is just fine with that, since they keep winning. This season will be different, though - Tim Duncan, the greatest power forward in basketball history, the man who made the playoffs in all 19 years of his service, all with just one team - quietly retired during the offseason. The move was not unexpected (again, he played for the Spurs for 19 seasons), so moves were made over the past few years to begin to move from the Big Three era to a focus on younger players. 2016-17 will be a transitioning season for San Antonio, but they're going to win another 50 games.

Coach - Gregg Popovich

One of the greatest NBA coaches of all time, Pop is a man of few words. Will probably tie Phil Jackson's record of 20 consecutive winning seasons coached unless something dramatically awful happens, in which case (as is precedent) the Spurs will grab the #1 overall pick in the draft and being the cycle anew.

STARTING LINEUP

Center - Pau Gasol

Signed for a two-year deal during the offseason, Gasol will be the bridge from Duncan to the future. As he has not played a regular-season game with the Spurs yet, this section is not very long.

Power Forward - LaMarcus Aldridge

The big free agent signing from last year, Aldridge has molded into the Spurs system of being a team player first and foremost. You could say this is another way of saying 'he didn't score as much as he did in Portland', but when you factor in his minutes being decreased by almost five minutes from one team to the next, it's not as big of an issue as one would suspect. Did not score a signel 3-pointer last year, which is a bit shocking. Aldridge represents one of the two 'present' stars for the Spurs, alongside...

Small Forward - Kawhi Leonard

TAKE A LOOK AT THESE HANDS! Unquestionably the most important player for the Spurs right now, Leonard is entering the prime of his career, excelling on both offense and defense. In my personal opinion, had the Warriors not won 73 games last year, he'd be the reigning MVP of the league. If there's one player to know going forward in San Antonio, it's Kawaii.

Shooting Guard - Danny Green

Hits 3-pointers and that's it. Really, that's the only notable thing about Green. Of course, that might just be me missing the forest for the trees considering that the rest of the starting lineup have been All-Stars at least twice and Green's never been invited.

Point Guard - Tony Parker

The all-time Spurs leader in assists, Parker has said in interviews he wants to play until 2021, which would be his 20th season. If his stats keep up for another five years, Parker will go down as the second-best Spur of all time. With the rise of Aldridge and Leonard, his importance in scoring has gone down significantly. Defensively he's still good enough to be effective against most of the league.

EXPECTATIONS
Number Six. Barring that, 60+ wins and multiple awards.

alansmithee
Jan 25, 2007

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!


I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I'd say Danny Green's one of a handful of prototypical 3&D guys, so he's known for a bit more than his shooting (which kinda fell off last year). Also Parker could play 20 more years but he'll still never pass Robinson (who tbh is probably the best Spur ever, but I'm assuming you had Duncan there).

Lockback
Sep 3, 2006

All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.
Yeah Danny Green is an exceptionally good defender across a couple different positions. He really, really needs to find his 3 point stroke again though, he took a step back both in how many he took and how many he hit.

straight up brolic
Jan 31, 2007

After all, I was nice in ball,
Came to practice weed scented
Report card like the speed limit

:homebrew::homebrew::homebrew:

Lockback posted:

Yeah Danny Green is an exceptionally good defender across a couple different positions. He really, really needs to find his 3 point stroke again though, he took a step back both in how many he took and how many he hit.
Exceptionally might be a stretch I think he's just great. He doesn't do anything to break offenses but he's very very solid

Cool Buff Man
Jul 30, 2006

bitch

alansmithee posted:

I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I'd say Danny Green's one of a handful of prototypical 3&D guys, so he's known for a bit more than his shooting (which kinda fell off last year). Also Parker could play 20 more years but he'll still never pass Robinson (who tbh is probably the best Spur ever, but I'm assuming you had Duncan there).

"Kinda" dropped off is entirely too kind. He had a .492 true shooting last year, down from .596 the year before, and a .588 ts% for his career. That's insane. He's got Steve Sax level yips and I hope he figures it out.

EvanTH
Apr 24, 2004

i like to express my inner pain by being really boring on the phone
or just when i'm kickin it
that's me though
i'm kind of oddddddd

WhyteRyce posted:

Wrong !!!!! Is lie!!

Haha an accent so strong you can hear it in their written english

EvanTH
Apr 24, 2004

i like to express my inner pain by being really boring on the phone
or just when i'm kickin it
that's me though
i'm kind of oddddddd

Cool Buff Man posted:

"Kinda" dropped off is entirely too kind. He had a .492 true shooting last year, down from .596 the year before, and a .588 ts% for his career. That's insane. He's got Steve Sax level yips and I hope he figures it out.

Everyone knows Spurs Roleplayers go from looking like a clutch playoffs performer to pathetic backup after signing a big contract but normally it doesn't happen after they resign with the Spurs

TheShazbot
Feb 20, 2011



It's 2016 in Portland, contrary to popular belief. Although things about Portlandia are still true. 40 years since our last championship, and here's what you need to know:

Returning Players:

Damian Lillard - The cornerstone of this Trail Blazer team, a natural leader, involved in the community, has a decent rap career. Has an array of sick offensive moves and is improving on defense. Always exciting to watch. Also this:


CJ McCollum - 2016 Most Improved Player - A combo-guard with great offensive moves who can score in the lane, from the 3, mid-range J? Done. Does a lot of Player's Tribune postings and wants to be a journalist. Along with Dame, typically gets eaten for lunch on defense by bigger, stronger guards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0tWxG8nUHU&t=8s

Al-Farouq Aminu - Defensive specialist, rough handles and has an improving 3-ball. A real glue guy. Probably will be starting/playing at the 4 this season.
Ed Davis - Chill as gently caress, blue-collar lunch pail dude. A walking double-double if he gets his minutes. Typically destroys bench units.

Allen Crabbe - 2nd round pick who struck it rich in this last free agency, a typical 3 and D guard at 6'6", may play some 3 as well. Mostly plays catch-and-shoot and has a low assist rate.
Mason Plumlee - Oh god, a Plumlee, how many of these are there? A Plumlee and a Zeller for EVERY team. Mason has playmaking tendencies, but is a black hole outside of the rim. Rumor is that he is working on a jump shot.

Meyers Leonard - 7'1" and plays on the perimeter, let's see if this is the year Meyers finally breaks out and no longer looks lost on the court. Has a great stroke on the 3 and was a member of the 50/40/90 club recently (in small sample sizes). Looks like Justin Bieber.
Noah Vonleh - A first-rounder Portland got in the Nicolas Batum trade, still very young and raw. Started a lot of the games last year at PF, but may not get much playtime this year, due to the deep bench.
Maurice Harkless - A jack of all trades player with alot of skills in his toolbox, and is steadily improving and young. A reclamation project that landed in Portland for peanuts.
Pat Connaughton - End of the bench dude from Notre Dame, was drafted in both baseball and basketball.
Luis Montero - trashtalked kobe, raw, never plays.

New players:
Evan Turner - Portland's "big" free agent signing. Alot of people think he was overpaid, but Turner's ballhandling will allow Lillard and McCollum to play off-ball which they are far more dangerous.
That, and who doesn't love a guy who says things like this: "You've gotta respect a 15-percent 3-point shooter. A guy like that is always lethal."
Festus Ezeli - A Warriors cast-off, probably going to be broken half the year or will have a career-ending knee injury. Luckily, the contract is short and reasonable.
Shabazz Napier - I don't really know anything about this dude. But being on 3 teams in 3 years either means overhyped or just hasn't gotten playtime.
Jake Layman (2nd round pick) - Tall, white, yep

Dudes that are gone:
Chris Kaman - basically albino sasquatch or the most NW player we had. Named his son Barrett and has his own outdoors TV show named "Exploring Kaman". Likes mid-range jumpers and being slow on defense.
Gerald Henderson - Now on the 76ers, this guy didn't fit Portland's roster well due to his lack of a consistent 3. Has more of a throwback style and loves to take it to the rack.
Cliff Alexander - On the Magic now, lots of upside but basically rode the bench all season. Would have been a first-round pick had he not had eligibility issues.
Brian Roberts - 3rd-string PG who won't take you out of the game, and was a last minute trade throw-in at the deadline, he went back to Charlotte.

The (important) non-players:

Kevin Calabro - Broadcaster - The longtime voice of the Seattle Supersonics (RIP). This is the thing I'm most excited about this season, Portland home broadcasting won't be as homerish or awful. The upgrade from Mike Barrett and Mike Rice should make watching the Portland broadcasts less cringe-worthy.

Paul Allen, owner - has a superyacht, historically has meddled with the front office decisions - seems to be letting the cake bake this time and is willing to go into the luxury tax on the current team. Made his money from Microsoft in the beginning.

Neil Olshey, GM - Not as cool as our previous GM's which we could make trade monikers like "pritch-slapped" but has done a decent job since coming from the Clippers.
Made the best out of the situation, as Portland is not exactly the place that young, hip black millionaires want to go to.

Terry Stotts, Head Coach - Basically Rick Carlisle-lite, alot of the game planning and defensive work is very similar to Dallas schemes. Does a fairly decent job of trying to minimize defensive weaknesses or exploit advantages with substitutions.

RedApe98
Mar 17, 2009




Portland has been a really fun young team to watch the last couple years. They really lucked out with injuries to other teams and matchups in the playoffs this year so they way overshot expectations but that just means they now have some decent playoff experience which they needed badly. Offensively they are one of the best in the league but inexperience, bad guard defense and very poor rim protection leave their defense much to be desired. I think I remember it being talked about that Stott's system focuses on perimeter defense and denying the 3 ball and that seemed to work fairly well versus the Warriors, they were one of the few teams to beat them in the regular season(It was a pretty good game if I recall). I am personally not that excited about the Evan Turner acquisition but they still managed to keep most of the roster I liked so :yotj:

Bashez
Jul 19, 2004

:10bux:

straight up brolic posted:

Exceptionally might be a stretch I think he's just great. He doesn't do anything to break offenses but he's very very solid

Green was the best defensive SG last year by a mile. I think he's pretty easily an exceptional defender.

Dejan Bimble
Mar 24, 2008

we're all black friends
Plaster Town Cop

Shear Modulus posted:

Nice post WhyteRyce, but your coverage of Papajohn is dearly lacking in discussion of Papa Papagiannis

https://twitter.com/lukewinn/status/746091178135805953

For what its worth everyone who went to the last few eurocamps really liked Papa John, it wasn't a totally crazy move

straight up brolic
Jan 31, 2007

After all, I was nice in ball,
Came to practice weed scented
Report card like the speed limit

:homebrew::homebrew::homebrew:

Bashez posted:

Green was the best defensive SG last year by a mile. I think he's pretty easily an exceptional defender.
if you're just looking at the stats, Monta Ellis was the second best SG in the league. They don't come close to the whole story.

WhyteRyce
Dec 30, 2001

Dejan Bimble posted:

For what its worth everyone who went to the last few eurocamps really liked Papa John, it wasn't a totally crazy move

Detroit was apparently interested in him (and the Boban signing shows they love their giant Euros) and I wonder if bringing in Ken Cantanella helped sway things that way

Bashez
Jul 19, 2004

:10bux:

straight up brolic posted:

if you're just looking at the stats, Monta Ellis was the second best SG in the league. They don't come close to the whole story.

Is this a joke I don't get?

Metapod
Mar 18, 2012
The Oklahoma City Thunder

PG: Westbrook, Payne, Christon
SG: Oladipo, Abrines, Morrow
SF: Roberson, Singler, Huestis
PF: Sabonis, Ilyasova, Collison
C: Adams, Kanter, Lauvergne

This is a lazy post

chunkles
Aug 14, 2005

i am completely immersed in darkness
as i turn my body away from the sun
I updated my post to reflect the changes and to include more effusive praise for Kyle Wiltjer, possibly the greatest white Rockets player since Chandler Parsons.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
New Pistons additions:

Beno Udrih: historically a quality backup who drains midrange jumpers. Mostly his signing makes me feel bad for Ray McCallum, who had the third PG spot (second while Jackson is out) until the Heat waived Beno.

Mamadou N'Diaye: Going straight to Grand Rapids. Notable for being 7'6" and a former star for the UC Irvine Anteaters. Zot zot bitch.

WhyteRyce
Dec 30, 2001

Ray McCallum is one of those weird cases to me. His rookie year, Malone had to play him 44-48 minutes once Jimmer was waived and the man put up decent stats and looked like a rotation player. But then he turned into a pumpkin for no reason that I can figure out and can't even stick around a team in a D-League capacity.

RCarr
Dec 24, 2007

Anyone planning on doing a Knicks write-up? I can put one together but probably not for a few days.

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EvanTH
Apr 24, 2004

i like to express my inner pain by being really boring on the phone
or just when i'm kickin it
that's me though
i'm kind of oddddddd

WhyteRyce posted:

Ray McCallum is one of those weird cases to me. His rookie year, Malone had to play him 44-48 minutes once Jimmer was waived and the man put up decent stats and looked like a rotation player. But then he turned into a pumpkin for no reason that I can figure out and can't even stick around a team in a D-League capacity.

It's important to have Ray around as he is the Malakili to Boban's Rancor

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