- Byolante
- Mar 23, 2008
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by Cyrano4747
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I'm not sure what you mean. Yewtree was a group of pedophiles who worked together in British entertainment using their unique access to children to commit serial abuse. Monstrous, but what does it have to do with the US? No evidence of a system or culture of pedophilia was found (thank god), just a bunch of rich criminals and the enablers who didn't want to report them because it might cost their jobs.
The exact same type of horror went down at Penn State. Are you suggesting that there's a culture of child abuse at Penn State? Or is it more likely one pedophile committed awful crimes and a bunch of cowards were too chickenshit to call him out? Either way, your conviction that a culture of serial child abuse absolutely must exist in the US, completely independent of any evidence, is why theories like Pizzagate are perfectly suited for the current climate. Expect many more of them in the future.
Its skirting dangerously close to the edges of poo poo you end up in front of the beak for libel to go into what was actually going on in the political and judical bodies up until the end of the Thatcher era when John Major managed to gently caress them all off because he didn't need their support to hold power. There absolutely were networks of like minded individuals who used their positions of power to protect them from the consequences of their actions. This went on in many and varied types of crimes, not just paedo poo poo. You see the same style of behavior in the US with other types of crime involving people in similar situations and I find it unlikely in the extreme that somehow it doesn't include paedo poo poo because of american exceptionalism or something.
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I'm not sure what you mean. Yewtree was a group of pedophiles who worked together in British entertainment using their unique access to children to commit serial abuse. Monstrous, but what does it have to do with the US? No evidence of a system or culture of pedophilia was found (thank god), just a bunch of rich criminals and the enablers who didn't want to report them because it might cost their jobs.
We almost certainly have/had similar groups operating in our entertainment industry.There are enough people who claim to have been victims that I think it extremely unlikely that they are all lying about it. The Catholic Church admitted to protecting and enabling child abusers, up to and included bringing them home to Rome to avoid extradition. The Franklin Coverup is almost certainly true in part.
Basically serial child abusers work together to give each other cover and access to children.
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- BarbarianElephant
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The fairy of forgiveness has removed your red text.
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Pizzagate is ridiculous because it's a cartoonish satanic panic thing. There are real pedophile rings among the rich and powerful, but nothing so supervillain as kids chained up in the basement of a pizza parlor/performance art space. It's more like a man in power overawing a kid and his parents and using this influence to abuse the kid and "lend" him to his friends. That's how it worked in the UK. That's how it worked at Penn State. Someone in the US government is probably doing it right now, but it's probably not the guy you really wish it was, the guy who you really disagree with politically.
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- EugeneJ
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by FactsAreUseless
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The Pizzagate shooter's father ran a private group called Protect-A-Child and was later appointed to a Commission on Child Victimization by the governor of North Carolina.
Now this could run both ways - did the Pizzagate shooter learn about child abuse from his father's work, hear about Pizzagate, then choose to investigate Comet Ping Pong? Or is his family involved in some kind of cover-up of child abuse?
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by Lowtax
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The Pizzagate shooter's father ran a private group called Protect-A-Child and was later appointed to a Commission on Child Victimization by the governor of North Carolina.
Now this could run both ways - did the Pizzagate shooter learn about child abuse from his father's work, hear about Pizzagate, then choose to investigate Comet Ping Pong? Or is his family involved in some kind of cover-up of child abuse?
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by FactsAreUseless
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http://harrywelchjr.com/
quote:Harry Welch, Jr. (Owner of Forever Young Productions) worked in the broadcasting industry for over 25 years. Dozens of Harry's article have been published in several national magazines. He has written over 35 screenplays.
Harry has been married to his wife, Terri for 35 years. They have three children; Harry Lee (1981-1997), Blaire, and Edgar Maddison and 4 grandchildren.
He was selected as an arbitrator for the North Carolina Dental Association
Elected President of the North Carolina Crime Stoppers Association (two terms)
Served as Executive Director for Protect-A-Child, a national, non-profit organization to prevent abuse and abduction of children. Appointed by Governor Jim Martin to the Governor's Commission on Child Victimization.
Harry served two terms on the Boy Scouts of America Council for Central North Carolina.
They have also served as a foster family to three different children.
He and Terri, both are qualified as Boy Scout Counselors and merit badge instructors.
His family hosted a Brazilian exchange student for a year.
Harry has served as a deacon of his church for 16 years. He has been a Gideon since 1988. As well, he has taught Sunday School for 20 years.
He was selected "Father of the Year" at Neel Road Baptist Church in 1997.
Rowan County Register of Deeds 2010-2014
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Yeah how did you get from that to "his family is covering up child abuse", like what the gently caress. I wasn't sure if you were trying to be extremely meta by coming up with your own idiotic conspiracy theory in the fake news thread.
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I thought he was trying to guess the next direction the idiotic story will turn.
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Yeah how did you get from that to "his family is covering up child abuse", like what the gently caress. I wasn't sure if you were trying to be extremely meta by coming up with your own idiotic conspiracy theory in the fake news thread.
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To think before you speak is like wiping your arse before you shit.
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http://presse.no/pfu/etiske-regler/vaer-varsom-plakaten/vvpl-engelsk/
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Ethical Code of Practice for the Press (printed press, radio, television and net publications). Adopted by the Norwegian Press Association June 13. 2015.
Each editor and editorial staff member is required to be familiar with these ethical standards of the press, and to base their practice on this code. The ethical practice comprehends the complete journalistic process from research to publication.
1. The Role of the Press in Society
1.1. Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Information and Freedom of the Press are basic elements of a democracy. A free, independent press is among the most important institutions in a democratic society.
1.2. The press has important functions in that it carries information, debates and critical comments on current affairs. The press is particularly responsible for allowing different views to be expressed.
1.3. The press shall protect the freedom of speech, the freedom of the press and the principle of access to official documents. It cannot yield to any pressure from anybody who might want to prevent open debates, the free flow of information and free access to sources. Agreements concerning exclusive event reporting shall not preclude independent news reporting.
1.4. It is the right of the press to carry information on what goes on in society and to uncover and disclose matters, which ought to be subjected to criticism. It is a press obligation to shed critical light on how media themselves exercise their role.
1.5. It is the task of the press to protect individuals and groups against injustices or neglect, committed by public authorities and institutions, private enterprises, or others.
Integrity and credibility
2.1 The responsible editor carries personal and full responsibility for the contents of the media and has the final decision in any questions regarding editorial content, financing, presentation and publication. The editor shall act freely and independently towards any persons or groups who – for ideological, economic or other reasons – might want to exercise an influence over the editorial content. The editor shall safeguard the editorial staff’s production of free and independent journalism.
2.2 The editor and the individual editorial staff member must protect their independence, integrity and credibility. Avoid dual roles, positions, commissions or commitments that create conflicts of interest connected to or leading to speculations of disqualification.
3 Be open on matters that could be relevant for how the public perceive the journalistic content.
2.4 Members of the editorial staff must not exploit their position in order to achieve personal gain, including receiving money, goods or services, that can be perceived as compensation from outsiders for editorial benefits.
2.5 A member of the editorial staff cannot be ordered to do anything that is contrary to his or her convictions.
2.6 Never undermine the clear distinction between editorial copy and advertisements. It must be obvious to the public what is deemed to be commercial content. The distinction must be obvious also when using web links and other connective means. Decline any commercial content that can be confused with the individual medium’s journalistic presentation.
Editorial mention of products, services, brand names and commercial interests, including the media’s own, must be motivated by editorial considerations and must not appear as an advertisement. Maintain an obvious distinction between marketing activities and editorial work. Turn down any offers of journalistic favours in return for advertisements. Avoid indiscriminate reproduction of PR material.
2.8 Hidden advertising is incompatible with good press practice. Commercial interests must not influence journalistic activities, content or presentation. If the editorial material is sponsored, or a programme has product placements, this must be obvious to the public. Sponsorship must always be clearly marked. Sponsorship or product placement in news or current affairs journalism or journalism directed at children is incompatible with good press practice. Direct expenses for journalistic activities must in the main be paid by the editorial department itself. In the event of an exception, the audience must be made aware of what is financed by external interests.
2.9 Members of the editorial staff must not accept assignments from anyone other than editorial management.
3. Journalistic Conduct and Relations with the Sources
3.1. The source of information must, as a rule, be identified, unless this conflicts with source protection or consideration for a third party.
3.2. Be critical in the choice of sources, and make sure that the information provided is correct. It is good press practice to aim for diversity and relevance in the choice of sources. If anonymous sources are used, or the publication is offered exclusivity, especially stringent requirements must be imposed on the critical evaluation of the sources. Particular caution should be exercised when dealing with information from anonymous sources, information from sources offering exclusivity, and information provided from sources in return for payment.
3.3. Good press conduct requires clarification of the terms on which an interview is being carried out. This also pertains to adjacent research. Any agreement regarding quote check should be made in advance of the interview, and it should be made clear what the agreement includes and what deadlines apply. The editors decide for themselves what should finally be published.
3.4. Protect the sources of the press. The protection of sources is a basic principle in a free society and is a prerequisite for the ability of the press to fulfil its duties towards society and ensure the access to essential information.
3.5. Do not divulge the name of a person who has provided information on a confidential basis, unless consent has been explicitly given by the person concerned.
3.6. In consideration of the sources and the independence of the press, unpublished material as a main rule should not be divulged to third parties.
3.7. It is the duty of the press to report the intended meaning in quotes from an interview. Direct quotes must be accurate.
3.8. Changes of a given statement should be limited to corrections of factual errors. No one without editorial authority may intervene in the editing or presentation of editorial material
3.9. Proceed tactfully in journalistic research. In particular show consideration for people who cannot be expected to be aware of the effect that their statements may have. Never abuse the emotions or feeling of other people, their ignorance or their lack of judgment. Remember that people in shock or grief are more vulnerable than others.
3.10. Hidden cameras/microphones or false identity may only be used under special circumstances. The condition must be that such a method is the only possible way to uncover cases of essential importance to society.
3.11. The press shall as a rule not pay sources or interviewees for information. Exercise moderation when paying a consideration for news tips. It is incompatible with good press practice to employ payment schemes designed to tempt people, without due cause, to invade the privacy of others or to disclose sensitive personal information.
4. Publication Rules
4.1.Make a point of fairness and thoughtfulness in contents and presentation.
4.2. Make plain what is factual information and what is comment.
4.3. Always respect a person’s character and identity, privacy, etnicity, nationality and belief..Be careful when using terms that create stigmas. Never draw attention to personal or private aspects if they are irrelevant.
4.4. Make sure that headlines, introductions and leads do not go beyond what is being related in the text. It is considered good press conduct to reveal your source when the information is quoted from other media.
4.5. In particular avoid presumption of guilt in crime and court reporting. Make it evident that the question of guilt, whether relating to somebody under suspicion, reported, accused or charged, has not been decided until the sentence has legal efficacy. It is a part of good press conduct to report the final result of court proceedings, which have been reported earlier.
4.6. Always consider how reports on accidents and crime may affect the victims and next-of-kin. Do not identify victims or missing persons unless next-of-kin have been informed. Show consideration towards people in grief or at times of shock.
4.7. Be cautious in the use of names and photographs and other clear identifiers of persons in referring to contentious or punishable matters. Special caution should be exercised when reporting cases at the early stage of investigation, cases concerning young offenders and cases in which an identifying report may place an unreasonable burden on a third party. Identification must be founded on a legitimate need for information. It may, for instance, be legitimate to identify someone where there is imminent danger of assault on defenceless individuals, in the case of serious and repeated crimes, if the identity or social position of the subject is patently relevant to the case being reported on, or where identification protects the innocent from exposure to unjustified suspicion.
4.8. Reporting on children, it is considered good press conduct to assess the implications that media focusing could cause in each case. This also pertains when the person in charge or parent, has agreed to exposure. As a general rule the identity of children should not be disclosed in reports on family disputes or cases under consideration by the childcare authorities or by the courts.
4.9. Be cautious when reporting on suicide and attempted suicide. Avoid reporting that is not necessary for meeting a general need for information. Avoid description of methods or other matters that may contribute to provoking further suicidal actions.
4.10. Exercise caution when using photos in any other context than the original.
4.11. Protect the credibility of the journalistic photograph. Photos used as documentation must not be altered in a way that creates a false impression. Manipulated photos can only be accepted as illustrations if it is evident that it in actual fact is a picture collage.
4.12. The use of pictures must comply with the same requirements of caution as for a written or oral presentation.
4.13. Incorrect information must be corrected and, when called for, an apology given, as soon as possible.
4.14. Those who have been subjected to strong accusations shall, if possible, have the opportunity to simultaneous reply as regards factual information. Debates, criticism and dissemination of news must not be hampered by parties being unwilling to make comments or take part in the debate.
4.15. Those who have been the subject of an attack shall have the chance to reply at the earliest opportunity, unless the attack and criticism are part of a running exchange of views. Any reply should be of reasonable length, be pertinent to the matter and seemly in its form. The reply can be refused if the party in question has rejected, without an objective reason, an offer of presenting a contemporaneous rejoinder on the same issue. Replies and contributions to the debate should not be accompanied by polemic editorial comment.
4.16. Beware that digital publication pointers and links could bring you to other electronic media that do not comply with the Ethical Code. See to it that links to other media or publications are clearly marked. It is considered good press conduct to inform the users of interactive services on how the publication registers you, and possibly exploits your use of the services.
4.17. Should the editorial staff choose not to pre-edit digital chatting, this has to be announced in a clear manner for those accessing the pages. The editorial staff has a particular responsibility, instantly to remove inserts that are not in compliance with the Ethical Code.
This is pretty similar to your late Fairness doctrine, though i got the impression your was kinda heavy handed(but since you allready had the FCC)
Now, for a lot of other reason mainly due to Facebook giving us a picture how the 30 year war could be so much infinitly much worse, this is sorta spilt milk, it would have done you a lot of good, but if you can't get build up credibility(something which the "Zomg MSM" crowd keeps forgetting) its not gonna do much good when every yahoo and Georgian watching Last Week Tonight thinking they can make a cheap buck.
But at any rate...isnt this a poster you'd want to stick on your wall?
Also checkout this dozy
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles...tack?src=usn_fb
Fake-news....fake Brown Moses.
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What an incredibly stupid idea.
quote:"It's way beyond fake news," Cohen says. "Our focus is on taking very complex, typically controversial issues where you have lots of evidence in different directions, sometimes conflicting evidence, evidence with different reliabilities – where us humans, because of all kinds of cognitive flaws, just aren't able to deal with so much information – and coming up with the right conclusion."
An algorithm that can replace journalistic, scientific, and historical judgment...based on the kind of programs that randomly get in the way of my paying my rent every so often. lol
I'm a little shocked that US News & World Report is covering them so credulously, though. I don't actually read USN&WR often, but I was under the impression it was a respectable publication.
Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Dec 10, 2016
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by Cyrano4747
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What an incredibly stupid idea.
An algorithm that can replace journalistic, scientific, and historical judgment...based on the kind of programs that randomly get in the way of my paying my rent every so often. lol
I'm a little shocked that US News & World Report is covering them so credulously, though. I don't actually read USN&WR often, but I was under the impression it was a respectable publication.
Paypal tried to protect me from fraud when I was donating 10 dollars to movember so I trust their accuracy on who made the chemical weapon attacks for sure.
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""South Carolina Congressman Jeff Duncan" posted:
After reviewing a report that my office received, we found that the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) has moved $166,590,000 away from health programs in order to fund the flooding of illegal migrant children that have been coming across our unsecured southern border. The $166 million is in addition to the $1.3 billion that Congress had already appropriated for the migrant child issue.
The Obama Administration have transferred $14 million away from the CDC which includes funding for key programs like HIV/AIDS, Environmental Health, and birth defect studies.
HHS also moved $71 million away from the National Institutes of Health (NIH) which depletes money from programs like the National Cancer Institute, National Institute of Mental Health, Diabetes, and Neurological disorders, just to name a few.
I wanted to post this information for a few reasons:
1) Every year I have dozens of people travel up to Washington to meet with me to encourage Congress to allocate more money for medical research. You have the right to know that millions of that money has been diverted to non-citizens.
2) Over 50,000 unaccompanied children have crossed the southern border over the past year. Parents from Central and South America are sending their children here because they know how lax America's view of immigration enforcement is. This mentality needs to change immediately, both for the safety of these children and to preserve the sovereign integrity of the United States. We cannot incentivize people to come into this country illegally.
3) Our immigration enforcement and border security has a long way to go to get to where we need to be. I have long referred to our southern border as the soft underbelly of America. However, with President Elect Trump's selection of Gen. Kelly as DHS Secretary and Jeff Sessions as Attorney General, I am hopeful that we will finally start to move in a better direction.
My spider sense tells me there's some bullshit here. I've tried to find more information on the claim, but the only places I can find talking about it are notoriously unreliable right-wing websites, and only within the last day or two.
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