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The Consultant posted:I've been listening to all sorts of loungy/downtempo/jazz/chillout stuff, everything running the gamut of The Cinematic Orchestra, Thievery Corporation, and long time favorite Bark Psychosis, to more bossa-nova-esque pop stuff like Nouvelle Vague. Now, I love the poo poo out of this genre and have quite a lot of it, but as of late I'm in a bit of a 'electronic mixed with live instrument oriented music sounds like rear end' phase (sup Zero 7, Bonobo, etc), if anyone could recommend me some more live instrument oriented stuff in the genre that would be AMAZING. to be overtly more specific I'm a huge fan of the classy sounding bit at the end of Radiohead - Optimistic that carries into In Limbo. try Tortoise, United Future Organization, Jaga Jazzist, Liquid Soul and The Brand New Heavies. also maybe Senor Coconut, they don't sound like the end of that radiohead song but they do remind me of Nouvelle Vague and their stuff is live. i have to say though, i'm also a pretty big fan of the genre and from what i've heard the sample-based producers (xploding plastix, wagon christ, thievery corporation etc) making that kind of music are consistently better than the live guys with the exception of Cinematic Orchestra IMO. the live bands tend to sound a lot more like straight up jazz with a hip hop or house beat, or kind of Jamiroquai style funky house with real instruments, not like Ninja Tune Records brand of acid jazz. i don't really see why not playing live instruments bothers you, though, when sampling's done well it either sounds enough like real instruments or is mixed together in an artful way, ideally most of them seem like they want it to sound like a hip hop dj mixing two funk records together which isn't electronic at all. i get what you mean with artists that use a lot of synths and cheesy computery effects though. Ashenai: Search last.fm for artists tagged with 'eurobeat' you will thank me for this i promise also, e-rotic kundalini rinsing fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Apr 29, 2009 |
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The Consultant posted:I've been listening to all sorts of loungy/downtempo/jazz/chillout stuff, everything running the gamut of The Cinematic Orchestra, Thievery Corporation, and long time favorite Bark Psychosis, to more bossa-nova-esque pop stuff like Nouvelle Vague. Now, I love the poo poo out of this genre and have quite a lot of it, but as of late I'm in a bit of a 'electronic mixed with live instrument oriented music sounds like rear end' phase (sup Zero 7, Bonobo, etc), if anyone could recommend me some more live instrument oriented stuff in the genre that would be AMAZING. to be overtly more specific I'm a huge fan of the classy sounding bit at the end of Radiohead - Optimistic that carries into In Limbo. I'm not sure if you'd like Bitter:Sweet or think they sound like rear end, but I'd definitely describe them as loungey and jazzy. They're not as downtempo as something like Thievery Corporation or Portishead, but they definitely have that smoky, sexy, retro vibe.
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Technetium posted:You need Killing Joke. That's the essential noise rock you're missing. Killing Loaf posted:The Birthday Party and Butthole Surfers are the only "essentials" that haven't been mentioned that I can think of, but check out Scratch Acid, Flipper, and Chrome too. kingcobweb posted:Cows, Royal Trux, Rapeman, STNNNG, Young Widows, Witch Hats. Those last three aren't "essential" but they were recommended by someone else on the forums, and I love them. Thanks for all the suggestions guys, downloaded Killing Joke's "What's This For?", The Cows' "Cunning Stunts" and Flipper's "Generic" with my Zune Pass. I've heard so many good things about Killing Joke, can't believe it took me this long to actually get into them. Thanks again.
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Jeff Wiiver posted:Been getting into noise rock recently, and so far have really enjoyed the following bands: Yes. Black Eyes - Black Eyes Swans - Filth Oxbow - An Evil Heat Pissed Jeans - Shallow Genghis Tron - either album. I got into them by listening to "Dead Mountain Mouth" first but the second album owns hards too, so.... If you like the Flipper album then definately get the pissed jeans record. Twisted Aristocrat fucked around with this message at 19:33 on Apr 29, 2009 |
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Apr 29, 2009 19:31
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But primarily seconding The Birthday Party because they're probably the best band ever. Excluding Godspeed i guess :/
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So I have a conundrum. I've immensely enjoyed the bits of amateur DJing I've done, and I want to play all the EDM songs I love in front of crowds of people (at college). However, I think roughly 98% of the music I download/youtube/otherwise investigate is crap. I need to build up a decent library of tracks I really like, but it's hard at this rate. I get some huge anthology or what have you, and only 3 or 4 songs will stick out from hundreds. I have this sneaking suspicion that I'm just not looking in the right places. I'm mostly into genres starting with "hard-", mainly hard trance. Some of my favorite tracks I've found are Stay Where You Are by Batch, Bangin' by Vandall, and Make Me Shake by Ananda Shake. As you can gather if you're familiar with those songs, I like big climaxes, a relatively abrasive sound palette, and I'm not big on "real" vocals (ie verses, choruses, etc. Samples are So, what big artists/tracks should I make sure to hear in the areas of hard trance, hardstyle, goa trance, et al?
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:Bitter:Sweet not bad, cheers  etard knievel posted:try Tortoise, United Future Organization, Jaga Jazzist, Liquid Soul and The Brand New Heavies. also maybe Senor Coconut, they don't sound like the end of that radiohead song but they do remind me of Nouvelle Vague and their stuff is live. i have to say though, i'm also a pretty big fan of the genre and from what i've heard the sample-based producers (xploding plastix, wagon christ, thievery corporation etc) making that kind of music are consistently better than the live guys with the exception of Cinematic Orchestra IMO. the live bands tend to sound a lot more like straight up jazz with a hip hop or house beat, or kind of Jamiroquai style funky house with real instruments, not like Ninja Tune Records brand of acid jazz. i don't really see why not playing live instruments bothers you, though, when sampling's done well it either sounds enough like real instruments or is mixed together in an artful way, ideally most of them seem like they want it to sound like a hip hop dj mixing two funk records together which isn't electronic at all. i get what you mean with artists that use a lot of synths and cheesy computery effects though. thanks much for the recommendations, I'll be sure to give em a go. I if you're into Tortoise and this genre in general i highly recommend you hunt down a Bark Psychosis album.
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QUEST FOR TIRE posted:Yes! I love Mercury Rev. Anything else? You'll like Furniture - Twilight Chases the Sun. Also check out The Radio Dept. They're not really experimental, but I've noticed lots of crossover between them and Mercury Rev.
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Muffin Loaf posted:So I have a conundrum. I've immensely enjoyed the bits of amateur DJing I've done, and I want to play all the EDM songs I love in front of crowds of people (at college). However, I think roughly 98% of the music I download/youtube/otherwise investigate is crap. I need to build up a decent library of tracks I really like, but it's hard at this rate. I get some huge anthology or what have you, and only 3 or 4 songs will stick out from hundreds. I have this sneaking suspicion that I'm just not looking in the right places. Hard trance: Dark by Design, Phil York, Scot Project, Yoji, Alex Kidd, Lucas Antolini. Hardstyle the obvious ones are Headhunterz, Showtek, Technoboy and the labels Scantraxx, Dance Pollution, Dutch Master Works, Fusion. Personally my favourite hardstyle track is Builder - Her Voice, has a great breakdown check that out.
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Looking for 3 things. As much as I love my music now, when you work on the computer 8 hours a day with music playing at all times, you like a little variety. I am woefully ignorant of music in general, and it's pretty much limited to eighties metal at this point. The first is rap that isn't poo poo. I refuse to believe that what Lil' Wayne puts out is the pinnacle of what it can sound like. I am not a fan of any "black plight" music, nor hos or bitches, or any songs that use the word "nigga/friend of the family" non-sarcastically. The second is electronic, ambient, and techno music. Anything good even remotely in this genre, I'll try it. The last is orchestrated music. I'm not a fan of the "frilly" sounding Mozart or Tchaikovsky pieces. Think the soundtracks to video games such as Castlevania. Thanks to anyone who can help me out.
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Aturaten posted:Looking for 3 things. As much as I love my music now, when you work on the computer 8 hours a day with music playing at all times, you like a little variety. I am woefully ignorant of music in general, and it's pretty much limited to eighties metal at this point. Sounds like you might enjoy 1)White person backpacker bullshit. Look up anticon. They're terrible, but I'd wager you'll enjoy them. 2)Probably Aphex Twin. 3) Some more video game soundtracks! Like a Final Fantasy or something. (I guess Holst's Planets suite might fit here, or some bombastic poo poo like certain Wagner/Bruckner pieces, also).
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May 1, 2009 14:56
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cryme posted:patronizing bullshit hurrr. Anticon is possibly the worst poo poo I've ever listened to, by the way. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Aturaten posted:The first is rap that isn't poo poo. I refuse to believe that what Lil' Wayne puts out is the pinnacle of what it can sound like. I am not a fan of any "black plight" music, nor hos or bitches, or any songs that use the word "nigga/friend of the family" non-sarcastically. This is kind of difficult not to flame, but I guess you're looking for positive hip-hop that doesn't try to confront what it means to be black in America or whatever? Maybe try A Tribe Called Quest "Award Tour", Beastie Boys "The Sounds of Science", Aesop Rock's "Daylight", Gang Starr's "Soliloquoy of Chaos," Dr. Octogon's "Earth People", Digable Planets, "Cool Like That."
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May 1, 2009 15:29
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Asher Roth doesn't confront the realities of race in America; maybe you'd like him.
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Aturaten posted:hurrr.
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Alright, the rap was not the main concern, I'm looking more for the electronic and orchestrated music. Anything good.
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May 1, 2009 15:52
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Shostakovich is pretty good I hear.
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Aturaten posted:The first is rap that isn't poo poo. I refuse to believe that what Lil' Wayne puts out is the pinnacle of what it can sound like. I am not a fan of any "black plight" music, nor hos or bitches, or any songs that use the word "nigga/friend of the family" non-sarcastically.
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Aturaten posted:hurrr. As for electronic music, Tangerine Dream's "Rubycon", Meat Beat Manifesto's "Actual Sounds and Voices", check out the Sleepin Music thread for ambient, Venetian Snares' "Rossz csillag alatt született", LFO's Sheath. For classical, Bach's Brandenburg Concertos, Vivaldi's Four Seasons, Stravinsky's Rites of Spring.
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cryme posted:Wagner cryme beat me to it. Wagner is not frilly, and as a plus, he would probably share your opinions on rap!
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Aturaten posted:The first is rap that isn't poo poo. I refuse to believe that what Lil' Wayne puts out is the pinnacle of what it can sound like. I am not a fan of any "black plight" music, nor hos or bitches, or any songs that use the word "nigga/friend of the family" non-sarcastically. Wanting rap that's not about "bitches and hos" is one thing, but what the hell do you have against "black plight"?
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You'd like some People Under The Stairs they just rap about smoking weed and kicking it.
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Aturaten posted:The first is rap that isn't poo poo. I refuse to believe that what Lil' Wayne puts out is the pinnacle of what it can sound like. I am not a fan of any "black plight" music, nor hos or bitches, or any songs that use the word "nigga/friend of the family" non-sarcastically. i recommend you kill yourself PROBATE ME I DONT CARE gently caress THIS GUY (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Way Past Cool! posted:Wanting rap that's not about "bitches and hos" is one thing, but what the hell do you have against "black plight"? Because I've heard it all before. It doesn't interest me; I've grown up in ghettos all my life. I find it mundane and boring. I'm not American, either. I can appreciate Tupac and Biggie Smalls, sure, it's just not the type of music I enjoy.
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I love Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds and Tom Waits, what else could I like?
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Way Past Cool! posted:Wanting rap that's not about "bitches and hos" is one thing, but what the hell do you have against "black plight"? In reply to this and everyone else who has a problem with what he asked: You can actually just not want to hear about something in a music record without necessarily disagreeing with it. More specifically though, the topic of race in hip hop isn't really covered by labelling it descriptive of "black plight". A lot of the stuff 'conscious' rappers like mos def put out is pretentious conspiracy theory nonsense. Then there's the often overtly (or more often implicit) racist, anti white agenda. I don't really blame someone for not wanting to listen to it.
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Aturaten posted:The first is rap that isn't poo poo. I refuse to believe that what Lil' Wayne puts out is the pinnacle of what it can sound like. I am not a fan of any "black plight" music, nor hos or bitches, or any songs that use the word "nigga/friend of the family" non-sarcastically. My guess is that you're looking for someone who raps about gorons and goombas. There's no way you can be even minimally aware of music and not have heard hip hop which is not Lil Wayne, does not talk about hos or bitches, or say any permutation of the N word in excess. Granted saying nigga is pretty common in hip hop lyrics but I find it hard to believe you'll be nodding your head and enjoying something, hear the word "nigga" in a verse somewhere, and then just shut it off in anger. You're on the internet. How have you gone this long without someone telling you "Yeah I only listen to real hip-hop like J5 and Blackalicious"?
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xpistos posted:i recommend you kill yourself PROBATE ME I DONT CARE gently caress THIS GUY I agree - Aturaten fucks up any thread. Stop posting please.
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Twisted Aristocrat posted:In reply to this and everyone else who has a problem with what he asked: What is this "racist, anti white agenda" you're talking about?
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kingcobweb posted:What is this "racist, anti white agenda" you're talking about? Like calling people cracker, for instance.
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Twisted Aristocrat posted:Like calling people cracker, for instance.
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Dongsmith posted:Yeah, when someone says "cracker" in a song it hurts my feelings too :'( That's a pretty stupid thing to say though isn't it, because I'm not saying it's hurting my feelings. I'm saying that in a genre of music that puts such emphasis on lyrical content, if the content is ignorant/pretentious/boring, then it probably isn't worth listening to.
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shut the gently caress up about rap music and recommend me some more Stevie Wonder other then Innvervisions.
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Twisted Aristocrat posted:That's a pretty stupid thing to say though isn't it, because I'm not saying it's hurting my feelings. I'm saying that in a genre of music that puts such emphasis on lyrical content, if the content is ignorant/pretentious/boring, then it probably isn't worth listening to. in a forum which puts so much emphasis on words yours are bad and should not be read (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Songs in the Key of Life Talking Book best two albums, and presonally songs... is in my top five of all time
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Dongsmith posted:Well the requirements you laid out pretty much preclude most rap that has any kind of real cultural or artistic significance. Wrong, De La Soul
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Yoghurt posted:Wrong, De La Soul Well De La Soul kicks rear end. Anymore like this?
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Twisted Aristocrat posted:Like calling people cracker, for instance. How is that racist? It's a term for the race that has been oppressing them for hundreds of years.
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kingcobweb posted:How is that racist? It's a term for the race that has been oppressing them for hundreds of years. If directed at all white people, then yes, it's racist. If they're calling some bigoted hick a cracker, then it's just pejorative.
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