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DivisionPost posted:I'm supposed to say something, right? That really only applies when creating a whole new post. As a reply within a thread, it's perfectly acceptable to report relevant news.
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Buffy without Joss Whedon even attached. wow.
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May 26, 2009 06:33
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This is like when that one studio had the Bond license and made the original Casino Royale film as a comedy. I'm predicting if they go forward this it will be equally as faithful to the original series.
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May 26, 2009 06:47
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Ugh. The one person in Hollywood who COULD execute a reboot of a successful franchise with a huge budget, awesome special effects, and the ability to force people who hadn't previously considered the series into considering going back and watching it, and they're excluding him from the process. Smart.
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May 26, 2009 07:59
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fired up the Facebook protest - Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Boycott The Remake
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May 26, 2009 11:55
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I suspect that, in reality, Fran and Kaz, who seem to have been banking Buffy money for years want to give the public a kick in the rear end and get them buying more Buffy stuff. Going and talking to an exec about it helps raise the profile of the show and the blood pressure of the easily-trolled.
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May 26, 2009 12:16
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Alexandr posted:Ugh. The one person in Hollywood who COULD execute a reboot of a successful franchise with a huge budget, awesome special effects, and the ability to force people who hadn't previously considered the series into considering going back and watching it, and they're excluding him from the process. Smart. "Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Starring Heidi Whatsherface from the Hills" "Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Starring Kristin Bell--" Wait, I might actually watch that one.
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May 26, 2009 13:37
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wow, really? I'd hate to be one of those grognards who dismiss this kind of thing out of hand; in theory a Buffy reboot or "Buffy: The Next Generation" movie or series doesn't have to be a bad idea. But not now, and not without Whedon's involvement or at the very least his approval. Try again in ten or fifteen years.
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May 26, 2009 14:00
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A movie staring Kristen Bell is something I'd definitely be interested in. But I think the major issue with this concept entirely is that Buffy works as a show. Despite the fact that the studio went nuts altering the script and direction, I don't think Buffy works as a movie at ALL. Much in the same way that as much as I liked Serenity, the Firefly universe didn't really work for virgins to the series in the movie, and the show didn't really work all that well as a movie either.
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May 26, 2009 14:17
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After watching S. Darko, I really can't be surprised anymore when I hear about things that should never happen getting the green light. Granted, this doesn't have the green light yet.
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May 26, 2009 14:17
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Gordon Shumway posted:Joss Whedon does not allow couples to be happy unless they are or have become secondary characters (like Riley and Mrs. Riley). Simon and Kaylee are the exception that proves the rule. Simon and Kaylee aren't even an exception. They've been a couple for about thirty seconds of screentime in Serenity. Even Wesley and Fred's Shortest Tragic Relationship Ever lasted longer than that. If there was ever going to be a Serenity 2, River would blast Kaylee out of an airlock and Simon would choke to death on a fig or something.
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May 26, 2009 16:12
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A Big Dark Yak posted:Simon and Kaylee aren't even an exception. They've been a couple for about thirty seconds of screentime in Serenity. Even Wesley and Fred's Shortest Tragic Relationship Ever lasted longer than that. I would hope it's Simon. Dude had excellent near death scenes.
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May 26, 2009 17:10
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Tupping Liberty posted:Buffy without Joss Whedon even attached. wow. Tis blasphemy!!! But, IF Joss were to be involved, I'm 101% on board. I'd recommend they go with a completely different Slayer in a completely different time frame. Set it in Revolutionary France. Wherever. Add a foxy new kick rear end Slayer, a scary villain, some good sets and effects, and a bouncy, funny action script, and I think it might make a 100 mil in box office, and then DVD's. Maybe. This way, the reboot is a clear launch of a mythology, not just Buffy. If it's successful, you've then opened all kinds of doors for more movies, books, tv shows, whatever. All that said, I find this highly unlikely to happen.
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May 29, 2009 01:47
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Gordon Shumway posted:Joss Whedon does not allow couples to be happy unless they are or have become secondary characters (like Riley and Mrs. Riley). Simon and Kaylee are the exception that proves the rule. Can someone tell me why he dose this. I just got into buffy / Angel and the way they deal with sex / relation ships is quite odd. Buffy and Angel have sex and Angel goes bad. Cordelia has sex and she gets pregnant from a demon. Angel has sex and he gets a kid, wtf is up with Joss and sex?
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May 29, 2009 02:05
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He's a pudgy nerdy guy, you figure it out.
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May 29, 2009 02:29
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tripwires posted:Can someone tell me why he dose this. Though Joss is a very talented writer (for the most part), he has a really nasty problem with what I call "betcha" moments. He'll get a bit complacent with characters and pull one of those deaths as a "BETCHA DIDN'T SEE THAT COMING!!" moment in order to shock the audience into paying attention again. What I don't think he gets is that over time, that poo poo gets old.
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May 29, 2009 02:39
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I really hope Angel and Cordelia get together, but I doubt it. I am only on season 3 so im not sure if it happens. I Just finished the episode in season 3 were they go to the ballet, and Joss pointed out in the directors commentary that summer glau was the hot ballet dancer.
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May 29, 2009 02:47
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tripwires posted:Can someone tell me why he dose this. I can fanwank this: He's contrarian in many of his themes and techniques. He "subverts the paradigm" of typical TV show conventions, often. It's what made Buffy, Angel, and Firefly so great. And, basically, relationships in most tv shows are unrealistic, towards the positive. Life is a tragedy, and if everyone else is saying something else, why not tell it like it is?
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May 29, 2009 03:09
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I remember Whedon at one point admitting that he doesn't know how to write happy people, but he's good at writing unhappy people. So as soon as two unhappy people meet up and become happy, something must intervene to make them two unhappy people, like Xander and Anya, or one half of the happy couple must die to make the surviving member of the happy couple really pissed, like with Tara and Willow.
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May 29, 2009 08:33
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thrakkorzog posted:I remember Whedon at one point admitting that he doesn't know how to write happy people, but he's good at writing unhappy people. Well, Xander/Anya and Willow/Tara both lasted for a couple of years before ending in misery, and were generally happy in their relationships. I guess I'd dislike his reliance on the sudden and tragic break-up more if he wasn't so good at writing it. The only example I can think of where it came off as unnatural and weak was the Xander/Anya split.
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May 29, 2009 09:29
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I enjoy it enormously. There's tons of other tv shows, movies, books, etc, where you can find "happy couple lives happily happily ever after". But with Joss, by now, you should know what you're gonna get. So much so that you wait for it to happen. Which will make it excellent when one couple finally escapes the doom.
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May 29, 2009 23:57
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Psimitry posted:A movie staring Kristen Bell is something I'd definitely be interested in. But I think the major issue with this concept entirely is that Buffy works as a show. Despite the fact that the studio went nuts altering the script and direction, I don't think Buffy works as a movie at ALL. Much in the same way that as much as I liked Serenity, the Firefly universe didn't really work for virgins to the series in the movie, and the show didn't really work all that well as a movie either. Just as a note, I know a bunch of people that saw Serenity and liked it enough to watch Firefly. It seems to me that most people that didn't like the movie or thought it was mediocre saw the show first.
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May 30, 2009 00:27
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Superrodan posted:Just as a note, I know a bunch of people that saw Serenity and liked it enough to watch Firefly. Actually, I saw the show first and LOVED the movie. But in my opinion, it only worked as a movie because I had the knowledge of what came before it. I know that there are some people that have been introduced to the show through the movie (one of my closest friends among them), but I personally don't think that the movie stands on its own very well at all.
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Jun 1, 2009 14:06
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I finished Buffy a couple weeks ago and now I'm about half-way through season 3 of Angel. I spent pretty much the whole weekend watching Angel. I'm going to be sad when it ends but I plan on going through both Buffy and Angel again. Now that I've seen it once and have gotten past the excitement of watching something new I can pay more attention to what happens and maybe actually remember it. heh.
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Minimaul posted:I finished Buffy a couple weeks ago and now I'm about half-way through season 3 of Angel. I spent pretty much the whole weekend watching Angel. I'm going to be sad when it ends but I plan on going through both Buffy and Angel again. Now that I've seen it once and have gotten past the excitement of watching something new I can pay more attention to what happens and maybe actually remember it. heh. I wish to issue an apology in advance, for season 4 of Angel. It starts off cool, but very quickly moves into "This is really really bad" territory. It gets better, just soldier on through.
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Jun 1, 2009 21:25
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In counterpoint, I  Season 4 of Angel.
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Aatrek posted:In counterpoint, I Me too. poo poo we got badass Wesley out of it, why is there so much hate?
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Rhyno posted:Me too. poo poo we got badass Wesley out of it, why is there so much hate? It had some lows, we got badass Wesley but we also got Connor/Cordy that was beyond awful. We got (end of season spoiler) Connor punching Jasmine through the head, completely through the head but we also got Connor/Cordy. I don't think I've ever been more annoyed at a situation where an actress gets pregnant and the storyline has to change because of it than Season 4 of Angel.
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Jun 2, 2009 00:12
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Superrodan posted:I wish to issue an apology in advance, for season 4 of Angel. It starts off cool, but very quickly moves into "This is really really bad" territory. It gets better, just soldier on through. Well, I think Season 4 is the best season of Angel, and anyone who doesn't like it simply doesn't get it. There!
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Jun 2, 2009 00:32
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Bunnita posted:I don't think I've ever been more annoyed at a situation where an actress gets pregnant and the storyline has to change because of it than Season 4 of Angel. I thought Joss had said that it was always going to go in that direction, they just sped things up because she got pregnant.
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Gordon Shumway posted:I thought Joss had said that it was always going to go in that direction, they just sped things up because she got pregnant. The way I heard it Jasmine was meant to be a Buffy villain, and Angel was meant to get The First.
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Jun 2, 2009 01:38
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Kojiro posted:The way I heard it Jasmine was meant to be a Buffy villain, and Angel was meant to get The First. I guess that makes more sense given "Amends."
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Jun 2, 2009 02:21
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Kojiro posted:The way I heard it Jasmine was meant to be a Buffy villain, and Angel was meant to get The First. Yeah, Buffy was still going to get Caleb though. The whole point was to the put the two of them together again.
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Jun 2, 2009 02:55
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Kojiro posted:The way I heard it Jasmine was meant to be a Buffy villain, and Angel was meant to get The First. I never heard this before, and it's rockin my world. This would make The First either a fallen Power That Be, or an Imposter? I could see the general plot being roughly the same -- powerful incorporeal being wants a form in order to destroy everyone.
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Jun 2, 2009 03:46
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Kojiro posted:The way I heard it Jasmine was meant to be a Buffy villain, and Angel was meant to get The First. That makes SO much more sense than what we got. Caleb as a priest worshiping Jasmine would have been excellent. And the whole "You and I are going to merge to give me badass power" would have made a lot more sense with two corporeal enemies... merging.
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Jun 2, 2009 04:51
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On the brighter side of Buffy movie news--and yeah, I realize that this is just another one of the jillion "not dead yet" interviews--Anthony Stewart Head said that Ripper might still see the light of day someday.
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Jun 2, 2009 09:11
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Argue posted:On the brighter side of Buffy movie news--and yeah, I realize that this is just another one of the jillion "not dead yet" interviews--Anthony Stewart Head said that Ripper might still see the light of day someday. I would love this more than anything else Buffy related. Tony Head is so awesome when he's playing darkside, to see Ripper come out and play would be such a god damned treat.
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Jun 2, 2009 09:19
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Yesss. I was (still kinda am after reading the link) really worried about this going into development hell. But it would just be too awesome. Carrot Wheel fucked around with this message at 09:50 on Jun 2, 2009 |
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Argue posted:On the brighter side of Buffy movie news--and yeah, I realize that this is just another one of the jillion "not dead yet" interviews--Anthony Stewart Head said that Ripper might still see the light of day someday. Head says that Ripper is still going to happen in every interview he gives.
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So, I've loved Firefly for a while now, and finally decided to bite the bullet and try a different Joss show. I bought seasons 1 and 2 of Buffy last night. Does this show take a while to get into, because I'm a few episodes into season one and it's pretty dull so far.
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