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Can we talk about kick drums? I feel like I can't really get mine to sound great... I'm just using some wav samples and Ableton's built-in EQ and compressor, and I can get it to sound okay but I'm never like "drat, that's a kick drum." I'd love any tips, recommendations for sample libraries, or links to good material about mixing/creating kick drums for dance music.
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stun runner posted:Can we talk about kick drums? Get any of the "Vengeance Essential Clubsounds" sample CDs and you should be sorted. http://www.vengeance-sound.de
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Sep 9, 2009 22:09
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stun runner posted:Can we talk about kick drums? http://www.soundstosample.com/info/Simplosive/Deep_Kicks/177 http://www.soundstosample.com/info/Simplosive/Hard_Kicks/223 I like them.
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Sep 9, 2009 22:14
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Ya it really is loving tough to build that really clean yet heavy, punchy and just subby enough. Its a craft. Sometimes you just gotta use a sample.
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Sep 9, 2009 23:41
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ManoliIsFat posted:Ya it really is loving tough to build that really clean yet heavy, punchy and just subby enough. Its a craft. Sometimes you just gotta use a sample. Yeah kicks are the hardest thing to get right, you gotta sit there layering things and adjusting pitch/release. You really gotta be in the mood to deal with it.
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Sep 9, 2009 23:45
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My music poo poo started working again so I made a little track to celebrate. 
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Sep 10, 2009 02:41
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I steal kicks from progressive house songs. It's not helpful if you want a really punchy electro-house kick, but for just a big quick kick to throw into a song they are cool.
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Sep 10, 2009 06:07
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Oookay. Really helpful thread for someone starting out. Just for clarification, the VSTi suggestion means playing with sounds like in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcMtxpUAKcQ correct? And should I just be watching these general tutorial videos to get an idea of what all these knobs do, or should I get into some research about what each knob does to the sound? I guess my primary goal is to learn how to make my own sounds, not just mash together a bunch of samples and end up with a corny sounding mix. edit: I'm using Ableton live btw Justin Timberwolf fucked around with this message at 08:16 on Sep 10, 2009 |
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Sep 10, 2009 08:12
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KaosPV posted:The thing is that, when I repitch vocal samples, they sound like monster growlings, slow and unnatural, instead of deep and groovy like those ones. You're trying to re-pitch them with an algorithm that just stretches. You need something that re-pitches but keeps the same speed right? Some DAWs can do this, some samplers can do this, I believe "the amazing slow downer" can do this. You can do this with quite well with Melodyne or Autotune. They all have slightly different ways of going about it and slightly different overheads and artifacts that get introduced, so look around until you find what you're after.
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Sep 10, 2009 08:48
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Lysis posted:Oookay. Really helpful thread for someone starting out. That's not a VSTi, it's Ableton's sampler. You can read the manual to get an idea of how it works, and then watch tutorials in youtube to get new ideas. There's an Ableton thread in this subforum, check it out. quote:You're trying to re-pitch them with an algorithm that just stretches. You need something that re-pitches but keeps the same speed right? Some DAWs can do this, some samplers can do this, I believe "the amazing slow downer" can do this. You can do this with quite well with Melodyne or Autotune. Yeah, I'm thinking of buying Melodyne, maybe it's useful to get the effect I want, but I don't know anyone who owns it to ask him...
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Sep 10, 2009 10:10
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Lysis posted:And should I just be watching these general tutorial videos to get an idea of what all these knobs do, or should I get into some research about what each knob does to the sound? Read http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2974992&pagenumber=1 - the word "Cutoff", for instance, means the same for several synths and samplers so what you learn there is directly applicable in other plugins.
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Sep 10, 2009 13:31
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stun runner posted:Can we talk about kick drums? Maybe you should post a song that has a kick that you think is awesome. Not everyone has the same opinion!
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KaosPV posted:That's not a VSTi, it's Ableton's sampler. You can read the manual to get an idea of how it works, and then watch tutorials in youtube to get new ideas. Ohh, okay I get it now, thanks a lot.  Don't know how I missed that Ableton thread.
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stun runner posted:Can we talk about kick drums? Also, remember to let the sound system do the heavy lifting. A kick can sound kind of lackluster on your monitors and still bang like hell in the club.
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Sep 10, 2009 20:17
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OMGWTFAOLBBQ posted:I use these.
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Here is a one minute video of our band Robo-Dali. I am the singer/guitarist, other keyboardist, and I play robotronic for the first 25 seconds. My chain is URS Strip pro, a tad bit of overdrive via guitar rig 3, one send sent to Aether reverb or wizoo verb. On guitar I use Amplitube Xgear, guitar rig3, Amplitube Fender, Aether reverb and another UrS strip set to tape emu at 30ips. I want nebulae 3. The keyboardist uses a midi controller, roland jx305, 808 sampler, and a triton le with sample exp board. The bassist is Ampeg svt and a peavey bass that looks like and weighs like warwick copy basically. Sounds nice. Drummer has a pearl mlx set from the 80s I think with 10 cymbals/overkill. he is about to buy a drum pad after the show tomorrow with the proceeds. I never posted any music so I better put my money where my mouth is. Best sounding cellphone video every thanks nokia n95. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQlUJhxWkcU Its one minute only. All I could get my friend to get. Thanks for any comments. Rkelly fucked around with this message at 07:16 on Sep 11, 2009 |
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Rkelly posted:Here is a one minute video of our band Robo-Dali. I am the singer/guitarist, other keyboardist, and I play robotronic for the first 25 seconds. My chain is URS Strip pro, a tad bit of overdrive via guitar rig 3, one send sent to Aether reverb or wizoo verb. On guitar I use Amplitube Xgear, guitar rig3, Amplitube Fender, Aether reverb and another UrS strip set to tape emu at 30ips. I want nebulae 3. Got any recordings of this? I am intrigued.
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so what's the cheapest way to get monitors? i'm broke but my computer speakers are poo poo and i don't even know what my sounds sound like on a real system!
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Quincy Smallvoice posted:Got any recordings of this? I am intrigued. We are going into the studio in Nashville sometime soon. I haven't got any sounds I like out of my pair of beta 57s and couple LDCs and a couple sennheiser cardoids. We should be able to get a good sound. I have a huge 3 story house we use as a studio with 16 foot ceilings and some 40 foot long rooms for drums and some ambient mics on the far end. I am ok with software and DAW's. I need real world experience with getting good sounds with an engineer helping me with feedback. Or really I would like to just watch a pro work for while. By Christmas we should have a full length. So far that cell phone video is all we got. We are playing the basement and next big nashville soon so I will let you know if your interested and in the area. Since this is about electronic music. The softsynths I use live are Oddity, Tone 2 Gladiator, and sylenth. I just bought omnisphere a month or so ago. I have yet to integrate it. Omni has the best samples of minimoog basses and moog modular basses and many other vintage synths. I use pulse waves from a prophet 5 in omnisphere. Very satisfying. Gladiator from Tone 2 is my favorite softsynth in the world. Rkelly fucked around with this message at 18:40 on Sep 11, 2009 |
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Sep 11, 2009 17:16
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OMGWTFAOLBBQ posted:I'm going to bring these up again because I really think they're the poo poo. Listen to the little demo, these kicks are huge. They make the vengeance kicks sound weak.
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Sep 11, 2009 17:52
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Meatsplosion posted:Demos sound dope, gonna pick these up on payday fo sho. I own electro essentials 1 and 2. I also got an effects samples cd from them that rules rear end. They are really useful. Just don't slam them with compression. They have a fair amount on them already.
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Sep 11, 2009 18:36
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OMGWTFAOLBBQ posted:I'm going to bring these up again because I really think they're the poo poo. Listen to the little demo, these kicks are huge. They make the vengeance kicks sound weak. I wouldn't say that the Vengeance kicks are weak, but the problem is that most of them sound like they've been sampled straight off existing records. A lot of them off the Clubsounds discs have reverb tails which cut off suddenly, or other percussion hits overlaid, which effectively make them useless. If I were to recommend any sample CDs, I'd suggest the Thomas Penton sample collections. I've only got volumes 1&2, but I find them to be far more usable than Vengeance.
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moron posted:If I were to recommend any sample CDs, I'd suggest the Thomas Penton sample collections. I agree with this 100%, I've always found the vengeance samples useless for making them my own with effects, not sure if this is because they are overcompressed or due to reverb but Thomas Penton samples are great, they're always my go-to samples.
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cuppy tea posted:I agree with this 100%, I've always found the vengeance samples useless for making them my own with effects, not sure if this is because they are overcompressed or due to reverb but Thomas Penton samples are great, they're always my go-to samples. I am gonna have to check these out. I agree with the overcompression and not quite subtle use of reverb on electro essentials. Not all sounds are like that though. It's cheap rips of mp3's sometimes I think.
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Calling all Logic users - I have some questions. Can someone tell me the keyboard shortcuts for the following commands.... Enable/Disable looping - so, i can select a loop region, then press a key to enable/disable it. Un-solo/un-mute all. I've looked around the documentation, and can't find anything like this in there. Is it even possible?!
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moron posted:Calling all Logic users - I have some questions. Can someone tell me the keyboard shortcuts for the following commands.... Select the section and hit L to turn off looping Select the section and hit S to solo
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moron posted:Calling all Logic users - I have some questions. Can someone tell me the keyboard shortcuts for the following commands.... My book says "Command-click Track Mute button" for un-mute all so I'm guessing there's no key. 'S' and 'M' toggle solo and mute but I don't see anything to un-solo or un-mute everything automatically. edit: Just tested. CMD+click on a muted track will unmute all and ALT-click on a soloed track will unsolo all. That's pretty stupid that the modifier is different for those two. JGTheSpy fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Sep 13, 2009 |
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Ok, so it's fan-loving-tastic that someone started this thread. Just wish I had actually read it sooner. Anyways I'm gonna re-read the OP a couple of times and sort of compile a list of poo poo I still have questions about. Kudos to everyone who has contributed to this thread. Electronic music is proof that god loves me.
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So Daniel Haaksman is doing a remix contest of his song Kid Conga. Typically I procrastinate on it till the day before it's due. Here's my entry - http://tindeck.com/listen/nuct I'm without monitors at the moment so I mixed everything the best I could. Any comments before I submit it? Altoidss fucked around with this message at 07:21 on Sep 16, 2009 |
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Altoidss posted:So Daniel Haaksman is doing a remix contest of his song Kid Conga. Typically I procrastinate on it till the day before it's due. It sounds really good, everything nice, clean and where it should be. Its not that interesting however.
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Edit, lemme get this straight. Re-wire is strictly to use another applications synths in your preferred daw, correct? Nvm I got this bastard doing what I want RizieN fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Sep 14, 2009 |
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Heres my kid conga remix. i think its bangin and am about to submit but if anyone has any criticisms let me know!
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Just a fyi remix competitions generally suck. Don't ever get your hopes up. I've had a few that I've had a serious shot at, and some pretty god drat mediocre track wins. That said, gl to both of you, but yeah don't get your hopes up.
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it was fun remixing it and i have one more track to add to the live show so its all good
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So I inherited some gear from my brother, I've been meaning to get into doing some of this stuff for ages, and now I finally can! And some old vintage looking effects rack where no one knows where it came from. I don't really know what I'm going to do with it actually  Expect to hear some stuff soon, no matter how bad it is!
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screaden posted:And some old vintage looking effects rack where no one knows where it came from. I don't really know what I'm going to do with it actually You totally have to use this.
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Handclaps... how do I make the perfect handclaps? I'm sick of using pre-made ones and I just want to make my own now. I want it very snappy and with a lot of high end. It's okay if they don't sound real. I've been trying to find resources on this online and I haven't been able to find much.
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Anyone got a link to the mibbit entrance to the ML irc room / does anyone still chill there? Had that bookmarked ages ago but lost it somehow.
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awdio posted:Handclaps... how do I make the perfect handclaps? I'm sick of using pre-made ones and I just want to make my own now. I want it very snappy and with a lot of high end. It's okay if they don't sound real. I've been trying to find resources on this online and I haven't been able to find much. 808 clap sounds exactly what you are describing. disco and funk has great claps to sample and they are in a ton of songs(carwash comes to mind)
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oredun posted:808 clap sounds exactly what you are describing. disco and funk has great claps to sample and they are in a ton of songs(carwash comes to mind) I'm not interested in sampling. I just want to make them.
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