Dad posted:

Your U.S. House & Senate have voted themselves $4,700 and $5,300 raises.
They voted to not give you a S.S. Cost of living raise in 2010 and 2011.
Your Medicaid premiums will go up $285.60 for the 2-years and
You will not get the 3% COLA: $660/yr. Your total 2-yr loss and cost is
-$1,600 or -$3,200 for husband and wife.
Over 2-yrs they ea. Get $10,000
Will they have your cost of drugs - doctor fees - local taxes - food, etc.., increase?
NO WAY. They have a raise and better benefits. Why care about you? You never did anything about it in the past.
Do you really think that Nancy, Harry, Chris, Charlie, Barnie, et al, care about you? SEND THE MESSAGE-- You're FIRED.


CHANCE TO GET RID OF THE SITTING CONGRESS:
Up to 1/3 OF THE SENATE, AND 100% OF THE HOUSE.

MAKE SURE YOU'RE STILL MAD IN NOVEMBER 2010

It is ok to forward this to your sphere of influence if you're finally tired of the abuse.

Son posted:

Allow me to make some corrections:

The $4700 pay raise for 2009 was voted on by the 110th congress which ended in January 2009.

The 2010 pay raise was voted down by the 111th congress in February of 2009, and their term does not end until January 2011.

If you are mad about the pay raise, you should vote for the incumbents of the 111th congress, who are up for re-election in 2010.

Strudel Man posted:

I don't see what it has to do with fascism other than the fact that it both involves government authority and is bad.

quote:

And it's not even that bad in all cases, we have a system very similar for car insurance that more or less works.

quote:

Federal Judge Carter sets Trial Date for Obama's Eligibility!

The expedited trial has been set for Jan. 26, 2010!

Many concerned veterans and citizens attended the hearing in Federal Court in Santa Ana in the lawsuit against Barack Obama to determine his eligibility to be President and Commander in Chief. About 150 people showed up, almost all in support of the lawsuit to demand that Obama release his birth certificate and other records that he has hidden from the American people.

Judge David Carter refused to hear Obama's request for dismissal. He indicated there was almost no chance that this case would be dismissed. Obama is arguing this lawsuit was filed in the wrong court if you can believe that. Obama would prefer a "kangaroo court" instead of a Federal court! Assuming Judge Carter denies Obama's motion for dismissal, he will likely then order expedited discovery which will force Obama to release his birth certificate in a timely manner (if he has one).

The judge, WHO IS A FORMER U.S. MARINE, repeated several times that this is A VERY SERIOUS CASE which must be resolved quickly so that the troops know
that their Commander in Chief is eligible to hold that position and issue lawful orders to our military in this time of war. He basically said OBAMA MUST PROVE HIS ELIGIBILITY to the court! He said Americans deserve to know the truth about their President!

The two U.S. Attorneys representing Barack Obama tried everything they could to sway the judge that this case was frivolous, but Carter would have none of it and cut them off several times. Obama's attorneys left the courtroom after about the 90 minute hearing looking defeated and nervous.

Great day in America for the U.S. Constitution! The truth about Barack Obama's eligibility will be known fairly soon - Judge Carter practically guaranteed it!

RagnarokAngel posted:

Hey there's no link to a news story BUT HE'S A MARINE. OORAH.

quote:

'Birthers' lawsuit challenging Obama's election is dismissed
October 29, 2009 | 12:05 pm
The “birthers” lose, again.

This morning, a U.S. District Court Judge in Santa Ana dismissed a federal lawsuit challenging President Obama’s election on the grounds he wasn’t born in the U.S.
In his opinion, Judge David O. Carter stated that it is not within the constitutional power of the federal courts to “overthrow a sitting president.”

The case, brought forward by California attorney Orly Taitz, a leader of the so-called “birther” movement, claims that Obama doesn’t meet the constitutional qualifications to be president because he has not shown he is a “natural born citizen” of the U.S.

Obama has produced a birth certificate from Hawaii, but Taitz claims there is evidence he was born in Kenya.

This case has failed to advance beyond several lower courts. Taitz was also fined $20,000 on Oct. 13 by a federal judge in Columbus, Georgia in part because Taitz had used the legal system to pursue “political rhetoric and insults,” the judge in that case stated.

In the most recent case, Carter wrote in his opinion how “plaintiffs have attacked” anyone who has dismissed their claim as “unpatriotic and even treasonous.”

“Respecting the constitutional role and jurisdiction of this court is not unpatriotic," he said. "Quite the contrary, this Court considers commitment to that constitutional role to be the ultimate reflection of patriotism.”

NecroBob posted:

This same Marine?

Tape Speed posted:

Dirigisme but with competing private interests instead of monolithic nationalized industry is the core of fascism? I don't see how you can say it's not similar unless you lack even an elementary understanding of fascism.

RagnarokAngel posted:

It's really painful how the Birther mentality lets them keep at it. No matter what evidence you present that he's a US citizen "well I have this other evidence...".
If you shut them down because it's a waste of time they will argue that you are suppressing the truth. They basically cannot "lose".

JohnClark posted:

I saw this one the other day, and aside from the general stupidity of it, the one that jumped out at me was the "57 states of Islam". What does that even mean? And how can they include the suggestion the he's a cryptomuslim while simulatenously critizing his attendance of a christian church?

Vivian Darkbloom posted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBSSLHc0Krk

dun dun dun!

Grandma posted:

HOW DID THIS HAPPEN?













And finally
The most perplexing of all....

freebooter posted:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_majority_countries

There are 48.

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

Stupid poo poo

quote:

Who elected Obama?

_{The statistics listed below are immensely sobering. I do think our country is making immense changes from what I have know it to be. We are guided by a limited democracy majority vote and that, of course, will determine our future.}

"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.â€Â�
_{George Orwell}

Subject: Who elected Obama?
THIS WILL CURDLE YOUR BLOOD & BREAK YOUR HEART



Interesting Statistic
Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St.. Paul , Minnesota , points out facts of 2008 Presidential election:

Number of States won by:
Democrats: 19
Republicans: 29

Square miles of land won by:
Democrats: 580,000
Republicans: 2,427,000

Population of counties won by:
Democrats: 127 million
Republicans: 143 million

Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by:
Democrats: 13.2
Republicans: 2.1

Professor Olson adds:
"In aggregate, the map of the territory Republican won by Republicans was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of the country.

Democrat territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government welfare.

Professor Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the "complacency and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population already having reached the "governmental dependency" phase.

If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal invaders called illegals and they vote, then we can say goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years.

Pass this along to help everyone realize just how much is at stake, knowing that apathy is the greatest danger to our freedom

quazi posted:

Just got this from my dad, who seems to be similar to nearly everyone else's dad:

Zwabu posted:

They've been running some variant of this since 2000 or so.

Bottom line?: Land doesn't vote.

quazi posted:

Just got this from my dad, who seems to be similar to nearly everyone else's dad:

evilweasel posted:

Send him this: http://www.factcheck.org/2009/01/unreported-stats/

Long story short: the guy didn't write it, and every single number is wrong

Fiskiggy posted:

but real nice to see someone in 2009 subtly hint that voting should be linked to land ownership.

quote:

Subject: FW: Craig's List AD


AN ACTUAL CRAIG'S LIST PERSONALS AD

To the Guy Who Tried to Mug Me in Downtown Savannah night before last.

Date: 2009-05-27, 1:43 a.m. E.S.T.

I was the guy wearing the black Burberry jacket that you demanded that I hand over, shortly after you pulled the knife on me and my girlfriend, threatening our lives. You also asked for my girlfriend's purse and earrings. I can only hope that you somehow come across this rather important message.

First, I'd like to apologize for your embarrassment; I didn't expect you to actually crap in your pants when I drew my pistol after you took my jacket. The evening was not that cold, and I was wearing the jacket for a reason. My girlfriend had just bought me that Kimber Model 1911 .45 ACP pistol for my birthday, and we had picked up a shoulder holster for it that very evening. Obviously you agree that it is a very intimidating weapon when pointed at your head ... isn't it?!

I know it probably wasn't fun walking back to wherever you'd come from with that brown sludge in your pants. I'm sure it was even worse walking bare-footed since I made you leave your shoes, cell phone, and wallet with me. [That prevented you from calling or running to your buddies to come help mug us again].

After I called your mother or "Momma" as you had her listed in your cell, I explained the entire episode of what you'd done. Then I went and filled up my gas tank as well as those of four other people in the gas station, -- on your credit card. The guy with the big motor home took 150 gallons and was extremely grateful!

I gave your shoes to a homeless guy outside Vinnie Van Go Go's, along with all the cash in your wallet. [That made his day!]

I then threw your wallet into the big pink "pimp mobile" that was parked at the curb ... after I broke the windshield and side window and keyed the entire driver's side of the car.

Later, I called a bunch of phone sex numbers from your cell phone. Ma Bell just now shut down the line, although I only used the phone for a little over a day now, so what 's going on with that? Earlier, I managed to get in two threatening phone calls to the DA's office and one to the FBI, while mentioning President Obama as my possible target.

The FBI guy seemed really intense and we had a nice long chat (I guess while he traced your number etc.).

In a way, perhaps I should apologize for not killing you ... but I feel this type of retribution is a far more appropriate punishment for your threatened crime. I wish you well as you try to sort through some of these rather immediate pressing issues, and can only hope that you have the opportunity to reflect upon, and perhaps reconsider, the career path you've chosen to pursue in life. Remember, next time you might not be so lucky. Have a good day!

Thoughtfully yours,

Alex

P.S. Remember this motto ... An armed society makes for a more civil society!

thegreatcodfish posted:

I really need to leave this church, but I fear what I may find in other churches in the area...

thegreatcodfish posted:

Oh hey look, another from my pastor! I've seen this before, but they thought to include Obama for this round of FWD: FWD: FWD: Very Funny


I really need to leave this church, but I fear what I may find in other churches in the area...

evilweasel posted:

Send him this: http://www.factcheck.org/2009/01/unreported-stats/

Long story short: the guy didn't write it, and every single number is wrong

thegreatcodfish posted:

Oh hey look, another from my pastor! I've seen this before, but they thought to include Obama for this round of FWD: FWD: FWD: Very Funny


I really need to leave this church, but I fear what I may find in other churches in the area...

Dr. Tough posted:

I love that the guy in email's response to getting almost robbed was to commit armed robbery himself. Plus burglary and criminal damage on some poor guy's car (a car he assumed belonged to the robber but had no proof). Plus all the telephone crap. Great stuff.

Zwabu posted:

There is another option. (j/k)

quote:

I love that the guy in email's response to getting almost robbed was to commit armed robbery himself. Plus burglary and criminal damage on some poor guy's car (a car he assumed belonged to the robber but had no proof). Plus all the telephone crap. Great stuff.

Dr. Tough posted:

I love that the guy in email's response to getting almost robbed was to commit armed robbery himself. Plus burglary and criminal damage on some poor guy's car (a car he assumed belonged to the robber but had no proof). Plus all the telephone crap. Great stuff.

Strudel Man posted:

On the bright side, there's very little chance that it's true. It smacks of an elaborate fantasy revenge scenario.

Gripen5 posted:

* Threatening the President of the United States (A very serious crime. I didn't want to do a Google search so that I would end up on some list, but its probably a felony)

quote:

Once There Was A Great Nation!

It was founded by the pilgrims who decided to leave their own country, which didn't encourage freedom of religion, freedom of speech, and freedom of the individual. So they migrated to an uncivilized land inhabited only by savages. The rock where they landed was to become a national shrine - and one of the most famous monuments in the world.

They drove off the natives, built rude shelters and houses of worship, meanwhile setting aside a special day to give thanks.

These pilgrims - all stern, austere men - believed in their God, but they also believed in work. They established schools under religious leaders that, in a way, became the first public, free education in the world.

Through hard, determined labor they forged a colony while the rest of the world chuckled.

But the pilgrims persevered. Intolerant of wrongdoing, they used gallows to punish criminals. In their day-to-day activities they had no patience for the weak and degenerate, who, if pampered, become the cancer of a nation.

Shortly, these pilgrims engaged in trade and commerce as their community grew. In the process, they became moderately prosperous.

Other colonists came and established other communities. And some of the noblest words ever written began to surface. Facades of our modern government buildings bear some of the legends written back then: "liberty," "justice," "freedom of worship.

Then one of the older nations sent tax agents to exploit the colonists. Alarmed, the colonists sent their greatest men as representatives to a general assembly, choosing a gentleman farmer as their leader. He united them and shook off the shackles of oppression as they won the fight against the "old world" and became a strong nation. That farmer is known as the "father of his country." Today, a famous U.S. city is named after him.

The new nation formed two houses of government. The more powerful was the Senate, whose members could be elected only if they were men of probity [integrity], honor, patriotism, and religion. The nation became a republic, though it is a republic no longer.

Ultimately, a civil war divided the fledgling country. Its leader, who tried to keep the republic united, was assassinated in the shadow of government buildings.

Eventually, many of the nations senators became ambitious for power. They began to make deals with leaders of important factions.

And the republic now became entangled in alliances with foreign nations. The alliances brought wars; the wars brought taxes. But the citizens didn't seem to mind. War, after all, also increased trade and industry. And, besides, the new taxes affected only the rich.

Farmers rebelled, sending petitions for subsidies, price supports. Government, wanting support for its own schemes, bought up the surplus crops and stored them in warehouses, where they rotted. Not to be outdone, industrialists were next to ask for tax benefits.

Finally, the government became all powerful. It guaranteed to protect the people from all forces of nature. And taxation grew and grew. Bureaucracy thrived as free housing, fiee food, free entertainment came next. The middle class declined under the added tax burdens. Crime became so commonplace that it was dangerous to walk the streets at night.

A crippled man led the nation into more wars and foreign entanglements. Patriots became known as radicals.

A general, who had been victimized by the government, pleaded with the nation to remember her past, to return to honor, to decent government, to the principles ofthe founding fathers. The people scoffed, and he died, bitterly thinking his anguished thoughts.

An honest senator dared to speak out for a halt to foreign subversion and to constant foreign aid and draining away from the people's money. The public at large recoiled, branding him a reactionary.

The nation fell deeper into debt. It joined a league of the world with enemies that exploited her. She increased taxes to send her wheat to those enemies. And she devalued her currency, substituting base materials for precious metals in her coins.

She became allied with powerful barbarians in still another stupid war. She sent "experts" to school the barbarians in the latest scientific discoveries.

The nation was now totally corrupt. Its middle class was finally dead. The barbarians moved in... and took over. And they destroyed the civilizations. That nation's name?











Ancient Rome.

Identification notes:

The pilgrim's rock - Foundation of the Temple of Jupiter
The gentleman farmer - Cincinatus
The assassinated leader - Julius Caesar
The general - Marc Anthony
The honest senator - Cicero
Author unknown

Drop The Bomb posted:

Rome

Drop The Bomb posted:

Plom Bar posted:

I'm not 100% up on my American history/current events. Who's the victimized general's modern day equivalent? And is the honest senator meant to be John Kerry?

NecroBob posted:

I've tried reading that from a pro-fundamentalist point of view, an anti-fundamentalist POV, a "patriot"'s POV, and a "blame-America-first"er POV. No matter how you read it, that whole little allegory is utterly pointless and doesn't really support any of them.

NecroBob posted:

I've tried reading that from a pro-fundamentalist point of view, an anti-fundamentalist POV, a "patriot"'s POV, and a "blame-America-first"er POV. No matter how you read it, that whole little allegory is utterly pointless and doesn't really support any of them.

quote:

An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before,
but had once failed an entire class.

--------------------------------------------

That class had insisted that Obama's socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.


The professor then said, "OK,
we will have an experiment in this class on Obama's plan".


All grades would be averaged and everyone would receive the same grade so no one would fail and no one would receive an A.


After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B.
The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy.


As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little.
The second test average was a D!
No one was happy.


When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F.

The scores never increased as bickering,
blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else.


All failed, to their great surprise, and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed.


Could not be any simpler than that.

(Please pass this on)