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Zophar posted:Art is entertainment. It can be (and tends to be) but there are plenty of artists who give nary a poo poo nor a gently caress if the audience is entertained. Just because somebody doesn't worship this broad's every move it doesn't mean that person has a stick up his or her rear end.
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Happy Hippo posted:It can be (and tends to be) but there are plenty of artists who give nary a poo poo nor a gently caress if the audience is entertained. Just because somebody doesn't worship this broad's every move it doesn't mean that person has a stick up his or her rear end. I wasn't the one criticizing you, but your first point is faulty because typically the creator of a work doesn't have the final word on if what they produce is art (or entertainment) or not. Art, it's influence, it's effect and it's value is ultimately decided by the consumer.
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1. Dance In The Dark 2. Just Dance 3. Beautiful, Dirty, Rich 4. LoveGame 5. Boys, Boys, Boys 6. Alejandro 7. Monster 8. So Happy I Could Die 9. Teeth 10. Poker Face/Make Her Say 11. Speechless 12. Fashion 13. The Fame 14. UNIDENTIFIED NEW SONG 15. Money Honey 16. Paper Gangsta 17. Poker Face 18. Paparazzi 19. Eh, Eh (Nothing Else I Can Say) 20. Bad Romance A good line-up but I think it's kinda bloated for an artist who only has 1 LP and 1 EP. She could easily cut So Happy, Boys, Money Honey, and Paper Gangsta and no one would notice. WTF is I Like It Rough?
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Nov 28, 2009 06:22
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Doctor Claw posted:WTF is I Like It Rough? How dare you. I'm listening to this right now. I like it. It's off The Fame.
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Nov 28, 2009 06:42
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Triple Tech posted:How dare you. I'm listening to this right now. I like it. It's off The Fame. He meant where is it, wasn't on the setlist.
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Nov 28, 2009 08:02
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Doctor Claw posted:She could easily cut So Happy, Boys, Money Honey, and Paper Gangsta and no one would notice. WTF is I Like It Rough? I swear to god, every time I head Paper Gangsta, all I can hear is the drat Venga Bus song she sampled.
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Nov 28, 2009 08:13
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Zophar posted:Art is entertainment.  Didn't Bowie and the vanguard of glam prove this point as wrong though? Glam rock was the antithesis of hippy rock, equally talented people wanting to break the norm. Though yes, pop is based on what came before it trying to push the envelope. I do agree that Gaga includes a ton of irony in her performances, which is why I'm still trying to figure out what exactly it is she's trying to do with her music. She's reached superstardom nearly instantaneously, but she has a winning algorithm for her music... I guess I'm just gonna have to wait and watch.
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Nov 28, 2009 09:20
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Doctor Claw posted:So Happy Psh, that's one of her best songs. I listen to it way too much.
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Nov 28, 2009 09:25
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Backweb posted:
She's not a superstar yet, but her act is very dependent on you believing she's a real superstar. Maybe that is the point?
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LuckySevens posted:She's not a superstar yet, but her act is very dependent on you believing she's a real superstar. Maybe that is the point? You know, that's a very good point that I may have been missing here. What really makes one a superstar or a megastar? I know the Japanese are involved...
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Nov 28, 2009 14:40
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Legato posted:After reading the thread from beginning to end it's pretty funny to see how the thread has mirrored everyone's conversion from disgust/laughing at Lady GaGa to honest appreciation. I think it's a natural progression from hearing one single, especially if it's a dance-style single like (hurr) Just Dance and writing her off as a clone of every other dance-pop singer, then hearing the various glam-rock/disco/etc. influences in a lot of her stuff, maybe catching a glimpse of her in a full-body red lace wrap while accepting an award and going "hey, wait a minute, maybe there's something to this Lady Gaga thing."
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Doctor Claw posted:Setlist. I cannot wait for that show. No Again Again or Summerboy though.
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Doctor Claw posted:A good line-up but I think it's kinda bloated for an artist who only has 1 LP and 1 EP. Not really, considering that she remixes a lot of her songs into different versions live and a lot of them probably flow into each other as medleys.
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Nov 28, 2009 19:00
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Oh gently caress I just realized Poker Face/Make Her Say is gonna be the Kid Cudi song. Shiiiiiittttttt.
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Nov 28, 2009 19:14
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Tomorrrowwww niiight   Also, it somehow turned into a first date with the girl I'm going with... Oh snap.
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Nov 28, 2009 19:59
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7lip posted:Tomorrrowwww niiight Someone's gonna get laid!
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Nov 29, 2009 00:20
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Thornes posted:Someone's gonna get laid! Yeah Lady Gaga probably...
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The Remote Viewer posted:Yeah Lady Gaga probably... I'll try my best, If I succeed I'll put to rest the "Gags has a cock" rumour. I must admit I prefer it to be false but, I'll let you guys know.
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Nov 29, 2009 01:51
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Does anyone know where I could find this image? I want it for an SA avatar. It's the shot that lasts for like two seconds in Bad Romance, similar to this picture: but the shot before it, right when her robe falls, and her arms are out at her sides. God I love that shot.
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Nov 29, 2009 02:37
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Backweb posted:You know, that's a very good point that I may have been missing here. What really makes one a superstar or a megastar? I know the Japanese are involved... I would say superstar status is when you can headline a tour of country X and sell out the main concert venues.
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Nov 29, 2009 02:47
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Advice posted:Does anyone know where I could find this image? I want it for an SA avatar. It's the shot that lasts for like two seconds in Bad Romance, similar to this picture:  Here is it more square and in gagatar form: 
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"Ugh I'm so sick of everyone talking about this tramp, what's the big deal anyway? Well, I can't really knock it without actually listening to it..." ♫ The boy is a monsteeeerrrrrr! ♫ "FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK" ...and that's how it started.
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:You mean this one? Amazing! Thank you.
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Free Market Gravy posted:I think it's a natural progression from hearing one single, especially if it's a dance-style single like (hurr) Just Dance and writing her off as a clone of every other dance-pop singer, then hearing the various glam-rock/disco/etc. influences in a lot of her stuff, maybe catching a glimpse of her in a full-body red lace wrap while accepting an award and going "hey, wait a minute, maybe there's something to this Lady Gaga thing." Yeah the turning point for me was her SNL performance. I almost did a double take. Wait she's talented? What is THIS!?
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I've searched and searched for more information, but sadly have found nothing. I realize they will be "pressing uncensored versions soon" or whatever, but when a record company says that...what is a realistic timeline? I figured I'd chalk this up to having the dark hair cover/censored version, along with the triangle blonde wig/uncensored version (hurrr collectin' time)...but I don't know how long I can wait. ;_; D'you think she'll be changing up her set list as the tour goes on? I'm hoping it might evolve once I get to see her on Dec. 29.
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She's a goon, basically. Lady Gaga's interview on Ellen, wherein she reveals her motivation for her appearance/fashion (to provide a space for those who similarly did not "fit in").
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I just got the new spin, and they debunk music myths, one of which being "Lady Gaga is talentless." It's pretty much the longest blurb in the article, and phenominally written for people who don't "get it," but when I tried to explain it to my coworkers, they still thought I was weird or gay. I love Lady Gaga. If she has a penis, I'll suck it. I don't care, man. edit: here it is quote:MYTH No. 3: Lady Gaga Is All Style, No Substance Sockser fucked around with this message at 09:41 on Nov 29, 2009 |
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That is an excellent summation, especially since I'm less able to suss out Gaga's musical thought process as opposed to her visual one. It's going in my mega-gagapost So that this isn't entirely contentless, if you haven't watched "The Fame: Part One" (which is where I first heard it), "Fooled Me Again, Honest Eyes" is an excellent song which I believe she's only done live. Love the part when she plays the piano with her foot, and the end where she goes all Ray Charles. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIeCrj_Gn6A I would love it if she did an entire piano album
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Nov 29, 2009 10:07
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Just for clarification, is the iTunes version of Bad Romance censored?
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I put my clan tag to [GAGA] on Modern Warfare 2. Apparently it pisses people off when they lose to a Lady GaGa fan.
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I'm not a huge fan of Lady Gaga's music, but the fact that she ordered pizza for all her fans makes her an awesome person in my eyes. You have to admire someone who genuinely appreciates their fans, instead of being aloof and dismissive towards them (except when it comes to taking their money).
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Nov 29, 2009 18:32
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saw her last night at the ACC. i was there mostly for cudi but gott drat gaga put on a very inventive performance. it dragged a bit in the middle but i drank so all was right.
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lady gaga owns I got hooked when I first heard Just Dance on the radio. It had a happy feel to it and I'm all for feelin' good. Then I heard Paparazzi--the chorus is when I went FUUUUUUUUCK. I've told everyone I think she's pretty good and they look at me like I'm listening to her ironically or I'm gay. I listen to mostly Rap and poo poo so you can probably see why.... Maybe it's the new decade coming up and it might be on some glam poo poo like the 80s, gently caress these unstylish niggas, this upcoming decade is gonna own Bad Romance's electronica sound that it has to it is so unbelievably awesome.
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SO GOOD SO GOOD SOO GOOODDD OH MY GOOODDD I'm pretty sure the floor of that show was the best rave I've ever been too, oh god it was insaaaaanneeeee.
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I'm going to see her on the 19th in the San Diego Convention Center. It was either her by herself in a circular stage where the audience surrounds her, or her with Kid Cudi and Semi Precious Weapons in an opera type place called Club Nokia in LA. I opted for the former, since I've heard about her stage presence and I think I'd rather see her be alone with some grand show she planned. I heard how crazy the Fame Kills tour was supposed to be, and I totally would have gone to that. loving Kanye.
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Advice posted:It was either her by herself in a circular stage where the audience surrounds her, or her with Kid Cudi and Semi Precious Weapons in an opera type place called Club Nokia in LA. Ummmm, you DO know that she designed a special set for the tour... right? I hope you get too see her use all the set pieces she did tonightt (w/ kid cudi and semi precious weapons).
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Maybe I'm listening to the wrong versions on youtube but the Just Dance/Don't Stop Believin mixes aren't doing it for me. It's like mixing peanut butter and mashed potatoes. However, if Gaga somehow did a live version with the piano I'm sure she could make it rock. She made a Coldplay song enjoyable for the first time with her piano cover of Viva La Vida.
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Pyrolocutus posted:Just for clarification, is the iTunes version of Bad Romance censored? No, I'm pretty sure it isn't.
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Bozz posted:Maybe I'm listening to the wrong versions on youtube but the Just Dance/Don't Stop Believin mixes aren't doing it for me. It's like mixing peanut butter and mashed potatoes. However, if Gaga somehow did a live version with the piano I'm sure she could make it rock. She made a Coldplay song enjoyable for the first time with her piano cover of Viva La Vida.
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