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Slaan
Mar 16, 2009



ASHERAH DEMANDS I FEAST, I VOTE FOR A FEAST OF FLESH
He does all that by buying tomatoes from a guy at the farmer's market? Obviously that farmer has an email address, and thus couldn't be a millionaire!


Also, why the hell doesn't he just go to the local library and get a crap internet connection.

And the minimum wage is, what $7.85 right now?

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Strudel Man
May 19, 2003
ROME DID NOT HAVE ROBOTS, FUCKWIT

Slaan posted:

He does all that by buying tomatoes from a guy at the farmer's market? Obviously that farmer has an email address, and thus couldn't be a millionaire!


Also, why the hell doesn't he just go to the local library and get a crap internet connection.

And the minimum wage is, what $7.85 right now?
Complaining that glurge is technically inaccurate may be somewhat missing the point. It's like picking at the plot holes in fairy tales.

Slaan
Mar 16, 2009



ASHERAH DEMANDS I FEAST, I VOTE FOR A FEAST OF FLESH
But it entertained me for 5 minutes :(

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin
Where's the story of the guy who spends his last 10 dollars on a crate of tomatoes but can only sell 4 of them before they all spoil because the street corner tomato business model actually isn't very good.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


RussianBear posted:

Not that political, but still crazy.


Some gizmo! Bootstraps!

Its just a poor retread of the "bookkeeper in a brothel" story except it makes less sense as no company would refuse to hire a janitor for not having an email address.

dphrag
May 20, 2006
Ooga Booga Goo
I'm pretty sure millionaires have email addresses?

Cognac McCarthy
Oct 5, 2008

It's a man's game, but boys will play

I also think it's a bit funny and probably overlooked by people who actually believe that email that the tomato industry in the US is huge, and by proportion it's probably the biggest employer of undocumented workers. I sense some cognitive dissonance.

Vilerat
May 11, 2002
I tend to reply all to any of these emails just on the off chance that somebody else in the dialogue is actually open to hearing rebuttals (I know, fat chance but still). Out of the blue somebody who was in that chain mailed, just to me, some silly poo poo.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/patboone.asp

I received a long winded version of this email along with a bunch of pseudo patriotic crap so naturally I replied pointing out the problems with it.

It appears I've struck a vein of pure lunacy in this response back to me:

quote:

Hi (Vilerat),

Your response doesn't surprise me. Obviously, through no fault of yours, you are lacking the theological convictions that influenced the founders of our nation as they struggled with the problems of writing a constitution that would ensure freedom of religion and lawful activities of its citizens forever. The constitution that emerged resulted in creation of the greatest nation on earth. The idea was that each citizen would be responsible for his own decisions and actions: how he used his personal freedom.

For 200 years our nation's citizens thanked their Judeo Christian God for their increasing wealth and standard of living. Life wasn't always easy but being free to succeed or fail and create anew made the difference, and resulted in a nation that was the envy of the world. The citizens today are voluntary slaves to Government demanding that they have a RIGHT to be cared for from the cradle to the grave whether they have been a contributor to the national wealth or not. Unlike you, I thank God for the opportunity to serve our country in the military for over four years against the aggression of Japan and to its prosperity since during a lifespan of 90 yrs.

"The point is" Obama goes to a foreign country and, in a speech to the nation declares that the United States is not a Christian country and may even be a Muslim country. This is not taken out of context and angered over 70% of the 300 million Americans for the benefit of all Muslims by lying about the influence of approximately 3 million Muslims in the U. S. Obama's comment certainly in context. "America Has been Arrogant". In other speeches in foreign countries I personally heard Obama denigrate Americas actions. Not appropriate for an American President to ingratiate himself before foreign leaders at America's expense! Not one of Obama's quotes given by this "crackpot ramblings by one of the far right wing loons at Worldnetdaily" was out of context, as you described it. You would have known that if you had actually listened to Obama's speeches. So, using your own terminology, this describes you as a left wing loon blinded by the persuasive rhetoric of his latest idol. Having said all that I am sure you are a very likeable guy. God bless you my friend and give you a long life and wisdom. Let us pray that
President Oboma will stop breaking all his campaign promises and will live up to the dignity we expect of our President.


Somewhere in Arizona is an old man yelling at a cloud. He seems like a nice guy though :)

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire

quote:

PHOTO: Obama Prays to Allah...

This is OUR President at an "Islamic Prayer Day" session LAST WEEK AT THE WHITE HOUSE

Oh, yes, Obama prays all right:

WITH THE MUSLIMS!!

This is OUR President at a MOSQUE prayer session LAST WEEK AT THE WHITE HOUSE, on the site where the INAUGURATION is held every 4 years!

He canceled OUR CHRISTIAN "NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER"...Now. ..THIS.
For Obama to continue as our president is an INSULT TO OUR FOUNDING FATHERS!

I've said it before but for an evil Mastermind spy bent on taking over the US from the inside, he really doesn't know how to keep a low profile...

Vilerat
May 11, 2002
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/photos/prayerday.asp

Yep. I love the low hanging fruit ones.

Seth Pecksniff
May 27, 2004

can't believe shrek is fucking dead. rip to a real one.
I didn't know that the Inauguration moved back to the White House! :aaaaa:

i am the bird
Mar 2, 2005

I SUPPORT ALL THE PREDATORS
I can't believe Obama spent my tax money to redesign the White House to fit his ideal, Islamic architecture.

ducttape
Mar 1, 2008
Economics classroom, now with 30% less straw:

Straw man posted:

An economics professor at Texas Tech said he had almost never failed a single student before but had, once, failed almost an entire class. The class had insisted that capitalism worked and that no one would be poor and everyone would be rich, a great equalizer. The professor then said ok, we will have an experiment in this class on capitalism. After each test, students would be allowed to buy and sell grade points, so that each student would have an economic incentive to succeed.

After the first test, the trading began. Most of the class sold a couple of their points that they felt that they could afford, but almost everyone sold to Frank, who had spent the weekend visiting his parents asking for money, rather than studying. After the second test, Frank was joined by Daniel and Rachael. Adam, on the other hand, had had his hours cut back at work, and his mother couldn't afford to send any money, so he estimated how many points he would need to still pass the course, and sold the rest. By the time that the third test came around, everyone was already planning their point trades. However, much to their dismay, that test was significantly harder than the previous two. A quarter of the class hadn't even studied, under the assumption that they could buy a couple points if they needed. Only a couple of students ended up passing the class that semester. Adam lost his scholarship, and had to drop out of school. Daniel and Rachael both failed when neither of them could match Franks bids on the few points that were being sold. The professor told them that capitalism would ultimately fail because when gaming the system is more rewarding than improving it, people won't try to succeed.

You have full permission to reply with this if you ever encounter the original.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
Reminds me of an incredibly remedial philosophy class at the Art Insitute of Seattle where one of the last tests had a system attached where the class would turn in slips stating "yes" or "no" along with the test. If we hit above a certain high percentage of Yes then everyone in the class would have their test score jump by a half grade. If a middle area was hit then everyone with a "No" vote would go up a full grade (amounting to like 2-3 people) and if the percentage dropped below that middle ground everyones grades dropped a half grade.

There were absolutely zero rules on how we could co-ordinate, only that ultimately the vote would be secret.


The "debate" was a beautiful thing. I think we all ended up realizing there were too many assholes to get to the high-yes area and the rest of the time was people who sucked pleading with the rest of the class to not tank everyone out of spite.

We did.

Evil wins.

Pththya-lyi
Nov 8, 2009

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2020
As a Christian, I'm actually glad that the President chose not to pray publicly. In the Sermon on the Mount (specifically, Matthew 6:5-6), Jesus specifically tells his followers not to pray publically, as this is ostentatious behavior - when you pray where people can see and hear you, you're basically going "Look at me! I'm all holy and devout and stuff! Aren't I awesome?" Christianity isn't supposed to be about cultivating the outward appearance of holiness, it should be about cultivating actual holiness in oneself and in others.

PainterofCrap
Oct 17, 2002

hey bebe



SpergyGirl posted:


Seems like such a simple thing, doesn't it? Wouldn't it be nice?

crime fighting hog
Jun 29, 2006

I only pray, Heaven knows when to lift you out

SpergyGirl posted:

As a Christian, I'm actually glad that the President chose not to pray publicly. In the Sermon on the Mount (specifically, Matthew 6:5-6), Jesus specifically tells his followers not to pray publically, as this is ostentatious behavior - when you pray where people can see and hear you, you're basically going "Look at me! I'm all holy and devout and stuff! Aren't I awesome?" Christianity isn't supposed to be about cultivating the outward appearance of holiness, it should be about cultivating actual holiness in oneself and in others.

Should I tell this to the group of Crusade kids that are always praying in the middle of the campus recreation area each week or should I not try to get shot?

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire

crime fighting hog posted:

Should I tell this to the group of Crusade kids that are always praying in the middle of the campus recreation area each week or should I not try to get shot?

Hey if they kill you baited them into breaking a commandment you win either way.

Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

hardest time i ever done :(

crime fighting hog posted:

Should I tell this to the group of Crusade kids that are always praying in the middle of the campus recreation area each week or should I not try to get shot?

I would just quote the relevant passage right at them and gauge their reactions.

“When you pray, you are not to be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they may be seen by men. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full. But you, when you pray, go into your inner room, close your door and pray to your Father who is in secret, and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you.

Plom Bar fucked around with this message at 08:38 on Dec 16, 2009

Pththya-lyi
Nov 8, 2009

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2020
I'd actually frame it as an innocent question. Like, "Hey, why do you pray in public when Jesus said not to do that?" The less confrontational you are about it, the less likely the situation is to end badly. (Was that sentence even grammatical? Did it even make sense?) You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar and all that.

dphrag
May 20, 2006
Ooga Booga Goo

ducttape posted:

Economics classroom, now with 30% less straw:


You have full permission to reply with this if you ever encounter the original.

Hey, another "game" for me to rip apart.. heh..

This does remind me, however, of a horrible game called "capitalism" that my philosophy TA played in a seminar class... basically the game will end with one person "owning" everything, and several people dying from starvation.

At the time I was but a first year econ student, but in retrospect, it was blatantly retarded. Make a game in which people "die" and one person ends with all the power, then name it whatever ism you don't like. Education!

tek79
Jun 16, 2008

crime fighting hog posted:

Should I tell this to the group of Crusade kids that are always praying in the middle of the campus recreation area each week or should I not try to get shot?

You're assuming the average modern Christian actually cares what Jesus actually said. He was, after all, a total liberal pussy. I doubt you'll sway them much.

crime fighting hog
Jun 29, 2006

I only pray, Heaven knows when to lift you out

tek79 posted:

You're assuming the average modern Christian actually cares what Jesus actually said. He was, after all, a total liberal pussy. I doubt you'll sway them much.

Well to be fair last time I actually talked to them and asked something along the lines of "How did you become so religious" they kinda gave me a sour look and said "It's not religion, it's spirituality"

ManoliIsFat
Oct 4, 2002

tek79 posted:

You're assuming the average modern Christian actually cares what Jesus actually said. He was, after all, a total liberal pussy. I doubt you'll sway them much.

I know that's an easy retort to prostelitizing Christians, but there's a bunch of material to cite (especially in the epistles) to be in-your-face about your worship of Jesus and God.

Gripen5
Nov 3, 2003

'Startocaster' is more fun to say than I expected.

ManoliIsFat posted:

I know that's an easy retort to prostelitizing Christians, but there's a bunch of material to cite (especially in the epistles) to be in-your-face about your worship of Jesus and God.

I never did understand why Christians put so much more emphasis on what Paul, a man who never even met Jesus, said, rather than you know... Jesus. I understand that Jesus did often talk in riddles rather than strait answers, but most (all?) of them are not that complicated.

Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

hardest time i ever done :(
Query: Was Paul history's first sender of crazy religious chain letters?

Pththya-lyi
Nov 8, 2009

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2020

Gripen5 posted:

a man who never even met Jesus

But he did meet Jesus. :smug:

Gripen5
Nov 3, 2003

'Startocaster' is more fun to say than I expected.

SpergyGirl posted:

But he did meet Jesus. :smug:

For some reason, I thought his conversion was a visit from the holy spirit or some other messenger of God. But I guess it was resurrected Jesus saying, "Stop killing my people! Now go and preach the word!"

I guess when Jesus asks you to do something, you drat well better do it.

Ok, never met pre-resurrected Jesus. The REAL Jesus. :smug:

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal
Someone let me know if this one's been posted.

quote:

This professor is a genius
We need more like him in our schools!!


An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before, but had once failed an entire class. That class had insisted that Obama's socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.

The professor then said, "OK, we will have an experiment in this class on Obama's plan."

All grades would be averaged and everyone would receive the same grade so no one would fail and no one would receive an A.

After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B.
The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy.

As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too, so they studied little. The second test average was a D! No one was happy.

When the third test rolled around, the average was an F.

The scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else. All failed, to their great surprise, and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great, but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed.

Could not be any simpler than that!

lol Obama sux am I rite?

I found it on snopes but they're not sure where it came from and only list it as a legend.

CornHolio fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Dec 17, 2009

Seth Pecksniff
May 27, 2004

can't believe shrek is fucking dead. rip to a real one.
It should be a legend because any professor would be fired for pulling that poo poo.

Edit: Wow my mind transposed "legend" and "lesson" :psyduck:

Seth Pecksniff fucked around with this message at 00:37 on Dec 18, 2009

Gripen5
Nov 3, 2003

'Startocaster' is more fun to say than I expected.

CornHolio posted:

Someone let me know if this one's been posted.


lol Obama sux am I rite?

I found it on snopes but they're not sure where it came from and only list it as a legend.

I am pretty sure it has been posted before. ducttape a dozen or so posts above yours has a nice response to it.

I also find it telling that the email uses a policy that is nothing like Obama, or anyone else for that matter, has ever proposed.

Turnquiet
Oct 24, 2002

My friend is an eloquent speaker.

I am sure in the 90's the same email existed except it mentioned Clinton's socialism or whatever. :rolleyes:

Strudel Man
May 19, 2003
ROME DID NOT HAVE ROBOTS, FUCKWIT

Gripen5 posted:

I am pretty sure it has been posted before. ducttape a dozen or so posts above yours has a nice response to it.

I also find it telling that the email uses a policy that is nothing like Obama, or anyone else for that matter, has ever proposed.
Indeed. It's a boilerplate 'communism is against human nature' forward, with Obama subbed in because, of course, Obama is a communist.

Personally, I rather wish someone would try such an arrangement in their classroom once. I'd be curious to know what the end result would be; a classroom is small enough for shaming to have a meaningful influence on people's actions, and likewise for the individual contribution to have a non-negligible impact on the ultimate outcome. As well as the fact that it's an intellectual endeavor, and not solely profit-motivated. I strongly suspect that the equilibrium point would not be anywhere near an F.

Though of course, I also imagine it would depend on the classroom. A business class might well trend down to F territory, with hard sciences doing better, and perhaps social sciences better still. An interesting question.

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal

Gripen5 posted:

I am pretty sure it has been posted before. ducttape a dozen or so posts above yours has a nice response to it.

I also find it telling that the email uses a policy that is nothing like Obama, or anyone else for that matter, has ever proposed.

Huh. I didn't even see that. I sent that as a reply. :)

tek79
Jun 16, 2008

Professor of Economics posted:

That class had insisted that Obama's socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.

Having a really hard time believing there wasn't at least one Randroid in there somewhere. You know the one I'm talking about.

Strudel Man
May 19, 2003
ROME DID NOT HAVE ROBOTS, FUCKWIT

tek79 posted:

Having a really hard time believing there wasn't at least one Randroid in there somewhere. You know the one I'm talking about.
He left the class a while earlier, on the basis that his study group partners were looters.

dphrag
May 20, 2006
Ooga Booga Goo

Strudel Man posted:

I strongly suspect that the equilibrium point would not be anywhere near an F.

Though of course, I also imagine it would depend on the classroom. A business class might well trend down to F territory, with hard sciences doing better, and perhaps social sciences better still. An interesting question.

A few pages back I was tweaking out on coffee and wrote an analysis of the game for shits and giggles.

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

Why the gently caress do people think that under a "socialist" system (which in the US seems to mean "having a limited social welfare safety net") EVERYTHING, or even ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT, will be stripped away from those who succeed? As though Warren Buffet will have all his assets sold off, be stripped of his Rolex and Armani, and forced to walk naked down Wall Street lined with screaming mobs who pelt him with bricks until he eventually collapses and they feast upon his very flesh.

Strudel Man
May 19, 2003
ROME DID NOT HAVE ROBOTS, FUCKWIT

freebooter posted:

Why the gently caress do people think that under a "socialist" system (which in the US seems to mean "having a limited social welfare safety net") EVERYTHING, or even ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT, will be stripped away from those who succeed? As though Warren Buffet will have all his assets sold off, be stripped of his Rolex and Armani, and forced to walk naked down Wall Street lined with screaming mobs who pelt him with bricks until he eventually collapses and they feast upon his very flesh.
Taxes.

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Pththya-lyi
Nov 8, 2009

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2020

freebooter posted:

Why the gently caress do people think that under a "socialist" system (which in the US seems to mean "having a limited social welfare safety net") EVERYTHING, or even ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT, will be stripped away from those who succeed? As though Warren Buffet will have all his assets sold off, be stripped of his Rolex and Armani, and forced to walk naked down Wall Street lined with screaming mobs who pelt him with bricks until he eventually collapses and they feast upon his very flesh.

The Boomers grew up hearing about Evil Communist Russia, which was Evil because it was Communist, so they were conditioned to think that any form of socialism would lead to :commissar:.

Darn Boomers.:argh:

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