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Xenomorph
Jun 13, 2001
We just upgraded to a bunch of Cisco Gigabit switches at work (2960?).

We asked what we should do with all the old 100 Mbps 2950 switches. We were told to just toss them.

There are 3 decommissioned at the moment, with at least 1 more coming.

Two 2950G and one 2950C units are the ones I've looked at.

I know the 2950C has the 100 Mbps Fiber uplink ports, and the 2950G has the two Gig uplink port slot thingies.

I grabbed one of the 2950G units. Now, what kind of fun can I have with this thing? Is there any point to having one of these at home? I know we used them at work because of their great VLAN support. I don't plan on using VLANs at home.

I'd much prefer a basic GigE switch, as I already have stacks of 10/100 switches, it's just it would be such a shame to toss a Cisco 2950, since they use to cost a ton.

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Casimirus
Mar 28, 2005
Yes.

Xenomorph posted:

We just upgraded to a bunch of Cisco Gigabit switches at work (2960?).

We asked what we should do with all the old 100 Mbps 2950 switches. We were told to just toss them.

There are 3 decommissioned at the moment, with at least 1 more coming.

Two 2950G and one 2950C units are the ones I've looked at.

I know the 2950C has the 100 Mbps Fiber uplink ports, and the 2950G has the two Gig uplink port slot thingies.

I grabbed one of the 2950G units. Now, what kind of fun can I have with this thing? Is there any point to having one of these at home? I know we used them at work because of their great VLAN support. I don't plan on using VLANs at home.

I'd much prefer a basic GigE switch, as I already have stacks of 10/100 switches, it's just it would be such a shame to toss a Cisco 2950, since they use to cost a ton.

Those models run the enhanced image and they're pretty decent other than not doing gig, seems like they would be kind of big and loud for use at home though, unless they're in a closet or something.

You could SPAN a port and make sure that you know what every connection on your network is doing, screw around with MRTG/Cacti/other SNMP stuff, or mess around with 802.1x. Their real value is that you can loan them out to people who want to learn and practice STP and port security (and for certifications it's the only hardware you need, everything else can be done easier in dynamips).

Slickdrac
Oct 5, 2007

Not allowed to have nice things
I'm having a bizzaire issue as of late with my 3845 routers. For some reason, the Gig0/0 interfaces will only show as up up unless I admin shut them. It doesn't matter if there's no cable plugged in, or if the wrong cable is plugged in. It will always show as up/up. The version is up to date on all of them.

I've noticed it for about a week now on 4 routers, but it hasn't been an issue up til now because I'm trying to plug something into g0/0. The link lights won't come on for either side of the connection when I plug it into the port that they want me to plug into on their switch. If I plug it into one of the other ports, I get link lights on both sides. But either way, in the router I see up/up. I've tried stright thru and crossover as well. It's from the 3845 to a Juniper switch/firewall thingy that I have no login access to.

code:
BUTTES#sho int g0/0
GigabitEthernet0/0 is up, line protocol is up 
  Hardware is BCM1125 Internal MAC, address is not.shown.here (bia not.shown.here)
  Description: ***CONNECTION TO ALL YOUR WORLDLY DESIRES***
  Internet address is 4.20.6.9/24
  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 100000 Kbit/sec, DLY 100 usec, 
     reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
  Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set
  Keepalive not set
  Full-duplex, 100Mb/s, media type is RJ45
  output flow-control is XON, input flow-control is XON
  ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00
  Last input 00:23:35, output 00:00:00, output hang never
  Last clearing of "show interface" counters 11:45:26
  Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 18043
  Queueing strategy: fifo
  Output queue: 0/40 (size/max)
  5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
     0 packets input, 0 bytes, 0 no buffer
     Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
     0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored
     0 watchdog, 0 multicast, 0 pause input
     0 input packets with dribble condition detected
     1387 packets output, 110787 bytes, 0 underruns
     0 output errors, 0 collisions, 2 interface resets
     0 unknown protocol drops
     0 babbles, 0 late collision, 0 deferred
     0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier, 0 pause output
     0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
You can see that it's putting out packets, somehow. It's been 1 packet out every 2 seconds, roughly.
code:
interface GigabitEthernet0/0
 description ***CONNECTION TO ALL YOUR WORLDLY DESIRES***
 ip address 4.20.6.9 255.255.255.0
 no ip proxy-arp
 ip route-cache flow
 no ip mroute-cache
 duplex full
 speed auto
 media-type rj45
 no keepalive
I've been Googling all morning, but I'm terrible at it, apparently :(

ior
Nov 21, 2003

What's a fuckass?

Slickdrac posted:

code:
interface GigabitEthernet0/0
 description ***CONNECTION TO ALL YOUR WORLDLY DESIRES***
 ip address 4.20.6.9 255.255.255.0
 no ip proxy-arp
 ip route-cache flow
 no ip mroute-cache
 duplex full
 speed auto
 media-type rj45
 no keepalive
I've been Googling all morning, but I'm terrible at it, apparently :(

Try:

int gig0/0
keepalive 10

ragzilla
Sep 9, 2005
don't ask me, i only work here


CrazyLittle posted:

Debug's on at both sides, neither outbound nor inbound show up in logs. It's as if the ping packets never get sent.

Maybe overly obvious, but if you're telnet/ssh'd in, you do have 'term mon' turned on right?

CrazyLittle
Sep 11, 2001





Clapping Larry

ragzilla posted:

Maybe overly obvious, but if you're telnet/ssh'd in, you do have 'term mon' turned on right?

Yeah, I'm watching everything else scroll through my terminal except for the information I want to show up :(
To make things weirder, mtr can see/reach/respond to the device just fine.

Slickdrac
Oct 5, 2007

Not allowed to have nice things

ior posted:

Try:

int gig0/0
keepalive 10

That works. I'm still failing to understand how that would cause the interface to think it's up when absolutely nothing is plugged in to it besides a bit bucket.

I did figure out why I wasn't getting a connection up to the Juniper tho, apparently it wanted to duplex set to auto instead of full on my interface. Worked fine with duplex full off the old router that was the exact same type of device and configuration.

jbusbysack
Sep 6, 2002
i heart syd

Syano posted:

Above poster is correct. IPs and interface names (inside/outside) are assigned to the VLAN interfaces.

You're right. Thanks for knocking my head back on straight, it's been a while since staging an 05 from scratch.

Im actually setting up a barebones 5505 to replace a sonicwall TZ160 right now that was causing the strangest VPN issue in a while. From a functional standpoint, the tunnel works, each network to network segment having its own SA.

What made this interesting however is that the Sonicwall would present its proxy ID as not the local LAN segment, but the external (public) address segment and the Cisco ASA on the other end would get rather upset, yet still pass traffic due to the default crypto map. Effectively the tunnel would get built, pass traffic for one cycle of the data lifetime and get broken down....repeat.

They had been looking to replace the sonicwall for a while anyway, so this was a decent excuse.

Syano
Jul 13, 2005
Incidentally I found my issue. I finally yanked the wall plate off the wall and noticed the cable (cat5e) had been split and had half the pairs going to one jack and half the pairs to my jack. Apparently the errors are due to some wicked crosstalk

hermand
Oct 3, 2004

V-Dubbin

along the way posted:

Need some advice on buying a lab kit for the CCNA. I'm just finishing Network Fundamentals (Cisco 1) in the local Cisco Network Academy and I'm starting Routing and Switching classes next semester.

My professor told me to look for used 2900 model switches and 2600 model routers to take me through Routing and Switching and prepare for the CCNA.

I found this guy who seems to have some nice kits, but many of them seem like overkill for what I need.

Your prof is bang on - ideally you need 3 2950 Switches and 2x 2600 series routers. But, if I'm honest, I'd recommend just getting a 2950 and then using Packet Tracer or something similar. It's always good to have a real switch to play with (especially if you've never physically plugged a console cable in or whatever) but it just becomes hassle having a stack of Cisco kit in your living room!

I'd say this is even moreso if you're getting the chance to use kit at college or wherever.

Harry Totterbottom
Dec 19, 2008

hermand posted:

Your prof is bang on - ideally you need 3 2950 Switches and 2x 2600 series routers. But, if I'm honest, I'd recommend just getting a 2950 and then using Packet Tracer or something similar. It's always good to have a real switch to play with (especially if you've never physically plugged a console cable in or whatever) but it just becomes hassle having a stack of Cisco kit in your living room!

I'd say this is even moreso if you're getting the chance to use kit at college or wherever.

Agreed with the 2950, I like GNS3 for router emulation.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
I went a little out with my setup and picked up three 3640s, one 2600, and three 2950s. I wanted a kit that I could use after CCNA as well though, and the money was there so I figured why not. I really wanted the 3640 so I could throw a bunch of NM-4Ts in and do frame relay, but also be able to use it for something else if I didn't feel like running a frame setup. I forgot why I ended up buying the 3640s other than they were pretty cheap.

All my equipment came from cablesandkits.com. I can't recommend them enough.

Also just finished Network Fundamentals, beginning routing and switching on the 12th. Can't wait!

some kinda jackal fucked around with this message at 09:54 on Dec 18, 2009

Harry Totterbottom
Dec 19, 2008

Martytoof posted:

I went a little out with my setup and picked up three 3640s, one 2600, and three 2950s. I wanted a kit that I could use after CCNA as well though, and the money was there so I figured why not. I really wanted the 3640 so I could throw a bunch of NM-4Ts in and do frame relay, but also be able to use it for something else if I didn't feel like running a frame setup. I forgot why I ended up buying the 3640s other than they were pretty cheap.

All my equipment came from cablesandkits.com. I can't recommend them enough.

Also just finished Network Fundamentals, beginning routing and switching on the 12th. Can't wait!

Yeah, I snagged up a couple of 2600's, a 3640, a couple of 2900's and a couple of 2950's. Overall, I could have saved some cash and just gotten a 2950. Having the gear is great, but if you're watching cost and want to do things on the cheap you really just need a switch and something that will let you interact with the IOS.

For the CCNA I found it to be more about theory and some general configuration that IOS emulation can handle without a problem. Once you start working on the NP track you want to get a layer 3 switch (hopefully with an enterprise license not the standard so you get eigrp), just for some of one off commands and config (like turning a switchport into a routing interface).

ragzilla
Sep 9, 2005
don't ask me, i only work here


Harry Totterbottom posted:

Yeah, I snagged up a couple of 2600's, a 3640, a couple of 2900's and a couple of 2950's. Overall, I could have saved some cash and just gotten a 2950. Having the gear is great, but if you're watching cost and want to do things on the cheap you really just need a switch and something that will let you interact with the IOS.

For the CCNA I found it to be more about theory and some general configuration that IOS emulation can handle without a problem. Once you start working on the NP track you want to get a layer 3 switch (hopefully with an enterprise license not the standard so you get eigrp), just for some of one off commands and config (like turning a switchport into a routing interface).

If you can find an L3 switch with a recent image, IPBASE should include EIGRP stub. But for full blown EIGRP/OSPF/ISIS you need IPSERVICES.

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth
3600's are so cheap because they are practically worthless, many of them don't even have stand alone interfaces and require wic's to get any. The wics are usually pretty expensive because most of them can still be used in the 2800's and 3800's.

If it comes with the wics or at least 2 interfaces, then you are good, but don't assume.

Boner Buffet
Feb 16, 2006
From an ASA, is there a way to log any inside node from attempting to pass through the firewall via port 25?

CBL has our ASA's general NAT IP blocked. For some reason, and I can't figure out why, that's causing our SPAM filter which has RBL's configured on it to block messages from yahoo.com. The situation actually doesn't make much sense to me as our SMTP server has a completely different public IP being NATed by the ASA than is being reported.

I've finally put some ACLs to block outbound traffic as when the ASA was installed, there were just PATs setup for outbound access. No DMZ(yet). I've got the following:

code:
access-list Inside_access_in line 1 extended permit tcp host 10.1.1.40 any eq smtp (hitcnt=743)
access-list Inside_access_in line 2 extended deny tcp any any eq smtp (hitcnt=0)
access-list Inside_access_in line 3 extended permit tcp any any (hitcnt=36678)
access-list Inside_access_in line 4 extended permit udp any any (hitcnt=16810)
I see no hit count on SMTP. So either none of our PCs are spamming or I have the rule wrong.

Boner Buffet
Feb 16, 2006
I think I know what part of the issue is now. The NAT works from the outside in, as in an email sent from a foreign host will go to our smtp server with the mx address via NAT, but that server will not use the correct address to send an email outbound(or even http traffic according to whatsmyip). It uses the PAT address instead.

code:
static (Inside,Outside) 216.222.222.222 10.1.1.40 netmask 255.255.255.255
EDIT: Actually, checking the header of an email from my work account to the gmail account shows the correct IP. I'm thoroughly confused now.

Boner Buffet fucked around with this message at 17:58 on Dec 18, 2009

jwh
Jun 12, 2002

Lab gear is frustrating- I have much, much, much too much lab gear, and I never even power it on. Why? Because it's too loud, eats a ton of power, and in my microscopic 750 square foot condo, takes up too much room.

I guess what I'm really saying is, don't do what I did, and think you need to buy a ton of Cisco hardware just because it seems like a good idea.

dark_3y3
Sep 24, 2002

"Identity Crisis" Murderer.
We just upgraded some of our 3750 switches here at work from 12.2 (48) SE to 12.2 (52), and our syslog server is now being flooded with the new dot1x traps. We only upgraded one of our smaller buildings as a test, and good thing.

As we didn't enable them specifically, we didn't expect the sudden flood we got about dot1x. Our environment has a lot of user connections that we really don't want to know when they connect/disconnect and authenticate. We have event 'no logging event link-status' on all of their interfaces.

Our snmp server setup and logging setup with obvious

snmp-server community X RO 40
snmp-server community X RW 41
snmp-server tftp-server-list 49
snmp-server enable traps tty
snmp-server enable traps license
snmp-server enable traps stpx root-inconsistency loop-inconsistency
snmp-server file-transfer access-group 49 protocol tftp

logging trap notifications
logging source-interface VlanX
logging x.x.x.x
logging y.y.y.y
logging z.z.z.z

We want to have logging level 5(notification) minimum setup and not be slammed by all of these dot1x messages. There was a specific bug/security issue that we hit in the (48) release that we just spent all summer upgrading to, hence the move to (52).

Does anyone have any suggestions on how we can suppress these dot1x traps other than moving the logging level up to 4(warning)?

Additional info, from one of the upgraded switch stacks.
code:
Switch Ports Model              SW Version            SW Image
------ ----- -----              ----------            ----------
*    1 52    WS-C3750-48TS      12.2(52)SE            C3750-IPBASEK9-M
     2 52    WS-C3750-48TS      12.2(52)SE            C3750-IPBASEK9-M

dark_3y3 fucked around with this message at 07:52 on Dec 20, 2009

hermand
Oct 3, 2004

V-Dubbin

jwh posted:

Lab gear is frustrating- I have much, much, much too much lab gear, and I never even power it on. Why? Because it's too loud, eats a ton of power, and in my microscopic 750 square foot condo, takes up too much room.

I guess what I'm really saying is, don't do what I did, and think you need to buy a ton of Cisco hardware just because it seems like a good idea.

I didn't spend money to learn this, but I did borrow (genuinely, over a weekend) a load of Cisco kit from work. Same thing - after the initial woo factor you realise it's just as beneficial playing on a sim and not tripping over equipment all the time.

When I get a proper study area and I move on to the CCNP track, I'd like a little rack and some nice kit.

Again, I think this only counts if you have hands on experience anyway. I'd hate to see a CCNA get a job where they've never actually held a switch.

falz
Jan 29, 2005

01100110 01100001 01101100 01111010

hermand posted:

kit
Some people use the word "kit" when it comes to Cisco gear. I see it used a lot on c-nsp as well but never felt like asking. My guess is it's region related?

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth
Its probably because Cisco gear is known as expensive and whenever you have some expensive stuff (watches, labgear, a car, or mods for a car, etc) its some "expensive kit."

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 

jwh posted:

I never even power it on. Why? Because it's too loud, eats a ton of power, and in my microscopic 750 square foot condo, takes up too much room.

My poor dog runs away every time I power on my router or switch stacks :(

falz
Jan 29, 2005

01100110 01100001 01101100 01111010

Powercrazy posted:

Its probably because Cisco gear is known as expensive and whenever you have some expensive stuff (watches, labgear, a car, or mods for a car, etc) its some "expensive kit."
I have never heard of "kit" used in that way either. A "kit" to me is something that comes in pieces that you have to assemble or something that comes in many pieces, such as a "drum kit". I guess that sort of applies to some modular Cisco gear.

Anyway, on to a real question. My goal is to get MPLS working between various 6500s and 7200s w/ NPE-400's and FastEthernet interfaces, and one 2800 that has no user settable MTU. (MPLS requires > 1500 MTU).

OSPF requires MTU to match, and this is where I'm having the problem. 12.2SB on 7200s allow me to adjust MTU up to 1530 on FE's. These are connected to Gigabit interfaces on the 6500 that only allow an MTU setting of 9216 or 1500. The real IP on the 6500s lives on an SVI (vlan) interface. I also have one 2800 that's a member of area 0 that has no user settable MTU, so it's 1500. This 2800 will not partake in MPLS but since it's on the same subnet and in area 0, my goal is to get OSPF working @ MTU 1500 while the MPLS routers can operate at 1530 (max possible on 7200 FE's).

In dynamips I've been testing between 7200 & 2600 and found that:

- I can set 'ip ospf mtu-ignore' on the lower MTU side (2600) and OSPF works.

OR

- I can set 'ip mtu 1500' on the 7200 (which has mtu 1530) and OSPF works.

Clearly 'ip mtu 1500' is making the 7200's originating OSPF packets say it actually has an MTU of 1500. 'ip ospf mtu-ignore' does exactly what it sounds like. Does the 'ip mtu' command force the router to NEVER generate a packet that's larger than 1500 (generate as in OSPF neighbors, BGP peers)?

This works in an emulator but in real life I would suspect I'd have some OSPF packets that are larger than 1500 and possibly some problems due to that.

Herv
Mar 24, 2005

Soiled Meat

jbusbysack posted:

June 30, 2010 is the end of the existing 4-exam CCNP track for non-Network Academy people. After that it's more or less mix and match of the old/exams, so really get running on it.

BSCI = ROUTE
BCMSN = SWITCH
ONT + ISCW = TSHOOT

There's a PDF out with the new requirements but I'm not sure if it's ok to upload.

The funny thing is that it used to be:

Routing
Switching
Dial Up!
Troubleshooting

Thats what my CCNP was tested on and the courses were ACRC and whatnot. This is late 90's though.

Figures they are changing, I recently started up the cert thing again, not really sure why but just in case I have to look for another gig and don't feel like using MS Project all the time.

hermand
Oct 3, 2004

V-Dubbin

falz posted:

Some people use the word "kit" when it comes to Cisco gear. I see it used a lot on c-nsp as well but never felt like asking. My guess is it's region related?

I didn't really know what you meant until I read your second post, but yeah, just a British thing I guess. Kit is synonymous with the word gear or equipment over here. Actually, the British Oxford Dictionary says:

"noun 1 a set of articles or equipment for a specific purpose. 2 Brit. the clothing and other items needed for an activity. 3 a set of all the parts needed to assemble something"

http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/kit_1?view=uk

It dates back, too, if you look at this World War 1 song:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pack_Up_Your_Troubles_in_Your_Old_Kit-Bag

Sorry for perpetuating the derail but it's one of those words which I thought traversed the whole English language spectrum.

falz
Jan 29, 2005

01100110 01100001 01101100 01111010
This answers my question perfectly, and is pretty much what I suspected. Thanks.

falz posted:

mtu ospf mtu ospf..
I realized that I could shorten all of these details down to this:

Will setting "ip mtu 1500" on an interface ensure that packets created by this router (OSPF) will not be larger than 1500 or could it still create packets up to the interface's MTU setting ("mtu 1530")?

inignot
Sep 1, 2003

WWBCD?
One of the first things on Cisco's site for "ip mtu". I'm sure if you dig more some docs from a recent IOS will come up. Sounds roughly like a control plane vs data plane distinction.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/12_2/ipaddr/command/reference/1rfip2.html#wp1081151

quote:

To set the maximum transmission unit (MTU) size of IP packets sent on an interface, use the ip mtu interface configuration command. To restore the default MTU size, use the no form of this command.

Changing the MTU value (with the mtu interface configuration command) can affect the IP MTU value. If the current IP MTU value is the same as the MTU value, and you change the MTU value, the IP MTU value will be modified automatically to match the new MTU. However, the reverse is not true; changing the IP MTU value has no effect on the value for the mtu command.

falz
Jan 29, 2005

01100110 01100001 01101100 01111010

inignot posted:

One of the first things on Cisco's site for "ip mtu". I'm sure if you dig more some docs from a recent IOS will come up. Sounds roughly like a control plane vs data plane distinction.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/12_2/ipaddr/command/reference/1rfip2.html#wp1081151
Yep, it works as I had hoped. I also asked in one other spot and got decent responses. For future reference it's just really easy to think of it this way: if you just set 'mtu' it will also adjust all other MTU values:

- ip mtu
- ipv6 mtu
- mpls mtu

From there you can feel free to set any of the above lower to keep that protocol happy. Also, 'ip mtu' shuld really be called 'ipv4 mtu'.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Does anyone have any suggestions for a good MacOS serial capable terminal emulator? I have a USB-serial dongle that I can talk to using 'screen', but somehow that always comes off feeling like a pretty inelegant solution.

Edit: I guess I should have asked in the Mac software thread, but maybe there are other Cisco junkies that also enjoy Macs v:)v

Wicaeed
Feb 8, 2005
Currently looking at the feature set of the Cisco ASA 5505 vs the ASA5510, specifically the HA options.

I'm not readily finding this piece of information: What is the difference between Stateless Active/Standby High Availability on the 5505 Security Plus license, and the Active/Standby High Availability on the Cisco ASA 5510 Security Plus License?

CrazyLittle
Sep 11, 2001





Clapping Larry

Martytoof posted:

Does anyone have any suggestions for a good MacOS serial capable terminal emulator? I have a USB-serial dongle that I can talk to using 'screen', but somehow that always comes off feeling like a pretty inelegant solution.

Edit: I guess I should have asked in the Mac software thread, but maybe there are other Cisco junkies that also enjoy Macs v:)v

Z-Term and/or minicom

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Wicaeed posted:

Currently looking at the feature set of the Cisco ASA 5505 vs the ASA5510, specifically the HA options.

I'm not readily finding this piece of information: What is the difference between Stateless Active/Standby High Availability on the 5505 Security Plus license, and the Active/Standby High Availability on the Cisco ASA 5510 Security Plus License?

Basically when the the 5505 failsover it will drop all established connections, so all your users will have to VPN in again, and a site-to-site vpn will have to reestablish. Whereas on the 5510, the TCP state information will be shared between the two devices and it can failover gracefully.

inignot
Sep 1, 2003

WWBCD?

falz posted:

Yep, it works as I had hoped. I also asked in one other spot and got decent responses.

Yes, the Cisco-NSP list is a good resource.

ElCondemn
Aug 7, 2005


Martytoof posted:

Does anyone have any suggestions for a good MacOS serial capable terminal emulator? I have a USB-serial dongle that I can talk to using 'screen', but somehow that always comes off feeling like a pretty inelegant solution.

Edit: I guess I should have asked in the Mac software thread, but maybe there are other Cisco junkies that also enjoy Macs v:)v

I exclusively use minicom for all my terminal needs, all my cisco, hp, force10 and other random serial devices get configured using minicom. It's much nicer than running hyperterminal under windows (though I use putty when I only have windows), it's like using telnet or ssh.

Syano
Jul 13, 2005
This may be a tad bit out of place... anyhow... someone convince me why I need POE on the next switch I buy, if you can. I am going to be replacing two distribution switches at a remote site here soon and in the replacement I will be upgrading from 24 port to 48 ports. Right now the site uses injectors to power the 1130 radios. Problem with buying POE is is Cisco only sells 48 port models as 48 ports of POE or none. I actually only have 9 devices needing power at the moment. One side of me says to just bite the bullet and get POE in case we need to add other powered devices (phones maybe? I dont know what else we could add that would need power over ethernet) but the price difference in the models is really making the budget minded part of me pause before sending in the PO. Anyone have any insight or advice to help swing me one way or the other?

Slickdrac
Oct 5, 2007

Not allowed to have nice things
If you have devices that require POE, then you should buy something with POE. I couldn't give you exact prices :effort: but if you bought something with 12 or 16 ports of POE plus a normal 48 port switch, it'd be more expensive. And if you get 48 ports of POE, then you have plenty of spare slots in case an interface goes bad or something. It's always better to have more than you need vice less.

As for what uses POE, all I really know about is phones, which we use so drat many of that all our switches are POE whether it's used or not. (then again, that's military spending for you :doh: )

Harry Totterbottom
Dec 19, 2008

Slickdrac posted:

As for what uses POE, all I really know about is phones, which we use so drat many of that all our switches are POE whether it's used or not. (then again, that's military spending for you :doh: )

I believe most (if not all) of the aironet stuff can run off PoE as well.

Casimirus
Mar 28, 2005
Yes.
Also video cameras, also they make a 2960 that's powered by POE (2960PD-8TT-L).

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jwh
Jun 12, 2002

Syano posted:

This may be a tad bit out of place... anyhow... someone convince me why I need POE on the next switch I buy, if you can.
I don't even think the 3560 that does 48 ports of POE will do all 48 ports at class 3 POE. I think it's a number less than 48. Could be wrong.

Might want to price a small midspan injector, like from D-Sine, in combination with a 2960. It could (most likely is) cheaper than a POE 3560.

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