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Fired up the bead blaster at work. I'm starting the process of cleaning the best bits to assemble the 4AGZE.
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Sockington posted:Fired up the bead blaster at work. Sure did!  Super JDM double oil-filler & crankcase vent cap mod. Double ventin' yo.   Just kidding. Here's the clean set.    80amp Camry alternator bolts onto factory brackets.    And looks much nicer than this; 
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Mar 18, 2010 02:29
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I wish my engine looked that clean.
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Mar 18, 2010 19:27
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(Never realized the '800' limit had been lifted  )More parts from the bead blaster!  Test fitting a couple to the 4AGZE. (4AGE crank and wp pullies). The wp pullies are the same, just happened to have one handy to clean up  Belted in   Test fitting N/A intake manifold (needs TVIS plate or eliminator plate)   See this little hole? It's where the dizzy went (going EDIS).  The stock dizzy is a waste of space and won't be needed, so I made a plug out of a spare one. I pulled the guts and cut it. Need to get the end welded shut to make it oil tight.  Big and silly  Smaller. Going to make a small stainless cover plate that will bolt over it.  The stock S/C coolant line (the line that is cut is from my 4AGE motor) won't fit with the N/A intake manifold, so I am going to have to modify this line.  Cause it doesn't like the knock sensor   Going to get a little barb tacked on the end and just run flexible rubber.
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Mar 18, 2010 23:23
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More bead blasting. This guy goes here  And the little guy here  Dug out my 4AGZE cover cause the 4AGE is for suckas  Dunno what's up with these casting numbers. Collect the whole set?    Also, got some corrosion on the GZE cams. Not a problem - got two extra sets in the garage!  
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Mar 20, 2010 14:23
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You make it look so easy. Like someday I'll finish something I start. Did you ever think the internet would think you inspirational? edit: I also didn't think you should endure five updates in a row.
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Mar 20, 2010 14:31
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Barn Owl posted:You make it look so easy. Like someday I'll finish something I start. Did you ever think the internet would think you inspirational? There were a lot of *other* projects that I failed miserably at. Also, I got someone to weld up the three holes in the dizzy so it will be oil-tight for my dizz-plug use. Should be ready for the beginning of the week. Also, 85' cams have duration of 240' vs. the 232' of GZE and later GE cams. It's not much difference, but the GZE cams look pretty sketchy from sitting around.
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Mar 20, 2010 14:52
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8ender posted:I'm in the same province and I put out some struts and an axle for garbage day but no engine blocks this week. It put all my old suspension (four struts and shocks), brakes (2 rotors, calipers, and knuckles) out for trash day when I did the big SVT swap. Some guys had it gone within a couple hours. Sold on gold?    I kinda liked it after seeing on a previous car. The guy I bought my rusty N/A from just finished getting his sc back together (and was now getting rid of the N/A). He had his painted gold and I sorta liked em. Here's some pics of his S/C (gay wiper thing, ugh).      Oh back in the day. 
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Mar 22, 2010 12:49
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So why is the stock dizzy not good enough? What are you replacing it with and how will it be managed? Also watching your MR2 project makes me think it the perfect small car for small space project besides maybe a Miata. Although the engine bay looks a little scary.
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Mar 22, 2010 13:38
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I actually like the gold, especially on a white car  You make it look so easy
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Mar 22, 2010 13:46
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leica posted:So why is the stock dizzy not good enough? What are you replacing it with and how will it be managed? EDIS with Megasquirt - hopefully. With no forced induction on my 4AGZE, I should be looking at a mighty 80hp (8:1 cr 1.6L). leica posted:Also watching your MR2 project makes me think it the perfect small car for small space project besides maybe a Miata. Although the engine bay looks a little scary. The car is small, so storage is an issue if you need to bring wheels and tires to an event. The engine bay really isn't that bad. Instead of having a rad infront of the motor, you have a steel firewall. Coolant lines everywhere though.
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Mar 22, 2010 14:19
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I used to own one back in like '92 but never really worked on it and didn't own it long. I was doing lots of road trips and it was a horrible highway car. Lots of fun in teh twistiez though.
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Mar 22, 2010 16:18
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leica posted:I used to own one back in like '92 but never really worked on it and didn't own it long. I was doing lots of road trips and it was a horrible highway car. Lots of fun in teh twistiez though. The only issues I have had with my mr2's that make them bad for long drives is my old one was too loud(retarded exhaust setup, but who doesn't love supertraps?) and my current one doesn't have a radio, but that didn't stop me from buying it in San Jose and driving it back to Seattle. And yea the engine bay is pretty small, but anything major you have to do, you might as well drop the whole thing out the bottom of the car.
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Mar 22, 2010 16:39
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Watch out Geo Metro*, the N/A 4AGZE will be coming for you with all 58.1hp! *3cyl only. 4cyl would walk me.
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Mar 22, 2010 18:18
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Decided to pop off the cyl head to see how bad things looked.   Umm... I think this requires machining, no?     
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Mar 23, 2010 01:32
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Man, I used to have a white '89 just like the one posted, except mine had burgundy interior. My sister called it the "Dust Buster". It met its demise when I was sideswiped going north on 101. Stupid teal Volvo station wagon! Your engine build pics make me want to purchase another one. They pop up every now and then on craigslist. Alas, I'm in school and live in the Bay Area where garage space is at a premium.
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Mar 23, 2010 09:34
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Sock have I ever told you how much I hate you?
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Mar 23, 2010 14:38
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Sockington posted:Watch out Geo Metro*, the N/A 4AGZE will be coming for you with all 58.1hp! OK, so why do you want this motor again? Seems like an awful lot of trouble to go through for 58 HP. It will seem like a slug compared to your 323. Unless there's something I'm missing here.....
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Mar 23, 2010 14:54
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Sockington posted:Umm... I think this requires machining, no? Just the slightest of ridges. Heh.
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Mar 23, 2010 16:44
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leica posted:OK, so why do you want this motor again? Seems like an awful lot of trouble to go through for 58 HP. It will seem like a slug compared to your 323. Unless there's something I'm missing here..... Yea I'm assuming that something is rather wrong with that motor, seeing as a stock aw11 will put down around 80whp(original motor, I know a guy who has had his semi built na 4age put down ~120whp). From what Ive been told, and seen dyno sheets, my mr2 with a bt20v 4AGE should put down around 150whp.
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Mar 23, 2010 22:05
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The blue line is a 4AGZE with no boost. The red line is a 4AGZE with 12psi of s/c boost. The  is what is keeping a snail in NZ from being slapped on the hotside and cranking out more power than that redline.A machine shop can clean that up, right? It's not a scrap block, is it? 
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Mar 23, 2010 22:08
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Sockington posted:A machine shop can clean that up, right? It's not a scrap block, is it? Depends on how deep it is and how much those blocks can be over bored/how much material is left if it has already been over bored.
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Mar 23, 2010 22:12
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So I'm assuming it costs some big bucks to build a 4AGE for boost then.......It's just funny how anemic the Z is without boost, I would have never guessed it.
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Mar 23, 2010 23:28
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leica posted:So I'm assuming it costs some big bucks to build a 4AGE for boost then.......It's just funny how anemic the Z is without boost, I would have never guessed it. edit: yep, lower compression - the 4AGZE seems to have an 8.0:1 compression ratio, and the (super hot) 4AGE 20v has 10.5:1. edit edit: I should really read the links I post; later 4AGZEs went up to 8.9:1 (although that was in AE91s, not AW11s) Seat Safety Switch fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Mar 24, 2010 |
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Mar 24, 2010 00:18
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Seat Safety Switch posted:
10.5:1 for the silvertop 20v, but 11:1 for the blacktop 20v. I'm kinda disappointed with myself that I knew that off the top of my head.
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Mar 24, 2010 01:13
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MR2 Forums posted:There's nothing wrong with that block at all. You can use a green pad and a little oil to clean up the crud at the tops of the bores - no biggie at all. MR2 Forums posted:That crud is in the area of the bore that never sees any piston/ring contact. Its ready to go right now as long as it still turns over. As long as its apart I'd scrape out as much as I can to prevent any from coming loose later (if it is on there that thick it is). I'm still thinking the machine shop is the way to go, but I wouldn't mind taking a quick scrub to the top of the block to see how bad the gunk is.
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Mar 28, 2010 05:58
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MR2 Forums posted:That crud is in the area of the bore that never sees any piston/ring contact. Its ready to go right now as long as it still turns over. That's true, but only as long as you keep the top compression ring you have right now. It gets worn too, and if you put on new, un-worn rings they can hit the ridge where the worn ones didn't. Just be careful, you threw out all your spare blocks!
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Mar 28, 2010 06:06
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Sockington posted:I'm still thinking the machine shop is the way to go, but I wouldn't mind taking a quick scrub to the top of the block to see how bad the gunk is. Isn't that the same thing we were telling you in IRC?
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IOwnCalculus posted:Isn't that the same thing we were telling you in IRC? No, usually I get, IRC posted:OH LOOK, IT'S THE RUST LORD. WHAT DID YOUR MIDAS TOUCH INFECT TODAY??? EDIT: Raluek posted:That's true, but only as long as you keep the top compression ring you have right now. It gets worn too, and if you put on new, un-worn rings they can hit the ridge where the worn ones didn't. Just be careful, you threw out all your spare blocks! Yeah, they were the weaker earlier blocks. There are reinforcing ribs that run vertically down the block. The older 4AGEs had 3ribs (both of my other blocks were 'early' blocks), and the the newer & GZE blocks have 7ribs. Sockington fucked around with this message at 13:35 on Mar 28, 2010 |
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Mar 28, 2010 13:32
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I'll be off to trade school in middle of April, so I had to get some maintenance done on the Focus before I take off. New belt, tensioner, idler, and bolts are en route from Steve a Tousley Ford. I added a SVT airbox w/new MAF to the list of parts since ALL FOUR airbox bolts were stripped to gently caress from the P.O. and I have to use vice grips to hold the inserts in place while removing the screws. This gets fairly sketchy on the battery side of the airbox. And you know, that whole SVT thing 
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I wish more dealerships were as smart as Tousley. They must be making a ridiculous amount of money since they are on seemingly every automotive forum and basically everyone orders from them.
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Mar 29, 2010 19:38
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bore it and go .40 over like all the cool kids are doing 
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Mar 29, 2010 20:51
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Sockington posted:I'll be off to trade school in middle of April, so I had to get some maintenance done on the Focus before I take off. New belt, tensioner, idler, and bolts are en route from Steve a Tousley Ford. I added a SVT airbox w/new MAF to the list of parts since ALL FOUR airbox bolts were stripped to gently caress from the P.O. and I have to use vice grips to hold the inserts in place while removing the screws. This gets fairly sketchy on the battery side of the airbox. Steve at Tousley is an awesome guy! I'm happy that I'm only 12 miles away from them 
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I had no idea Tousley Ford was that cool. I am 11.7 miles from them by Google. Makes me wish I had a Ford. I also didn't realize there was any AI folks in town. And from the good side of town no less.
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Mar 30, 2010 04:10
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PeaceFrog posted:I had no idea Tousley Ford was that cool. I am 11.7 miles from them by Google. Makes me wish I had a Ford. I also didn't realize there was any AI folks in town. And from the good side of town no less. They offer 10% over cost on parts to Internet buyers on basically every Ford forum out there. They rule pretty hard core.
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Mar 30, 2010 19:45
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PeaceFrog posted:I had no idea Tousley Ford was that cool. I am 11.7 miles from them by Google. Makes me wish I had a Ford. I also didn't realize there was any AI folks in town. And from the good side of town no less. 7.2 miles, I forgot that moving to Shoreview brought me a little closer 
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Mar 30, 2010 20:13
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Painted the alternator mount, coolant inlet, and passenger side motor mount. And the other valve cover  Painted the behind cam cover thingy.  Also bead blasted my 323's rear suspension bit and the coolant pipe that runs from the above "coolant inlet". I added a couple little tacks around the pipe to keep the hose from popping off once clamped. 
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Mar 31, 2010 08:02
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Quit stalling and put that engine together 
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Mar 31, 2010 11:53
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8ender posted:Quit stalling and put that engine together Not until things are almost perfect. 
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Sockington posted:Not until things are almost perfect. If you were a true perfectionist you would get the head and block hot tanked
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