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TurboLuvah posted:That policy is so loving bullshit, I hope the FCC eventually does something about it. No it really isn't and they can't.
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Why would you get a phone like a Blackberry and NOT get a data plan? Get a regular phone then...
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Shnooks posted:Why would you get a phone like a Blackberry and NOT get a data plan? Some people think they can have the phone and use the data part on Wifi saving that $30 a month.
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They are killing me with these articles: http://crackberry.com/blackberry-bold-9650-images
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Apr 8, 2010 16:34
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At T-mobile you can buy a blackberry without the data plan, you just have to buy it at the full retail cost. Seems like a fair compromise to me.
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Radio Nowhere posted:Some people think they can have the phone and use the data part on Wifi saving that $30 a month. While some people do think that, I am not one of them, I understand that unfortunately you can't use WiFi for pretty much anything on a phone besides browsing the internet. big mean giraffe posted:No it really isn't and they can't. Requiring a consumer to purchase a data plan when buying certain phones isn't bullshit, and is a great idea? What if I want to use my Blackberry without a data plan? Explain. Shnooks posted:Why would you get a phone like a Blackberry and NOT get a data plan? Because I like how Blackberries are setup, they're very useful to organize everything, and regular phones loving blow and don't have qwerty keyboards. It's a matter of choice. If you don't want an optional feature, you're handcuffed to getting certain shitass phones. Edit: Every AT&T or T-Mobile store I've gone into has said that I needed a data plan with a Blackberry, even if I DID pay full retail for the phone. TurboLuvah fucked around with this message at 18:33 on Apr 9, 2010 |
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TurboLuvah posted:Edit: Every AT&T or T-Mobile store I've gone into has said that I needed a data plan with a Blackberry, even if I DID pay full retail for the phone. I just had an idea. What if you call AT&T and tell them you've gone temporarily blind, so you literally cannot use the data plan? I know deaf people can do this to get out of having a voice plan (and use data only) so why not give it a shot 
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TurboLuvah posted:While some people do think that, I am not one of them, I understand that unfortunately you can't use WiFi for pretty much anything on a phone besides browsing the internet. If you want a Blackberry on TMobile or AT&T without them knowing it, you need a Blackberry not registered in the system. Aka a blackberr tour or storm from Sprint/Verizon that have SIM Card slots. I do not think (but wouldn't guarantee) that they would pick up on that. Anyone else have thoughts on whether they would figure it out? I have an extra Blackberry Tour i've been looking to sell for $200, i have used it previously on TMo (albeit with data plan) so it def works. Feel free to PM me if you want it.
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Nevergirls posted:I just had an idea. What if you call AT&T and tell them you've gone temporarily blind, so you literally cannot use the data plan? I know deaf people can do this to get out of having a voice plan (and use data only) so why not give it a shot Kinda a slap in the face to blind people though...
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On one hand, the required data plan is actually to the benefit of the consumer. If I understand Blackberry's, they often pull data without the knowledge of the user. If a 16 year old gets a Blackberry because they're a cool, cheap smartphone, and doesn't realize that the little blinking icon in the top right corner means it's pulling data, and the family gets a $1,000 overage on their cell phone bill -- that's a headache that the cell phone company doesn't want to deal with and the family won't want to be stuck with. I think there was probably a time when you could get a smartphone without a data plan, but the way smartphones are developing (constantly streaming data in the background, drawing information from cloud-type services and heaping more and more data into the phone for more intense applications like Pandora and Youtube) -- I think those days have passed. That's not to say the cell phone companies don't want to stick you with as many monthly charges as possible -- I'm sure they aren't noble at heart. But it isn't a strictly draconian move -- there certainly is logic to it.
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Before I switched to Sprint, I used AT&T with a BB. I bought a used 8700c for cheap, wiped it, popped in my SIM card and that was that. Just used it as a somewhat internet capable phone without the BB features or plan.
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Duckman2008 posted:Kinda a slap in the face to blind people though... They should have thought of that before they went blind.
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My EnV2 had a great keyboard and worked fine, setup wise  It eventually stopped charging so I had to get a new phone.Edit: What I'm saying is there are QWERTY phones that don't suck and don't require a data plan.
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So I have a BlackBerry that I'm looking to unlock, and I'm really curious why there are tons of people online that can do it. Do they have some piece of software? Why isn't it more publicly available? I'm just really curious how creating the unlock code works.
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I've got a strange problem, figured this would be the place to ask. I've had my 8330 Curve for almost a year now (through US Cellular), and it has always picked up my email the instant it hits my online inbox. Cut to a few days ago, it stopped checking my email automatically. If I go to the options and hit "Reconcile Now" I then get the emails that it should have been picking up in the first place. This also happens when I end a call. Call ends, cue a minute of it vibrating as all the emails it didn't pick up are picked up. Any ideas?
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SuspectedIdiot posted:I've got a strange problem, figured this would be the place to ask. I've had my 8330 Curve for almost a year now (through US Cellular), and it has always picked up my email the instant it hits my online inbox. Cut to a few days ago, it stopped checking my email automatically. If I go to the options and hit "Reconcile Now" I then get the emails that it should have been picking up in the first place. Pull the battery, wait a minute, put it back in. If that doesn't fix it, call you provider, ask for a re-push of the service books. And if that doesn't fix it, well, there are other options, but they get longer and more involved. there is also the chance that us cellular is having some sort of issue on their end.
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EoRaptor posted:Pull the battery, wait a minute, put it back in. Can't believe I didn't try this beforehand. Email is now operating correctly, thanks!
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SuspectedIdiot posted:Can't believe I didn't try this beforehand. Email is now operating correctly, thanks!
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I got a question of sorts. I dropped my Bold 9000 last week and cracked the screen. I've already opened it to see which of the 3 screen models I need to order. However, does anybody know of a supplier in the US that sells Blackberry parts that aren't huge ripoffs and actually have inventory onhand so I don't have to wait 3 weeks to get it from Hong Kong?
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Duckman2008 posted:If you want a Blackberry on TMobile or AT&T without them knowing it, you need a Blackberry not registered in the system. Aka a blackberry tour or storm from Sprint/Verizon that have SIM Card slots. I do not think (but wouldn't guarantee) that they would pick up on that. Anyone else have thoughts on whether they would figure it out? I can verify this, as I'm using Pearl 8110 on T-Mobile without a data plan. In fact, since I didn't buy the pearl as part of the T-Mobile plan, I was able to set up the $10/mo "basic" data package with the pearl (had it for a month, then removed it). The Blackberry/PDA department at T-Mobile was quite efficient at getting me service books for it without changing my plan to the $25/mo "blackberry data" plan. On a side note, there's info about a new Blackberry Pearl 9100 everywhere, it seems. The rumors/facts/speculations: -Suretype keyboard, as like the original blackberry -WiFi and 3G -3.2 MP camera -256MB of app memory -OS 5 -"Pearl" trackball replaced with trackpad, like on the Bold 9700 -360 x 400 display So, if you were thinking about buying an old pearl, you might consider waiting until the new one launches, in case of a price drop. BiohazrD posted:So I have a BlackBerry that I'm looking to unlock, and I'm really curious why there are tons of people online that can do it. Do they have some piece of software? Why isn't it more publicly available? I'm just really curious how creating the unlock code works. Unlocking a blackberry requires an unlock code from your [old/current] carrier. The carrier can probably also give you instructions for unlocking it, or you can use the (probably identical) instructions here: http://www.blackberryfaq.com/index.php/How_do_I_unlock_my_BlackBerry%3F
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Currently the owner of a badly battered G1. How does the Bold 9700 compare, battery-wise, on T-Mobile? I'm kind of over touchscreens, and the G1's hardware keyboard just isn't working properly anymore. While I'm thinking about it, is there a service similar to how Google Maps is integrated into Android? Where you can use GPS to search for, say, "chinese food" near you, then select a result and call the phone number associated with the address.
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frobert blamble posted:Yes, Google has a suite of apps for BlackBerry that includes Google Maps. You can search locally and call right from the app. Awesome, that was one of my biggest concerns. Thanks.
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Chocolate Donuts posted:Currently the owner of a badly battered G1. How does the Bold 9700 compare, battery-wise, on T-Mobile? I'm kind of over touchscreens, and the G1's hardware keyboard just isn't working properly anymore. I can't speak to t-mobile, but my battery life on my 9700 is phenomenal. I streamed Sirius on it for over 5 hours the other day on wifi and still had 60% battery life. On average I can go 3 days of my normal usage between charges.
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Chocolate Donuts posted:Currently the owner of a badly battered G1. How does the Bold 9700 compare, battery-wise, on T-Mobile? I'm kind of over touchscreens, and the G1's hardware keyboard just isn't working properly anymore. If you like Android there's always the MyTouch slide coming out soon, with a KB and next-gen stuff. I switched from a BB a few months ago and can probably answer a lot of BB->Android comparison questions if you want to google talk at me at codito at gmail.
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This is such a stupid question I cant even believe I'm asking it, but here goes. The GF and I currently have a couple of iPhones on AT&T. We're sick of Apple's fuckery, AT&T's network shittiness, and paying $170/mo on a family plan. We're looking at setting up a Sprint EPRP plan for $109/mo and get ourselves a couple of Blackberry Tours. The EPRP plan apparently has BIS services included. However, I will likely want to integrate with my office's BES server to I can get all my Exchange mail/calendar items/etc. PREPARE FOR THE DUMB: Do I really need to pay the extra $20 for the BES plan, or is that something that you're supposed to purchase but it may/may not work without it? I ask this because at one point I had a Curve 8110 with AT&Tthat had only the BIS plan and was able to authenticate on my company's BES server with it. Unfortunately I had to return the phone due to some issues with it, but it seemed to work.
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Beef Tube posted:This is such a stupid question I cant even believe I'm asking it, but here goes. Actually, kind of a good question. If your previous one worked like that, try it with these two phones. Worst case you have to add it on later. You got 30 days if you don't like it at all. Also, Tour is great, but Sprint is gearing up to launch its replacement soon. If you NEED to switch now go for it, but hopefully better phones are in the pipeline. Also, def consider the HTC Evo. Android works fine with Exchange.
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Beef Tube posted:Do I really need to pay the extra $20 for the BES plan, or is that something that you're supposed to purchase but it may/may not work without it? I'm a BES administrator and I will tell you that every time I had a user tell me that his blackberry "works without the extra plan", it means they are getting their corporate email via BIS and are either not syncing calendar/contacts/tasks, or syncing over USB. Now it also might depend on when this happened... But I have yet to see a successful BES activation with a user that has the wrong plan.
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Beef Tube posted:This is such a stupid question I cant even believe I'm asking it, but here goes. First, you are a goddamned idiot to buy any sort of BlackBerry. Second, if you are that stupid in the first place to go with a BlackBerry, at least wait for the Bold 9650 which has double the RAM and is definitely ready for OS 6.0. Wait 2 more months and get the HTC Evo. RIM is just catching up to 2009 with OS 6.0, which will launch later this year with a WebKit browser so your browsing experience doesn't make you throw the phone against the wall and something that doesn't completely look out of 1995. The Evo does Exchange great through the HTC Sense UI interface on the phone. Plus you can have most of the cool iPhone apps without having to deal with an Apple product.
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Godzilla07 posted:First, you are a goddamned idiot to buy any sort of BlackBerry. Second, if you are that stupid in the first place to go with a BlackBerry, at least wait for the Bold 9650 which has double the RAM and is definitely ready for OS 6.0. Hey man, some people like Blackberry. I'll agree Android has better features, but some people just like Blackberry. At least it isn't WinMo.
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Duckman2008 posted:Hey man, some people like Blackberry. I'll agree Android has better features, but some people just like Blackberry. At least it isn't WinMo. Not when there's a nice and clear better option out there. You could buy a modern smartphone with the Evo, or an e-mail machine that can't do much else than e-mail like the Tour. I'm also bitter towards RIM. They left out RAM and a good camera on the 9000 to make you buy the 9700. They left out 3G to make you buy the 9700 if you had an 8900. Apple doesn't pull this poo poo off, Palm doesn't pull this poo poo off and HTC really hasn't. e: I may remind you that I'm using an EDGE smartphone in 2010. This means I have to listen to 96 kbps Pandora. I can't wait for the Evo.
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Duckman2008 posted:Hey man, some people like Blackberry. I'll agree Android has better features, but some people just like Blackberry. At least it isn't WinMo. It's not that I'm in love with the Blackberry -- its that Blackberry Messenger is a corporately defined communication tool that we use a lot. I am aware of how awesome the Hero (and the upcoming Evo) are, I just can't bear to carry around 2 phones because my work-provided lovely 8830 happens to get BBM. However, that's a good point about the upcoming bold, I may hold out.
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Beef Tube posted:It's not that I'm in love with the Blackberry -- its that Blackberry Messenger is a corporately defined communication tool that we use a lot. I am aware of how awesome the Hero (and the upcoming Evo) are, I just can't bear to carry around 2 phones because my work-provided lovely 8830 happens to get BBM. That sucks. In your case, definitely get the Bold 9650. The trackpad is definitely worth it and you're getting double the RAM that's in the current Tour (512 vs. 256.) It should be announced next week at WES and should be out on Sprint sometime in May or June.
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Godzilla07 posted:Not when there's a nice and clear better option out there. You could buy a modern smartphone with the Evo, or an e-mail machine that can't do much else than e-mail like the Tour. Yeah I hear ya, and can def understand Blackberry hating, just wanted to point that out. I feel if Blackberry screws up this new touchscreen phone with 6.0 they may start hitting a wall. Iy'll be gradual, but it'll happen. Unrelated note, but anyone on Sprint with an old Blackberry looking to upgrade, you can trade it in (regardless of condition) for $50 off a new Curve. Depending on the phone/condition you could possibly get more on craigslist, but still not terrible.
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I dunno, people seem to really love Blackberry. An Android phone is "too confusing," and only AT&T has the iPhone, not to mention the bizarre lovefest for BBM. It's a dumbphone with racing stripes, and that's good enough for people to justify the ridiculous extra prices.
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Captain Charisma posted:I dunno, people seem to really love Blackberry. An Android phone is "too confusing," and only AT&T has the iPhone, not to mention the bizarre lovefest for BBM. It's a dumbphone with racing stripes, and that's good enough for people to justify the ridiculous extra prices. Surprisingly I haven't met very many BlackBerry users. The ones I've met only have Pearls that don't have data plans. All the smartphone owners I know have iPhones but there's a few MT3G users out there.
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I live in what is basically Verizon Country. My campus and the people back home are basically this: 45% Blackberry 50% Messaging phone (env2, env touch, and voyager are huge) 5%: Smartphones (Droid, iPhone)
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Duckman2008 posted:Unrelated note, but anyone on Sprint with an old Blackberry looking to upgrade, you can trade it in (regardless of condition) for $50 off a new Curve. Depending on the phone/condition you could possibly get more on craigslist, but still not terrible. Apparently this applies to any BlackBerry from any carrier. I wonder if they'll take my old 8700 and give me $50 for an 8530. I paid $30 for that 8700 as a backup.
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Godzilla07 posted:Apparently this applies to any BlackBerry from any carrier. I wonder if they'll take my old 8700 and give me $50 for an 8530. I paid $30 for that 8700 as a backup. They will. You need to go to a corporate or preferred retailer, they are the only ones running the program (ex: i work at co-branded, we don't do it). If they say no to that BBerry for whatever reason i have some broken 7800 sprint blackberry sitting at my work i can mail you.
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