the yellow dart posted:

Cellphones are actually used extensively in both Iraq and Afghanistan as IED triggers mostly because of their ubiquitous nature in both countries and ease of use in IEDs.

the yellow dart posted:

Cellphones are actually used extensively in both Iraq and Afghanistan as IED triggers mostly because of their ubiquitous nature in both countries and ease of use in IEDs. While you are right about the nature of cellphones, they are still used a lot in both conflicts despite countermeasures deployed against both RF and cellphone detonated IEDs.

Here is a decent article about some of the countermeasures employed:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/news/2005/050710-ied-jammers.htm

the yellow dart posted:

Cellphones are actually used extensively in both Iraq and Afghanistan as IED triggers mostly because of their ubiquitous nature in both countries and ease of use in IEDs. While you are right about the nature of cellphones, they are still used a lot in both conflicts despite countermeasures deployed against both RF and cellphone detonated IEDs.

Here is a decent article about some of the countermeasures employed:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/news/2005/050710-ied-jammers.htm

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Interesting, thanks. Of course the next step is to design a trigger that goes off when it detects one of these jammers...

Nenonen posted:

This wouldn't be very effective because the jammers work at a range which is probably not predictable by anyone, so in all likelihood it would trigger prematurely.

Maybe a modern phone's accelerometer could be used for making a shake trigger, but a heavy armoured column will make the road shake a long way off so it would need a double activation. Maybe using the camera to detect movement.

goddamnedtwisto posted:

I think we're probably overthinking it just a tad, of course - it's so much easier to just have someone overlooking the area trigger the explsives remotely by whatever means than to get into that.

I suppose the actual next step is likely a step backwards from electronic detonators altogether and back to wires (electic or trip) - unjammable, but of course much harder to hide.

Nenonen posted:

It would be so easy to troll them.

"My neighbour's son-in-law is currently at training with his National Guards unit, and an anti-terrorism expert Jack Bauer told them that Arabic speaking men wearing checkered scarves on their head were going from service station to another and buying ALL THE GASOLINE THEY COULD GET in Houston, Texas. According to CIA they send it via Canada to Iraq where the terrorists turn them into IED's! Pass this information on to everyone you know!"

quote:

Subject: Petition to President Obama

It is already impossible to live on Social Security alone. If the government gives benefits to 'illegal' aliens who have never contributed, where does that leave those of us who have paid into Social Security all our working lives?

As stated below, the Senate voted this week to allow 'illegal' aliens access to Social Security benefits. Attached is an opportunity to sign a petition that requires citizenship for eligibility to that social service.

Instructions are below. If you don't forward the petition and just stop it, we will lose all these names.

If you do not want to sign it, please just forward it to everyone you know.

Thank you!

To add your name, click on 'forward'. Address it to all of your email correspondents, add your name to the list and send it on.

When the petition hits 1,000, send it to comment@whitehouse.gov

PETITION for President Obama:

Dear Mr. President:

We, the undersigned, protest the bill that the Senate voted on recently which would allow illegal aliens to access our Social Security. We demand that you and all Congressional representatives require citizenship as a pre-requisite for social services in the United States.

We further demand that there not be any amnesty given to illegals, NO free services, no funding, no payments to and for illegal immigrants.

We are fed up with the lack of action about this matter and are tired of paying for services to illegals.

RagnarokAngel posted:

Obvious but
A.Illegal aliens arent up to vote to access social security
B.Haha internet petition

Stay crazy GOP.

Deuce posted:

I mean, protesting a gross misunderstanding or misrepresentation of a real event is one thing, but protesting something that never actually happened just makes my mind spin in circles.

RagnarokAngel posted:

Obvious but
A.Illegal aliens arent up to vote to access social security
B.Haha internet petition

Stay crazy GOP.

quote:

So where are all the "Save the Gulf" concerts? Where are the TV Benefits
with celebrities and musicians giving heart felt speeches for the poor
fisherman, wildlife ,beaches, loss of income and sabotaged gulf
economy?I find it rather strange how these people (including
...our...own...government) are so quick to help Haiti and other countries
but sit on their @ss for this one. Just the facts. Post if you agree

the posted:

Deadliest earthquake in the history of the poorest island in the world, killing 230,000, causing 300,000 injuries and making over a million homeless, completely destabilizing the country for many years to come?

Deadliest natural disaster in the history of the richest country in the world, causing a dozen deaths, an ecological crisis, and increasing the price of shrimp?

SAME. DIFFERENCE.

Also, I think they forgot Lenny Kravitz's benefit concert that already happened.

Naet posted:

There was a really bad storm in Ohio last week that devastated the area. You know what we're doing? We're gathering a bunch of local people and going to help out. I don't see any Haitians here offering their support. I'm just telling the truth. Forward this on if you agree with the truth.

RagnarokAngel posted:

I'm still trying to make sense of this but it sure seems to fit this thread!

Duck_King posted:

There are absolutely no burka wearing muslims in this town (they'd be loving suicidal to, it's hot here)

yatagan posted:

Just out of curiosity, how would you describe the environments in which the burqa is most prominent today?

the posted:

Deadliest earthquake in the history of the poorest island in the world, killing 230,000, causing 300,000 injuries and making over a million homeless, completely destabilizing the country for many years to come?

Deadliest natural disaster in the history of the richest country in the world, causing a dozen deaths, an ecological crisis, and increasing the price of shrimp?

SAME. DIFFERENCE.

Also, I think they forgot Lenny Kravitz's benefit concert that already happened.

Annoying Friend posted:

Dr. Seuss' Take on Obama

I do not like this Uncle Sam, I do not like his health care scam.
I do not like these dirty crooks, or how they lie and cook the books.
I do not like when Congress steals,
I do not like their secret deals.
I do not like this speaker Nan ,
I do not like this 'YES WE CAN'.
I do not like this spending spree,
I'm smart, I know that nothing's free,
I do not like your smug replies, when I complain about your lies.
I do not like this kind of hope.
I do not like it. nope, nope, nope!

Intel&Sebastian posted:

I don't know where else to put this but:

http://i.imgur.com/5cPMh.jpg

What the gently caress CNN?

RagnarokAngel posted:

Haha I thought that was a photoshop.

Edit: I hate to turn this into a "D&Dest pics you got" thread but this has been going around:




Ah conservative "humor".

quote:

For those that don't know about history ... Here is a condensed version:

Humans originally existed as members of small bands of nomadic
hunters/gatherers. They lived on deer in the mountains during the summer and
would go to the coast and live on fish and lobster in the winter.

The two most important events in all of history were the invention of beer
and the invention of the wheel. The wheel was invented to get man to the
beer. These were the foundation of modern civilization and together were the
catalyst for the splitting of humanity into two distinct subgroups:

1 . Liberals, and
2. Conservatives.

Once beer was discovered, it required grain and that was the beginning of
agriculture. Neither the glass bottle nor aluminum can were invented yet, so
while our early humans were sitting around waiting for them to be invented,
they just stayed close to the brewery. That's how villages were formed.

Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to BBQ at night while
they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is known as the
Conservative movement...

Other men who were weaker and less skilled at hunting learned to live off
the conservatives by showing up for the nightly BBQ's and doing the sewing,
fetching, and hair dressing. This was the beginning of the Liberal movement.


Some of these liberal men eventually evolved into women. They became known
as girlie-men. Some noteworthy liberal achievements include the
domestication of cats, the invention of group therapy, group hugs, and the
concept of Democratic voting to decide how to divide the meat and beer that
conservatives provided.

Over the years conservatives came to be symbolized by the largest, most
powerful land animal on earth, the elephant. Liberals are symbolized by the
jackass for obvious reasons.

Modern liberals like imported beer (with lime added), but most prefer white
wine or imported bottled water. They eat raw fish but like their beef well
done. Sushi, tofu, and French food are standard liberal fare.. Another
interesting evolutionary side note: most of their women have higher
testosterone levels than their men. Most social workers, personal injury
attorneys, journalists, dreamers in Hollywood and group therapists are
liberals. Liberals invented the designated hitter rule because it wasn't
fair to make the pitcher also bat.

Conservatives drink domestic beer, mostly Bud or Coors. They eat red meat
and still provide for their women. Conservatives are big game hunters, rodeo
cowboys, lumberjacks, construction workers, firemen, medical doctors, police
officers, engineers, corporate executives, athletes, members of the
military, airline pilots and generally anyone who works productively.
Conservatives who own companies hire other conservatives who want to work
for a living.

Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to govern the producers and
decide what to do with the production. Liberals believe Europeans are more
enlightened than Americans. That is why most of the liberals remained in
Europe when conservatives were coming to America . They crept in after the
Wild West was tamed and created a business of trying to get more for
nothing.

Here ends today's lesson in world history:

It should be noted that a Liberal may have a momentary urge to angrily
respond to the above before forwarding it.

A Conservative will simply laugh and be so convinced of the absolute truth
of this history that it will be forwarded immediately to other true
believers and to more liberals just to piss them off.

And there you have it.Let your next action reveal your true self, I'm going
to have another beer.

Vonnegut Asterisk posted:

God damnit Dad.


I started writing a lengthy response, but I eventually went the petty route.

"So since you've been unemployed for a year, does that make you a liberal?"

quote:

Some of these liberal men eventually evolved into women.

RagnarokAngel posted:

Vonnegut Asterisk posted:

Obvious attempt to anger (liberal) people.

Logan 5 posted:

What actually does piss me off to no end is the comment about imported beer. Yeah, gently caress with history all you want conservatives, but don't you loving dare attack good beer. Most of it isn't even "imported". And the poo poo with lime and oranges added to the glass was made up by Blue Moon, owned by tada, Molson Coors. FYI Bud and Coors, and all the macros, aren't even all American-owned companies. Who add loving rice and corn to beer. Crafts and microbrewers are also great entrepreneurial small businesses. So what the gently caress conservatives, what the gently caress.

Logan 5 posted:

One of the (very peripheral) problems I have with this: why the gently caress is the "Attention illegal immigrants" in quotes?

Vonnegut Asterisk's dad posted:

A Conservative will simply laugh and be so convinced of the absolute truth
of this history that it will be forwarded immediately to other true
believers and to more liberals just to piss them off.

quote:

They eat raw fish but like their beef well done.

Vonnegut Asterisk posted:

God damnit Dad.

The Ugly Duchess posted:

Preferably, the food would be provided by gay black disabled Native Americans, but you can't be too picky about your food.

quote:

New Element Discovered!

The densest element in the known Universe has been found!

Pelosium:

A major research institution has just announced the discovery of the densest element yet known to science. The new element has been named Pelosium. Pelosium has one neutron, 12 assistant neutrons, 75 deputy neutrons, and 224 assistant deputy neutrons, giving it an atomic mass of 311.

These particles are held together by dark forces called morons, which are surrounded by vast quantities of lepton-like particles called peons. The symbol of Pelosium is PU.

Pelosium's mass actually increases over time, as morons randomly interact with various elements in the atmosphere and become assistant deputy neutrons within the Pelosium molecule, leading to the formation of isodopes.

This characteristic of moron-promotion leads some scientists to believe that Pelosium is formed whenever morons reach a certain quantity in concentration. This hypothetical quantity is referred to as Critical Morass.

When catalyzed with money, Pelosium activates CNNadnausium, an element that radiates orders of magnitude more energy, albeit as incoherent noise, since it has half as many peons but twice as many morons as Pelosium.

Ruckby posted:

Haha, I'm a chemist so the one part I got really mad about was the "PU" designation since the second letter is never capitalized and Pu is already plutonium.